Knowledge Zenith (KZ) impressions thread
Jan 28, 2017 at 5:16 AM Post #15,768 of 63,958
  LOL. That's hilarious. Really?

 
When you walk into a smelly house you notice the smell, after an hour your brain has compensated for it and you don't smell it as strongly. That's why people who have dogs don't notice the smell in their own home.
 
I think the same applies to sounds, although to a lesser degree. I was reading Brooko's review guide he refers to it in that. I've noticed that if I listen to darker headphones for an extended period, when I come back to a bright pair they seem harsh initially.
 
The brain is probably designed to pick up on sudden changes rather than subtle ones over time, it's probably a survival thing.
 
Jan 28, 2017 at 5:41 AM Post #15,769 of 63,958
  Too many pages to check the difference between ZS3 and ZST. I'm more into smoothness, detailed sound, instrument separation/imaging, great soundstage and controlled tight bass. I like it to sound like I'm in a big theater. Which will be the better choice? Can someone give the difference about how they sound?

 
 
'I'm more into smoothness, detailed sound' - really raising the bar quite high with that requirement as they're almost opposing trends with Chi-Fi earphones. Detail tends to come with more pronounced treble in my experience.
 
Of the two ZSTs are closer but they are still fairly bright.
 
As mentioned ATE or ATR etc. will give you a better match if you need smoothness, I'd lean towards the ATR vs ATE as they're more detailed at the expense of a little mids/mid bass.
 
Here's my take on the KZ range at the moment, I might revisit these scores when I have more time.

 
Jan 28, 2017 at 7:57 AM Post #15,770 of 63,958
So, we are already in the New Chinese Year, where are the ZSR?  
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Jan 28, 2017 at 8:13 AM Post #15,771 of 63,958
  The brain is probably designed to pick up on sudden changes rather than subtle ones over time, it's probably a survival thing.

 
In order for a change to be noticeable, a certain threshold of change has to be passed in order for it to be noticed, which varies from person to person.  It'd be like slowly changing volume over a long period of time where while the beginning and end volume are quite noticeably different the gradual change goes unnoticed.  It's also easily experienced with increase and decrease of available light during sunrise and sunset and throughout the day.
 
Jan 28, 2017 at 9:52 AM Post #15,772 of 63,958
"Burn-in" is actually 100% psycho-acoustical phenomenon all in your brain.
The mechanical part is "set-in" after a few seconds or less of movement, a simple 20-20kHz frequency sweep will set-in the diaphragm completely and forever, already done in the factory.
Don't be fooled by other nonsense.
 
Get a pair of IEMs that sound close-enough to your favorite speakers and just listen to them plenty.
 
Jan 28, 2017 at 10:04 AM Post #15,773 of 63,958
  "Burn-in" is actually 100% psycho-acoustical phenomenon all in your brain.
The mechanical part is "set-in" after a few seconds or less of movement, a simple 20-20kHz frequency sweep will set-in the diaphragm completely and forever, already done in the factory.
Don't be fooled by other nonsense.
 
Get a pair of IEMs that sound close-enough to your favorite speakers and just listen to them plenty.

 
That's wonderful. As has been advised a million times this discussion needs to be left in the Sound Science forum: http://www.head-fi.org/f/133/sound-science
 
Jan 28, 2017 at 10:15 AM Post #15,774 of 63,958
Ok, general knowledge question time which pertains to KZ as they use both connection types.  As they're both two pins, one .78mm and the other .75mm, does any one know the specific connection names as saying 2 pin doesn't really distinguish between the two.  There are WAY too many connector types for IEMs, it's absolutely obnoxious.
 
Jan 28, 2017 at 11:10 AM Post #15,775 of 63,958
Just got the ZS-1 in house. . they are big !  the ZST is nice and shaped , the ZS-1 is like a beat box in your ear .. there is alot of Bass ! the overal sound is ok .. not so detailed as the ZST , i even like the ATR better than the ZS-1 .. The ZS-1 is nice for bass heads i think .. i will let it brake in for a while . may be the staging and high tunes will clear more .. 
 
Great set to give away ! 
 
Jan 28, 2017 at 3:14 PM Post #15,776 of 63,958
 
'I'm more into smoothness, detailed sound' - really raising the bar quite high with that requirement as they're almost opposing trends with Chi-Fi earphones. Detail tends to come with more pronounced treble in my experience.

Not always. The first IEM that comes into my mind is Magaosi BK50, like I already recommended to asker. Big "holographic" soundstage, good layering, great imaging, smooth highs and overall sound but details come out very well almost in every frequency region. Only bass area sounds littlebit "soft" and has less details/crispiness but still has nice quality and presence. 
 
Jan 28, 2017 at 3:45 PM Post #15,777 of 63,958
I always recommend jvc spiral dots. Always. :blush:

Considering the fact that the largest ear tips that came with the ZST could not create a proper seal, what sized spiral dots might work for me - M/L hybrid size or L?
 
Also, I have never owned foam ear tips & I am curious about how they sound when paired with the ZSTs. Does something like Shure EABKF1 foam sleeves work well with the ZST?
 
PS: I wish these ear tips are not so expensive. They are almost as expensive as the ZSTs themselves!
 
Jan 28, 2017 at 4:47 PM Post #15,778 of 63,958
Considering the fact that the largest ear tips that came with the ZST could not create a proper seal, what sized spiral dots might work for me - M/L hybrid size or L?

Also, I have never owned foam ear tips & I am curious about how they sound when paired with the ZSTs. Does something like Shure EABKF1 foam sleeves work well with the ZST?

PS: I wish these ear tips are not so expensive. They are almost as expensive as the ZSTs themselves!


They are pricey but worth it. I have big ears and I use the large ones. Proper seal .I have never got on with foam tips, they seem to reduce bass and soundstage but many headfi'ers swear by them
 
Jan 28, 2017 at 5:20 PM Post #15,779 of 63,958
  Not always. The first IEM that comes into my mind is Magaosi BK50, like I already recommended to asker. Big "holographic" soundstage, good layering, great imaging, smooth highs and overall sound but details come out very well almost in every frequency region. Only bass area sounds littlebit "soft" and has less details/crispiness but still has nice quality and presence. 

 
I haven't got one to hand anymore as I was never that enamoured with BK50. I'll have to borrow my old one off my dad for another listening session.
 
Jan 28, 2017 at 5:45 PM Post #15,780 of 63,958
  Too many pages to check the difference between ZS3 and ZST. I'm more into smoothness, detailed sound, instrument separation/imaging, great soundstage and controlled tight bass. I like it to sound like I'm in a big theater. Which will be the better choice? Can someone give the difference about how they sound?


Sounds like you'll want the ZST Colorfuls. Giant soundstage, great stereo separation, very quick & detailed, tight controlled bass. A little more high focused, but it just brings out the fine details in absolutely everything. Instrument separation is killer and you can focus on any part of the song you want. Drum splashes are gorgeous and detailed. Snares are super fun. Only bad thing about the ZST's is you can tell what was recorded poorly, and it will make a point to let you know it was recorded poorly. Like "pssst, ZST's here, they didn't really care about the recording of this song =\". The ZST's make me smile as I learn new things about a song I've already heard before.

I don't have the ZS3's, so sorry I can't comment on those.
 

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