Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Dec 18, 2016 at 6:22 AM Post #14,552 of 63,915
I was finally able to test the earphones that I got this week from China: KZ ATR, KZ ED7mini, Tennmak Pro. Some initial impressions without tip rolling, with the same small sized tips that come with every other earphone out of my phone Redmi 1s.

KZ ATR: These are amazing! Out of the three, they feel like they have the most prominent subbass, with a nice rumble. The mids are smooth and vocals feel beautiful. The mids do not seem to be recessed while the highs are present but definitely not forward. Details are there, soundstage is great. These definitely feel like an upgrade over ATE which I haven't heard in a long while. I'll have to compare against the ate with the same tips, but I really really like these with the stock tips. Waiting for the starline tips to arrive for more comfort hopefully before the end of the month.

Tennmak Pro: These are great too. They are very comfortable, even more than my Vivo Xe800. They also have a nice subbass, but the mids aren't as smooth. They have slightly forward highs than ATR. The detailing is much better, soundstage is good. Overall worth the money, and I hope tip rolling with wide bore tips will open them up a bit more and smoothen the mids.

KZ ED7mini: I'm feeling slightly disappointed, even though they are not bad. Someone earlier had said that they sound like the ATE, warm with more quantity of bass, and since I don't have bassy earphones I gave this a go. But these are definitely not as bassy as ATR or ATE are. I'll have to roll tips to open them up as they feel closed and congested at the moment, but maybe that's because the earlier two feel so open. Unfortunately they have smaller nozzle so a lot of my 'good' tips won't work on them. Reminds me a bit of the ED3c but I loved those.
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I bought these three in hope of getting a bassy, warm and unfatiguing earphone that I can listen to casually for fun. I had low expectation for ATR and was expecting Tennmak to fill that up but the opposite happened.
I must remind these are just the initial impression, so if anybody's going to take me seriously take me with a grain of salt. Also to note is the fact that I miss my hds3 that nobody likes here.
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Will also receive ZST by the end of the year hopefully. And will probably buy no earphone after that! I hope so!
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Dec 18, 2016 at 7:45 AM Post #14,553 of 63,915
Completely off-topic, but I'd like to know what a Kenzo is.


Its the Xiaomi Redmi Note 3 Pro. Its Codename is Kenzo.

kenzo is xiaomi redmi note 3 or something. those wannabe nerds seems to fond of calling their phone by the code name. it's feels really weird to call my mi4i "Ferrari"


That's a bit condescending and not exactly the truth. Often times there are different variants of a phone, and you need to use the Codename or model number to differentiate. Like I do believe there's a Redmi Note 3 Pro called Kate as well.
 
Dec 18, 2016 at 9:08 AM Post #14,556 of 63,915
I got the Senzer H1 today, really good for the money. Plenty of bass with detailed highs.
 
I haven't heard the Cello so I can't say they're the same earphone but the sound is close to the description others have used about the Cello. Not had the problem with the eartips but I did notice a small hole on the nozzle, could this be the issue that others are having?
 
Dec 18, 2016 at 10:35 AM Post #14,557 of 63,915
I got the Senzer H1 today, really good for the money. Plenty of bass with detailed highs.

I haven't heard the Cello so I can't say they're the same earphone but the sound is close to the description others have used about the Cello. Not had the problem with the eartips but I did notice a small hole on the nozzle, could this be the issue that others are having?


There's one one the cellos too and if it's covered you get driver flex. My senzers are on the way and I'm confident they're at least the same housing; that's obvious. Not sure about internals and the wire looks different, plus you get a case with the cellos but not sure that justifies the price difference unless the drivers are different.
 
Dec 18, 2016 at 11:17 AM Post #14,559 of 63,915
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-KZ-Cable-0-75mm-2-Pin-Upgraded-Plated-Silver-Cable-2-PIN-Upgrade-Cable-Ues/32731735090.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.aOhqmX&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10065_10068_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10099_10078_10079_427_10073_10103_10102_10096_10052_10050_10051-10052,searchweb201603_1&btsid=59c75798-ad1b-4efa-a73f-164d4c6ed6ae

so this silver cable cannot fit into KZ ZST ??
 
but this says is for KZ ZST 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-ZST-Earphone-Cable-1-2M-Plated-Silver-Earphone-Cable-0-75MM-2-pin-DIY-Upgrade/32758017891.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.9.TtQ9pj&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10065_10068_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10099_10078_10079_427_10073_10103_10102_10096_10052_10050_10051,searchweb201603_1&btsid=c63ade58-ac46-47ab-93ef-d40608487e8f
 
I'm confuse  
 
Dec 18, 2016 at 11:23 AM Post #14,560 of 63,915
  https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-KZ-Cable-0-75mm-2-Pin-Upgraded-Plated-Silver-Cable-2-PIN-Upgrade-Cable-Ues/32731735090.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.aOhqmX&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10065_10068_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10099_10078_10079_427_10073_10103_10102_10096_10052_10050_10051-10052,searchweb201603_1&btsid=59c75798-ad1b-4efa-a73f-164d4c6ed6ae

so this silver cable cannot fit into KZ ZST ??
 
but this says is for KZ ZST 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-ZST-Earphone-Cable-1-2M-Plated-Silver-Earphone-Cable-0-75MM-2-pin-DIY-Upgrade/32758017891.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.9.TtQ9pj&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_3_10065_10068_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10060_10061_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10099_10078_10079_427_10073_10103_10102_10096_10052_10050_10051,searchweb201603_1&btsid=c63ade58-ac46-47ab-93ef-d40608487e8f
 
I'm confuse  

 
It can technically fit, but it will be quite loose and not really useable.  This wire with straight housing is only for the ZS3.
The ZST wire housing is an angled one.
 
Dec 18, 2016 at 12:38 PM Post #14,563 of 63,915
I received the ATEs this week. Is there any way to tell which version these are? Thanks!

If You can see through the housings, try to look if driver shells are red or blue. If they are red, and lower nozzle part has tiny vent holes, then they are probably latest 5th gen ATE.
And if You look at my older post, then seems You have same coded latest ATE as I do: http://www.head-fi.org/t/698148/knowledge-zenith-kz-impressions-thread/13920#post_13053179
 
Dec 18, 2016 at 12:50 PM Post #14,565 of 63,915
@CoiL hey coil what is your current kz do use right now and what is your favorite kz.

Check my profile. But do note that my listing is purely subjective and only with my gear, music and sound preferences.
But to make it easy, in stock unmodified confition - ATE 5th gen comes first due to large airy spacious soundstage and very closely after that ATR. In modified confition - ATE FF-mod (2nd gen) followed by ATR TH-mod.
I haven`t modded my 5th gen ATE yet cuz I have other IEM`s coming in and other development going on...
 

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