[Hawaiibadboy]

  I just tried the HE-400's for a few hours and didn't really like them at all. The bass was super detailed, but it was way too soft. The vocals were also jarring.
 
I'm now considering the V-moda 100's vs. the HA-SZ2000's for the general larger presence of their bass. Can anyone detail the differences between these two headphones?

 V Moda just need XL pads and an amp and they are ready to go (of course a bump in the eq in 30-60Hz is a given)
SZ2k must have a pad change and an amp and a eq.  They are both dark headphones and I like that. Matter of taste. The sz2k if handled by a person with patience and some eq ability to trial and error will get a notably larger bass hit.
 
The passive x-over between the sz drivers are the issue that better pads and eq and amp gain can fix to a point where it is a non issue in some genre. They do not play rock and roll well.
 The Moda are tuned and more user friendly and comfort is fixed with pad change.
 
Bass impact?
SZ2K
 
Ease of use/portability?
M100
 
 
 
I own the SZ and the M100 briefly.
I still own the SZ.
 
If you found bass on open backs soft that's normal if the vocals were jarring then dark is what you want and the Moda and SZ both have that and a good kick.

 

[epkrnftblluva]

 
 V Moda just need XL pads and an amp and they are ready to go (of course a bump in the eq in 30-60Hz is a given)
SZ2k must have a pad change and an amp and a eq.  They are both dark headphones and I like that. Matter of taste. The sz2k if handled by a person with patience and some eq ability to trial and error will get a notably larger bass hit.
 
The passive x-over between the sz drivers are the issue that better pads and eq and amp gain can fix to a point where it is a non issue in some genre. They do not play rock and roll well.
 The Moda are tuned and more user friendly and comfort is fixed with pad change.
 
Bass impact?
SZ2K
 
Ease of use/portability?
M100
 
 
 
I own the SZ and the M100 briefly.
I still own the SZ.
 
If you found bass on open backs soft that's normal if the vocals were jarring then dark is what you want and the Moda and SZ both have that and a good kick.

Thanks HBB! That actually helped a lot. Last few questions.
 
I'm willing to put in the effort to EQ, pad change, and amp gain. Is the SZ-2K better for mid-bass kicks as well? I understand that their sub-bass is impressive, but I'm looking for more mid-bass kick for the drops in big room house music.
 
Also, which has greater soundstage and imaging? And which has better clarity in the vocals while maintaining the impact of the bass?
 
I probably posed a similar question to you about these headphones over on the basshead thread, feel free to ignore that if you want. Thanks!

 

[Hawaiibadboy]

  Thanks HBB! That actually helped a lot. Last few questions.
 
I'm willing to put in the effort to EQ, pad change, and amp gain. Is the SZ-2K better for mid-bass kicks as well? I understand that their sub-bass is impressive, but I'm looking for more mid-bass kick for the drops in big room house music.
 
Also, which has greater soundstage and imaging? And which has better clarity in the vocals while maintaining the impact of the bass?
 
I probably posed a similar question to you about these headphones over on the basshead thread, feel free to ignore that if you want. Thanks!

 I think other users will be better qualified to help you from here on out.
 
If money is not the main thing the Ultrasons Signature DJ are my friends faves and he listened to what you like.
 
Expensive but great cans.

 

[dropbassnotbomb]

I wanna hear mid-bass drops in big room house music. Armin, david guetta, SHM, w&w etc is that what you are talking about or some underground music?

Attach some links of your favorite mid-bass tracks. Party monster and stuck with orthos and sennheisers lol.

 

[epkrnftblluva]

I wanna hear mid-bass drops in big room house music. Armin, david guetta, SHM, w&w etc is that what you are talking about or some underground music?

Attach some links of your favorite mid-bass tracks. Party monster and stuck with orthos and sennheisers lol.

 
Yup! Exactly those artists. Funny you should say Sennheisers, I decided I had more fun with my HD518's than the HE-400 orthos. However, I wanted to chase the detail and quality of the bass on the orthos. Some links: 
 



 
I guess I'm just really chasing that PUNCH when the drops come in.

 

[dropbassnotbomb]

If edm is your style then you need dr hbb recommened jvc ha sz2000.
You will get double stuffed bass, mids and highs which can be easily comparable to any GOOD headphones but you wont get the crystal clear audio reproduction and that instrument separation of orthos for sure.

In your case bass is a three course meal and the rest is just starters. That fiio combo of yours will make you smile.

 

[maurizioTH]

HI, it is recommended to use the jvc sz2000 or jvc sz1000 with the fiio e10 olympus dac?, sorry for my english, i'm italian. thanks.

 

[gikigill]

You can use either one Maurizio.

 

[maurizioTH]

Do you think for techno music (many low frequencies, but also medium and high) are better  the 1000 or the 2000? or another headphones, in this range of money?

 

[maurizioTH]

You can use either one Maurizio.

 
Do you think for techno music (many low frequencies, but also medium and high) are better  the 1000 or the 2000? or another headphones, in this range of money?

 

[gikigill]

Bass is better on the SZ2000 while the SZ1000 is more balanced.

 

[LaPierre]

Some company needs to make a bass heavy planar. Like +10db from 10 - 100 hz with a slight peak (to +15db) at 20 - 30hz.

 

[epkrnftblluva]

Bass is better on the SZ2000 while the SZ1000 is more balanced.

Are there any other downsides to getting the SZ1000 over the S2k? I'm thinking S1k is a better mixture of vocals and bass for that popular big room house music. I'm seriously considering picking one of these bad boys up

 

[epkrnftblluva]

  Some company needs to make a bass heavy planar. Like +10db from 10 - 100 hz with a slight peak (to +15db) at 20 - 30hz.

Exactly. I think it would become enormously popular. Planars focus too much on the audiophile community. If they released a consumer bass heavy version, I reckon it would do might well. 

 

[maurizioTH]

Do you know a cheaper alternative to the Fiio e12? for example the e 11, does it can do a good job with the sz1000?