[TwinACStacks]

  What are You talking about?

They are ultra-comfortable, perfect size and lightest IEM I`ve ever had! 
 

Spoiler: Warning: KZ hardcore Pr0n!

 

 

 
Btw, I tested many things and so far only way to boost littlebit ANV sub-bass is to cover breathing holes on black plastic... BUT... it can cause damage to drivers when inserting tips into ears because air doesn`t escape from chamber and membrane gets "squeezed" backwards. If done gently then ok but I already got one "click" and right channel sounded weird. Had to do some same moves that membrane got back to its own shape again. I have some other ideas how to get that little sub-bass boost but need to experiment more.
I will probably also do nozzle-change mod (for using ED9 nozzles) because for my ears ANV nozzle is littlebit short.
Fun fun fun...

 

You were trying to Bait me. But alas..... You forgot I am a Master Baiter.

 
Beautiful job Coil. What kind of wood is that and how do they sound in comparison with the original?
 

TWIN

 

[chavez]

   
I personally like them more, but I'll definitely be in the minority here. They're pretty old and build quality isn't nearly as good as, well, pretty much anything else KZ offers, lol. They still offer up quality sound though; quick yet deep bass (more than ATE, but not as much as ED9 [gold]), warm and forward mids (similar to ATE), great soundstage, detailed treble (it lacks that sparkle the ED9 [gold or brass] has, and is more like ATE). They're right up there with the ANV as my fav KZ iems. 
 
I more posted that link for those who mentioned they wanted a pair much, much earlier in the thread, in case they haven't bought them and were still interested. More of a "complete the collection" kinda thing.

I dont know which one to get now,ED9,ATE or Micro ring.

 

[B9Scrambler]

  I dont know which one to get now,ED9,ATE or Micro ring.

 
Go with the ED9. It really is a great iem. Cheaper too. 

 

[chavez]

  Probably ED9. 

I'm also scared because of the recent QC issues ,they take a month to arive.And I dont have a card,my friend has to buy them for me.

 

[TwinACStacks]

Now onto Twin's TWINS: I just received my 2nd Pair of ATEs, this time in Clear, today. So I took an hour or so to directly compare Both. Flashback to 2 weeks ago: I got the silvers listened to them and liked them immediately, rolled tips, and did a mod similar to Coil's by venting the Backs with some 3/32 and 1/16 Holes. I also removed the copper covers completely from the drivers, then sealed them back up permanently with Super Glue. I tried them with the backs off first then on several times and thought that I heard a difference so I went with the Mod.
 
Today, I A/B'd them directly and was quite surprised by the results. 1. I really can hear very little if any difference between modded and un-modded and MUCH to my surprise, 2.  (as you may have guessed I'm a big proponent of Burn-in), I found that the Older pair with 180+ hours on them and the New ones OTB sound IDENTICAL. In THIS case, I am wrong concerning burn in. It does nothing to the ATEs.
 
Believe me I have heard changes occuring from use in many 'Phones. Just not these. unfortunately I'm a creature of habit and I just KNOW that I won't be happy with the new pair until I put 200 Hours on them anyways.
 
I'm off to the Races now boyeeee....
 

TWIN

 

[TwinACStacks]

Scrambler, Have you seen these Micro Rings? they are GK branded same as the ANV:
 
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-apparatus-of-5-8-MM-acme-micro-dynamic-in-ear-headphones-high-resolution-penetrating/1948329841.html
 

TWIN

 

[B9Scrambler]

Scrambler, Have you seen these Micro Rings? they are GK branded same as the ANV:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-apparatus-of-5-8-MM-acme-micro-dynamic-in-ear-headphones-high-resolution-penetrating/1948329841.html

TWIN

The pics of the black ones are the original Micro Ring, from what I've gathered. I don't think they actually sell those any more. You would probably get the black version of the silver ones in the last pic.

 

[RedTwilight]

What are You talking about?:blink: They are ultra-comfortable, perfect size and lightest IEM I`ve ever had! 

Spoiler: Warning: KZ hardcore Pr0n!

 

Btw, I tested many things and so far only way to boost littlebit ANV sub-bass is to cover breathing holes on black plastic... BUT... it can cause damage to drivers when inserting tips into ears because air doesn`t escape from chamber and membrane gets "squeezed" backwards. If done gently then ok but I already got one "click" and right channel sounded weird. Had to do some same moves that membrane got back to its own shape again. I have some other ideas how to get that little sub-bass boost but need to experiment more.
I will probably also do nozzle-change mod (for using ED9 nozzles) because for my ears ANV nozzle is littlebit short.
Fun fun fun...  

Wow CoiL those those look AMAZING!! How'd you do it? Gah all this ANV talk..

You were trying to Bait me. But alas..... You forgot I am a Master Baiter. :tongue_smile:

Beautiful job Coil. What kind of wood is that and how do they sound in comparison with the original?

TWIN

Seems like he's mastered baiting you hurhur.

 

[CoiL]

 
Beautiful job Coil. What kind of wood is that and how do they sound in comparison with the original?

Mahogany. Compared to original, I think same. Maybe just a fraction more "open" due to the hole on wood backplates (just for experimenting). Soundstage/imaging seems also littlebit better but more likely it is just my psychoacoustic memory playing trick. Anyway, soundstage/imaging is very good on ANV.
This is probably not yet finished design. If only ANV didn`t have little lack of sub-bass - it would be probably best KZ IEM for my taste, details and neutrality/balance through all spectrum is great. Objectively, I would still rate ANV best KZ regarding all SQ aspects. Subjectively, ED9 (brass+foam) still my personal favourite... till I wood-mod my ATE 

 

  they are GK branded same as the ANV:
 
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-apparatus-of-5-8-MM-acme-micro-dynamic-in-ear-headphones-high-resolution-penetrating/1948329841.html

Seems like they have upgraded old micro-ring but driver is same, according to their "gibberish" description. Hmmm... maybe going to try out some day but not atm.
 
I want my ATE ! Now -.- ! I`m hoping after modding it will be my "final" KZ IEM.

 

[Suneth]

  For those who rare few that have been itching to get the Micro Ring, this is the lowest price I've seen them at for a while now; 16 USD. Seller has good feedback so it might be worth the pick up.

 
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/KZ-apparatus-of-5-8-MM-acme-micro-ring-in-ear-headphones-high-resolution-penetrating-voice/2033397274.html?spm=2114.32010308.4.2.elsa0a

May i ask what is the purpose of the micro ring?

 

[CoiL]

Those who wish to try, KZ ANV is selling for 9$ atm: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/100-Original-KZ-ANV-Grade-Fever-Linear-Equalizer-Ear-Earphones-Monitor-Headphones-Perfect-Sound-Dynamic-Structure/32317811425.html

 

[Ruben123]

So it seems the filter was the problem, my ED9s now shine. They sound relatively dark with brass filters, just a tad more bassy than Havi B3 that makes Mozart's piano concertos really exciting (have a listen to the 20th!!!!!!!!). Still some peaks and dips in the frequency range but it's so much better than with the holes in the filters open, or whatever it caused them to sound bad.
 
Value for money these are much better than Havis, almost same build quality, maybe 95% of its sound quality, 1/8th the price (bought ED9 for $6, Havi for $48).
 
Yes I like them now. Tad too few lower mids, tad too much upper mids... but all just tads. Now reading about ANV, micro ring, ANV... doesnt really make me buy them. By trying them one could also buy a more expensive one instead, so I keep it with ED9 for now.

 

[CoiL]

They sound relatively dark with brass filters

I think You are misusing audio describing terms.
 

Dark - A tonal balance that tilts downwards with increasing frequency. Opposite of bright. Weak high frequencies.

http://www.head-fi.org/t/220770/describing-sound-a-glossary

 

[B9Scrambler]

May i ask what is the purpose of the micro ring?

Well....most people would probably use it for listening to music, podcasts or other like programs. It could also be used as a prop microphone for an action figure.

 

[Ruben123]

  I think You are misusing audio describing terms.
 
http://www.head-fi.org/t/220770/describing-sound-a-glossary

My bad That's why I said relatively, they are darker than flat/neutral, but not bright or dark at all.