overhaze
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I see the Thesycon drives have disappeared from the khadas website.
Khadas Tone Board DAC = WOW!
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Anywhere else to get them? I plugged the KTB into my PC and under device manager see XMOS DFU. In Sound Settings, it's named Khadas Tone Control. But I am unable to select any 24-bit option. It's only 16-bit or 32-bit. Is that standard, or do I need to update something?
Same here, it can not do 24bit, audirvana goes to 32bits, khadas has no 24 bit option, 16 or 32 only... Kind of ankoying really. This, and the poor power stability.
overhaze
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New firmware and new drives are available. Ether firmware 2.0 is a miracle or my firmware was bugged because audio quality after the update is AMAZING. The audio has turned to liquid!
scruffy1
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i saw the update, but there is no information on what it actually achieves
is there a new interface to adjust the bit rates or frequency ?
because my khadas already sounds fantastic with the "old" firmware, so more details would inspire me to do the flashing maybe, but sometime if it ain't broke i'd rather not try.... luckily i have a 2nd tone board in transit, so i can experiment
if the firmware is upgraded, can it be reflashed back to the earlier version ?
lots of questions, but no knowledge
scruffy1
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here's what i know.... not much
https://forum.khadas.com/t/tone1-upgrade-to-official-v2-00-firmware/10174
let me try again :
https://www.khadas.com/post/tone1-upgrade-to-official-v2-firmware
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bleeding edge guy i am, done ! seems to sound good, maybe a tad more crisp and clinical but given a/b testing is impossible, and my ears are "tuned" to the older version, i am not capable of valid comparison
currently i think i preferred the old version, but that's likely more to do with familiarity... i'll see what i think in a week or two, and then agonise on the practicality of reverting to the older version if that's possible
https://forum.khadas.com/t/tone1-upgrade-to-official-v2-00-firmware/10174
let me try again :
https://www.khadas.com/post/tone1-upgrade-to-official-v2-firmware
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bleeding edge guy i am, done ! seems to sound good, maybe a tad more crisp and clinical but given a/b testing is impossible, and my ears are "tuned" to the older version, i am not capable of valid comparison
currently i think i preferred the old version, but that's likely more to do with familiarity... i'll see what i think in a week or two, and then agonise on the practicality of reverting to the older version if that's possible
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Yep I just updated my KTB, and I do feel it is a tinge more detailed and analytical sounding with slightly better transients than before the update. But dunno if this is psychological since we can't do A/B testing. Anyways, I'm still enjoying the KTB 1+ years after I first got it, my favourite DAC for sure.
My second go-to dac after my denafrips, is it a sign that TB2 is coming?
scruffy1
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several hours down the track and i'm not so keen on the changes
the hit on transient treble such as rim shots and attack on guitar seem harsher and overwhelmed, whereas the bass seems to lack the same attack and sound muddy, but previously it was remarkably coherent
the dynamic range for all the midrange reproduction is way compressed
it might be a synergy thing, but the living room system has been degraded imho
i will be changing it back if that's a possibility.... i hope that's the case
the hit on transient treble such as rim shots and attack on guitar seem harsher and overwhelmed, whereas the bass seems to lack the same attack and sound muddy, but previously it was remarkably coherent
the dynamic range for all the midrange reproduction is way compressed
it might be a synergy thing, but the living room system has been degraded imho
i will be changing it back if that's a possibility.... i hope that's the case
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scruffy1
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the "new" sound is decidedly less wonderful - using either the wharfedale 10 speakers (10.1's + 10.gx sub) via a nad d3020 amp (previously gorgeous, now profoundly disappointing), or the focal elear headphones (as above)
it's not totally crap, but it is significantly less musical - a combination of harsh upper register and muddy bass
yes, i'm hearing some frequencies that were masked before, but a lot of the detail i liked is missing, like listening from behind a curtain compared to before
concise details on how to effect a reversion to 1.04 is here
https://forum.khadas.com/t/does-the-v2-00-firmware-sound-better/10176/19
thanks to thd0*1
the piano and vocals are back where they were, and the rest is much more pleasant *on my equipment, to my ears*
ymmv but the whole idea is to enjoy what you got the most
additional comment - the tone board remains the best value for money component in my system
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The new firmware has been nothing but a win for me. The sound is much more organic and natural sounding, the windows 24bit bug is fixed and I'm not getting the occasional pops and clicks I was before.
scruffy1
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never had pops or clicks ever
what's the equipment you are using with it ? i reckon that's part of the equation for personal experience and satisfaction
what's the equipment you are using with it ? i reckon that's part of the equation for personal experience and satisfaction
Khadas Tone 2 Pro is gonna release soon:
https://www.khadas.com/tone2pro
https://www.facebook.com/khadas.official/posts/1551398151710313
https://www.khadas.com/tone2pro
https://www.facebook.com/khadas.official/posts/1551398151710313
scruffy1
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nice heads up
reading the specs i can't see it offers me anything over and above what the tone 1 delivers for my meagre needs currently
and i am no fan of rgb bling (" RGB LED ring for status indication and feedback. ") - it's an annoying distraction although i appreciate that it is a simple way to notify settings, but it is usually way too bright for my tastes, unfortunately for me
hybrid digital / analogue volume is a good thing - the stoner ud130 utilises this and it is very precise and feels like an old school volume dial but with no pot hiss, and easy selection of just the right loudness
the ud130 also has an led light to signal output, and it's blinding from directly in front, and intrusively bright in a dark room
some nice features for those who need it; essentially the same ess chip, and the added amplification is great for power hungry phones (mine max out at 80ohms with the elears, and the tone drives them effortlessly, so not something i currently need)
size is good, not so sure of the form factor, but at least it has a case
reading the specs i can't see it offers me anything over and above what the tone 1 delivers for my meagre needs currently
and i am no fan of rgb bling (" RGB LED ring for status indication and feedback. ") - it's an annoying distraction although i appreciate that it is a simple way to notify settings, but it is usually way too bright for my tastes, unfortunately for me
hybrid digital / analogue volume is a good thing - the stoner ud130 utilises this and it is very precise and feels like an old school volume dial but with no pot hiss, and easy selection of just the right loudness
the ud130 also has an led light to signal output, and it's blinding from directly in front, and intrusively bright in a dark room
some nice features for those who need it; essentially the same ess chip, and the added amplification is great for power hungry phones (mine max out at 80ohms with the elears, and the tone drives them effortlessly, so not something i currently need)
size is good, not so sure of the form factor, but at least it has a case
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