JVC HA-SZ2000/1000 Impressions Thread

[Beocord]

Wow, never understood that sz's were that huge. You've heard the both extensively then? Dx1000 is definately audiophile aproved. There are some who have issues with the colored sound, but for most overall quality with huge soundstage and awesome imaging take over in the end. How annoyed would I be with neither of the sz's after dx1000?  How do these compare to Sony xb series? I liked the xb500, but xb700 was disappointing for the price...xb1000 was a complete disaster for the price.

 

[intlsubband]

I uploaded my review to the product review page: http://www.head-fi.org/products/jvc-kenwood-victer-stereo-headphones-ha-sz2000-japan-import/reviews/11052

 

[intlsubband]

I also wanted to let you know that, last weekend, I had a good friend staying over. He is a long time music lover, who listens mostly to rock, blues, and soul. He doesn't know the first thing about headphones, so I was looking forward to have him A/Bing all my headphones. His favorite, by far, was the JVC. He preferred it even over the much pricier HD650 and the ATH-W5000. I was quite surprised.

 

[1c3d0g]

That is very, VERY interesting indeed...and in a good way! 

 

 

[Hawaiibadboy]

  I also wanted to let you know that, last weekend, I had a good friend staying over. He is a long time music lover, who listens mostly to rock, blues, and soul. He doesn't know the first thing about headphones, so I was looking forward to have him A/Bing all my headphones. His favorite, by far, was the JVC. He preferred it even over the much pricier HD650 and the ATH-W5000. I was quite surprised.

 
Knowing what a veil and soundstage and separation etc is    is not really a good thing if your just enjoying. 
We start judging immediately instead of enjoying. I gotta stop thinking too much
 
I put this classic my mom liked on last night and enjoyed it a lot with these cans
 
 
 

 
 

  3. King Crimson, In The Court Of The Crimson King

King Crimson's landmark debut album (sorry, "observation") might have a great cover—it just depends on how you define the word "great." If your definition is "incredibly creepy and hard to look at for fear of going insane," then In The Court Of The Crimson King has one of the greatest rock covers ever. It was the first and only painting by artist Barry Godber, who died of a heart attack at age 24, shortly after the album's release. Draw your own conclusions from that.

 
This cover used to freak me out as a child...it does even more now.
Damn

 

[intlsubband]

   
Knowing what a veil and soundstage and separation etc is    is not really a good thing if your just enjoying. 
We start judging immediately instead of enjoying. I gotta stop thinking too much
 
I put this classic my mom liked on last night and enjoyed it a lot with these cans
 

 
 
Ooh wee, that's a real classic! and I totally agree re-analysing too much. It's easy to get lost when pursuing the best sound out of the best equipment etc and forget that it was once all about the music...
 
Which is why I don't see myself as an audiophile, but a music lover first, who got to a point in life where I can afford spending some money on nice music delivery equipment...
 
At the end of the day, I'll take a great track on a nondescript headphone over a crappy track on a high-end headphone any day of the week.
 
Also, it's good to keep in mind that no amount of money spent on expensive equipment can really replicate the true thrill of falling in love with music. When I think of my teenage years, listening to music on headphones on buses while looking out the window - that's when I fell in love with music (and with headphones listening). The feeling I got when I first listened to The Who's Tommy album for example (album! not the crappy soundtrack...), I won't be able to replicate today even if I listen to it on an HE-90.

 

[intlsubband]

 

 
 

 
This cover used to freak me out as a child...it does even more now.
Damn

 
I never knew that! creepy...

 

[Hawaiibadboy]

Artist draws one pic....looks like insanity ....pure madness. And that kid dies at 24....heart attack? 24? ....never having created another painting??
 
spooky. He musta had some madness coming up outta him. That album always made me un nerved

 

[nipponbiki]

   
I personally preferred the feel of the HM5 pads, but that might be a personal reference. I haven't spent much time with the 770 pads on them, so perhaps they do lift up the veil more. I'll try to listen to them some more with the 770 pads this weekend and will let you know if I can a difference.
 
Keep in mind that it can be subjective, both in terms of how we each "hear" music, but even things like head shapes which can change the seal of different pads and might give different people different sounds with the same pads.

Intl,
 
That would be great!
By the way, how would you compare with the Signature DJ?

 

[intlsubband]

  Intl,
 
That would be great!
By the way, how would you compare with the Signature DJ?

 
I've never had a chance to try any of the Ultrasone cans - maybe one day...

 

[pietcux]

  Intl,
 
That would be great!
By the way, how would you compare with the Signature DJ?

 
The Signature Dj is very bright compared to the SZ2000, and has less bass, that's it. For Pop songs I prefer the Sig Dj, For Rap the SZ2000 is the go to can. The sound of the SZ2000 reminds me to the good old tube radio time. These also had such veil starting in the mid range already. The Signature Pro is the most balanced and detailed from the trio on the pic. BTW the SZ2000 is much less effective as both Signatures. Have to raise the volume by ~ 40% roughly. So impedance is a relative thing.

 

[nipponbiki]

   
 
The Signature Dj is very bright compared to the SZ2000, and has less bass, that's it. For Pop songs I prefer the Sig Dj, For Rap the SZ2000 is the go to can. The sound of the SZ2000 reminds me to the good old tube radio time. These also had such veil starting in the mid range already. The Signature Pro is the most balanced and detailed from the trio on the pic. BTW the SZ2000 is much less effective as both Signatures. Have to raise the volume by ~ 40% roughly. So impedance is a relative thing.

 
Oh really?  Just based on what I have read, I was coming to the conclusion that the Sig DJ would be the better phone for me, but I really don't like a bright sound.
 
Anyway, I just posted this in the audiophile bass forum:
 
Hey guys,
 
Had the JVC SZ-2000 redelivered today thankfully as otherwise I would have had to wait until after the holiday weekend is over.
Just started listening to them, like for only 2 songs so far, so I won't give any impressions yet.
Will do so though as soon as I have a better feel.
 
I haven't gotten new pads yet cause I didn't think the phones would get here so fast and I hadn't yet made up my mind to get pleather or velor pads.
 
By the way, are there any obvious places to put some EQ such as spikes in the upper mids or lower treble?

 

[nipponbiki]

Well, I have already twisted toilet paper into a 1/4 inch or so roll to stuff in that dead space to give some clearance as after an hour or so it was starting to be uncomfortable on my right ear.
 
I am not impressed with the level of isolation as I can hear my typing pretty clearly during soft passages of music (I do use a mechanical keyboard, but I have never noticed any keyboard noise with the Shures before).
 
Since I am still debating velor or pleather pads, would either type have any benefit to isolation?

 

[Hawaiibadboy]

   
Depends on the song
 
 
 
 
Madonna's "Take a Bow" was a clarity test song so i just fired it up
 
 
The Low to Mid transition needs help on this track and in general for me. Also 3k 7k and 14K can use a lift to give a clarity test track a nice sound
I think the low>>mid tran (350Hz ish) point and 7k could always generally need a lift. 14k for high highs. You cannot turn off the dual bass tubes so you need to lift the mid tran and the particular highs depending on the genre'

 

[intlsubband]

  Well, I have already twisted toilet paper into a 1/4 inch or so roll to stuff in that dead space to give some clearance as after an hour or so it was starting to be uncomfortable on my right ear.
 
I am not impressed with the level of isolation as I can hear my typing pretty clearly during soft passages of music (I do use a mechanical keyboard, but I have never noticed any keyboard noise with the Shures before).
 
Since I am still debating velor or pleather pads, would either type have any benefit to isolation?

 
The HM5 pads all the way for isolation. With them, it's a very well isolated headphone - but again, it can be down to head/ear shape - for me there's excellent isolation with the HM5 pads.
 
The stock pads were very clearly inferior in the isolation department.