[Wiljen]

Had a question for folks with KZ headphones - they usually have 0.75mm diameter 2-pin cables, right? Has anyone tried using 0.78mm cables? I've noticed some companies advertising their 0.78mm cables as being compatible, and I was wondering if that was true and if there were any downsides... I created a thread here to discuss:

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/2-pin-0-78mm-vs-0-75mm-cables.898504/

the big downside is once you force a .78 pin connector into a .75 pin socket, you cannot go back to .75 pin models again as they will simply fall off. Best to stick with the size it is designed for as going the opposite route invites trouble.

 

[SybilLance]

I tried even with a Zishan DSD which is quite powerful, and an Onkyo too...
Let’s see, maybe with some more burning in.

Yeah, I think that should be enough power to hear a difference in the AS06.
Maybe burning-in? I ran mine for about 100 hours.
I hope yours change your mind about it, like mine did.

You know, eartips that give that perfect seal might make more of a difference with regard to bringing out that bass fullness. Have you tried wide-bore ball foam tips? Or soft silicone medium-to-wide bore ones? I know it's counter-intuitive because we have this general rule of thumb that small-bore tips enhance bass, but please try. You won't lose anything if you do, and you might be surprised. And discover why I consider the AS06 as a specialist.

 

[neo_styles]

Had a question for folks with KZ headphones - they usually have 0.75mm diameter 2-pin cables, right? Has anyone tried using 0.78mm cables? I've noticed some companies advertising their 0.78mm cables as being compatible, and I was wondering if that was true and if there were any downsides... I created a thread here to discuss:

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/2-pin-0-78mm-vs-0-75mm-cables.898504/

I've done both 0.75 and 0.78. The 0.78 seems to be a looser fit in some pairs, tighter in others. It's really hit-or-miss. I'd suggest just doing 0.75 to be safe.

 

[purplesun]

You know, eartips that give that perfect seal might make more of a difference with regard to bringing out that bass fullness.

That's true. A good/bad pressure seal can make or break the SQ of any IEM.
Tight-fitting T400 Complys on mine; passes the "baby crying on a long-flight" test!

 

[hakuzen]

C16 arrive next week !

I love the zs7
Is very one of my best I'm
My review


You can to see a clip to 1min. I'm enjoying to do this

this is funny.
you didn't like my zs7 measurements post, and commented that zs6 vs zs7 didn't match your sound perception.
and now you use my graph in your youtube video review, without mentioning the source nor adding a grateful note in the description?
that says a lot about your ethic and kindness..

 

[Zerohour88]

Had a question for folks with KZ headphones - they usually have 0.75mm diameter 2-pin cables, right? Has anyone tried using 0.78mm cables? I've noticed some companies advertising their 0.78mm cables as being compatible, and I was wondering if that was true and if there were any downsides... I created a thread here to discuss:

https://www.head-fi.org/threads/2-pin-0-78mm-vs-0-75mm-cables.898504/

yup, as stated by others, jamming a 0.78 pin into 0.75 holes will loosen it. Same problem a few qdc owners faced (since most CIEMs are 2 pins 0.78 but qdc uses 0.75)

also, don't need to make a separate thread for anything related to KZ, you can ask away here.

 

[Aparker2005]

Really looking forward to any c16 reviews. My zs10 and as 10 are great, but I'm intrigued.

 

[TechnoidFR]

this is funny.
you didn't like my zs7 measurements post, and commented that zs6 vs zs7 didn't match your sound perception.
and now you use my graph in your youtube video review, without mentioning the source nor adding a grateful note in the description?
that says a lot about your ethic and kindness..

I didn't say that I don't like. Just say that is totally different in my ears in term of perception. I maintain that and say in the review.

Sorry for not mentioning... It was hard week and not intentional... Just added with your pseudo and link of the post... ( and it would be really stupid to do it intentionally and post it here )
Sorry and corrected...

Another thing, be sure that I like this forum. I décidés tout participate because it's interesting to share ours opinions. I am not very good at English but I try anyway.

when i could buy the material to make the measurements and it will be with pleasure that i will share them. unfortunately I'm not really rich so it's not for now and I am dependent on you. I made the move for Otto Motor but here I was just drowned by my work and YouTube.

 

[hakuzen]

I didn't say that I don't like. Just say that is totally different in my ears in term of perception. I maintain that and say in the review.

Sorry for not mentioning... It was hard week and not intentional... Just added with your pseudo and link of the post... ( and it would be really stupid to do it intentionally and post it here )
Sorry and corrected...

Another thing, be sure that I like this forum. I décidés tout participate because it's interesting to share ours opinions. I am not very good at English but I try anyway.

when i could buy the material to make the measurements and it will be with pleasure that i will share them. unfortunately I'm not really rich so it's not for now and I am dependent on you. I made the move for Otto Motor but here I was just drowned by my work and YouTube.

no problem.
thanks for adding the nick and link.
not rich here either, invested on measurement gear because was tired of the lack of info of most audio stuff.

 

[TechnoidFR]

no problem.
thanks for adding the nick and link.
not rich here either, invested on measurement gear because was tired of the lack of info of most audio stuff.

I will ask / warn next time. And I would do things correctly. Anyway my test often been reviewed and better framed text level. It will go into account too

I understand. But I'm very very very limited . I saw one model for 200$ but it too high for me... I understand, don't have any graph for CCA C10. it could help me to see the differences, to better interpret, to compare, to learn and especially to smooth the results with the same device and even settings.

 

[hakuzen]

I will ask / warn next time. And I would do things correctly. Anyway my test often been reviewed and better framed text level. It will go into account too

I understand. But I'm very very very limited . I saw one model for 200$ but it too high for me... I understand, don't have any graph for CCA C10. it could help me to see the differences, to better interpret, to compare, to learn and especially to smooth the results with the same device and even settings.

i'll measure c10 when they arrive.

i don't mind to share all the info, this is my main purpose. love internet info explosion. but we have to keep minimal ethic rules, specially if we pretend to earn cash via advertisement or whatever, at youtube or at any web.
imagine i need to earn money urgently, because i've been unemployed for 10 years. i'd feel ripped off when others get benefits using my work and i get nothing.

 

[TechnoidFR]

i'll measure c10 when they arrive.

i don't mind to share all the info, this is my main purpose. love internet info explosion. but we have to keep minimal ethic rules, specially if we pretend to earn cash via advertisement or whatever, at youtube or at any web.
imagine i need to earn money urgently, because i've been unemployed for 10 years. i'd feel ripped off when others get benefits using my work and i get nothing.

I agree, just I had to manage the launch of the Honor V20 + editing (much longer than I did before) + training at my job. It's really a fault of inattention. It's really not my style.

 

[TechnoidFR]

Back on the zs7

I share one of the reason why I love them more than other in this moment ( Google translate, but normally it must be correct )

Hold for example for the ZS7 a music that I particularly like with them

Koan Atahensic: I use a player that allows a repeat ab so runs loop from 3:32 to 5:27
It's very chill and airy (a big part of the album is cool by the way)

The difference with M6 or C10 is its side a little more felted but more percussive, it ended me in love with them

Already the main instrument is very alive, each note, each support is quite alive, percussive while having an air side present. Already it gives him a lot of life, you do not have this impact with others
The second instrument more discreet and acute means perfectly and lighter
The pad arrives and puts an aerial key to support the main instrument

Then the sub bass arrives. With the ZS7 they have a presence while being very controlled, soft. It is "down" and supports the air side of the instrument, each little boom comes to give a little dynamism but remains down, does not disturb the rest.

The little voice is a little behind up is behind a little lower than the voice

It gives you both a very airy, soft, relaxing but on the other side it's very lively, it's generous, the sub bass adds a good touch of velvet. She gets along without disturbing, she accompanies the instrument that goes into a more airy broom at this time.

And that, KC2 does not give this fun, this striking sweetness, this vivacity of the instrument.

Even the least impactful C10 breaks the whole life of this instrument, that each note plays is more obedient but less alive, you do not have the contrast of the moment of the note play percussive with air broadcast with a reverb more and more great.

It's sweet, it's dynamic, it's alive, it's full, it's fun, it's relaxing, it takes you generously in this desire to follow you this music. All while staying with a very natural, warm tone just right. The softness and amplitude of the DD for the sub bass linked to the very good presence of the main instrument both lively and playful while being air ... currently no other intr has made me so much appreciated this music. And yet I have a beautiful collection

I fell asleep one night while listening to it, it had not happened to me for years to fall asleep headphones in the ears

The ZS7 is that.

 

[BoZ29]

Back on the zs7

I share one of the reason why I love them more than other in this moment ( Google translate, but normally it must be correct )

Hold for example for the ZS7 a music that I particularly like with them

Koan Atahensic: I use a player that allows a repeat ab so runs loop from 3:32 to 5:27
It's very chill and airy (a big part of the album is cool by the way)

The difference with M6 or C10 is its side a little more felted but more percussive, it ended me in love with them

Already the main instrument is very alive, each note, each support is quite alive, percussive while having an air side present. Already it gives him a lot of life, you do not have this impact with others
The second instrument more discreet and acute means perfectly and lighter
The pad arrives and puts an aerial key to support the main instrument

Then the sub bass arrives. With the ZS7 they have a presence while being very controlled, soft. It is "down" and supports the air side of the instrument, each little boom comes to give a little dynamism but remains down, does not disturb the rest.

The little voice is a little behind up is behind a little lower than the voice

It gives you both a very airy, soft, relaxing but on the other side it's very lively, it's generous, the sub bass adds a good touch of velvet. She gets along without disturbing, she accompanies the instrument that goes into a more airy broom at this time.

And that, KC2 does not give this fun, this striking sweetness, this vivacity of the instrument.

Even the least impactful C10 breaks the whole life of this instrument, that each note plays is more obedient but less alive, you do not have the contrast of the moment of the note play percussive with air broadcast with a reverb more and more great.

It's sweet, it's dynamic, it's alive, it's full, it's fun, it's relaxing, it takes you generously in this desire to follow you this music. All while staying with a very natural, warm tone just right. The softness and amplitude of the DD for the sub bass linked to the very good presence of the main instrument both lively and playful while being air ... currently no other intr has made me so much appreciated this music. And yet I have a beautiful collection

I fell asleep one night while listening to it, it had not happened to me for years to fall asleep headphones in the ears

The ZS7 is that.

Totally agree. This zs7 is my favorite inear at this moment!

 

[CoiL]

the big downside is once you force a .78 pin connector into a .75 pin socket, you cannot go back to .75 pin models again as they will simply fall off. Best to stick with the size it is designed for as going the opposite route invites trouble.

That`s not always the problem and when it becomes loose, then You can just slightly bend 0.75 pins to create "holding pressure" and it`s totally ok again.