iPhone 6 & 6 Plus Audio Quality

Jan 30, 2015 at 8:10 AM Post #1,141 of 1,976
I'm pleased the 6 suits you. Doesn't sound like my flavour. The last thing my IE8's need is more warmth. I shall be hanging onto my 5S as long as possible.
I fully expect Apple to head down the "optimised for Beats" route.
They don't give a **** about us audiophiles. Mass market is where they operate.

Agreed. They'll probably integrate Beats into iOS. Since 95% of Apple users (99% ?) also think Beats is a premium headphone brand, it'll be fine with the user base. 
 
Well, for audiophiles in Europe, it doesn't matter. Unless you go to America to get one, you're stuck with the European iPhone 6 which gets only half as loud as non-Euro iPhone 6. Not just volume but SQ also suffers. Some people use portable amps but I don't like carrying them around. I'm going to buy the upcoming Galaxy S6 with Wolfson dac instead. 
 
Jan 30, 2015 at 8:16 AM Post #1,142 of 1,976
Agreed. They'll probably integrate Beats into iOS. Since 95% of Apple users (99% ?) also think Beats is a premium headphone brand, it'll be fine with the user base. 

Well, for audiophiles in Europe, it doesn't matter. Unless you go to America to get one, you're stuck with the European iPhone 6 which gets only half as loud as non-Euro iPhone 6. Not just volume but SQ also suffers. Some people use portable amps but I don't like carrying them around. I'm going to buy the upcoming Galaxy S6 with Wolfson dac instead. 


The trend seem to be moving away from wolf's on at the moment. But I have high hopes in apple. They love music. They won't cut us off. Instead I think they will make our lives easier. Like the direct digital out via lightning that enables such cool devices like the centrance hifi skyn.

By the way, how does Samsung work around the imposed volume limit?

Cheers,
K
 
Jan 30, 2015 at 8:25 AM Post #1,143 of 1,976
The trend seem to be moving away from wolf's on at the moment. But I have high hopes in apple. They love music. They won't cut us off. Instead I think they will make our lives easier. Like the direct digital out via lightning that enables such cool devices like the centrance hifi skyn.

By the way, how does Samsung work around the imposed volume limit?

Cheers,
K

 
You're in Dubai right? You needn't worry. :)
 
Samsung doesn't. :) You just root the phone and change a file or two, it takes 5 minutes.
 
Jan 30, 2015 at 8:31 AM Post #1,144 of 1,976
You're in Dubai right? You needn't worry. :)

Samsung doesn't. :) You just root the phone and change a file or two, it takes 5 minutes.


Well. We might have full volume here but instead we have deactivated facetime on iOS and no BBM video/Voice on BBOS, censored Internet and and and ;/) but nothing you can't "root" as well ;-)

Cheers,
K
 
Jan 30, 2015 at 8:51 AM Post #1,145 of 1,976
I fully expect Apple to head down the "optimised for Beats" route.
They don't give a **** about us audiophiles. Mass market is where they operate.


IMO Apple care about providing great sound quality to everyone, and IMO the iP6/+ is their best to date but I think also that any device manufacturers best interests are always in improving sq as much as they can with new improved models they develop.
 
Jan 30, 2015 at 12:23 PM Post #1,148 of 1,976
I still miss the sound of my Wolfson I9300... and modern bluetooth functionality... and ... and....
 
It is interesting news that Samsung is abandoning Qualcomm. Though Wolfson was recently acquired -- who knows what will be coming next.
 
http://venturebeat.com/2014/04/29/audio-chip-giant-emerges-from-cirrus-logic-acquisition-of-wolfson-microelectronics/
 
Will Cirrus give them more production capacity? Will the Wolfson brand go away? Who knows.
 
Jan 30, 2015 at 1:03 PM Post #1,149 of 1,976
I don't share your faith in Apple. Note that they bought Beats. Not Sennheiser!


Indeed. Because they didn't buy an audio equipment company any but a streaming service, curating and contacts with the music industry. Sennheiser, beyerdynamic etc would be way cheaper to buy if they would be for sale. In my opinion.
 
Jan 30, 2015 at 1:08 PM Post #1,151 of 1,976
  I still miss the sound of my Wolfson I9300... and modern bluetooth functionality... and ... and....
 
It is interesting news that Samsung is abandoning Qualcomm. Though Wolfson was recently acquired -- who knows what will be coming next.
 
http://venturebeat.com/2014/04/29/audio-chip-giant-emerges-from-cirrus-logic-acquisition-of-wolfson-microelectronics/
 
Will Cirrus give them more production capacity? Will the Wolfson brand go away? Who knows.

 
Yeah... Now that Cirrus bought Wolfson, I don't think there will be much difference in terms of sound signature/quality. I wonder if Wolfson chips will be produced under Cirrus name from now on?..
 
Samsung is doing the right thing. Qualcomm is such a lazy and lousy company, and their audio codecs simply suck. Apple made custom 64 bit chips 2 years ago... Qualcomm can't even do it now, upcoming SD810 is not a custom design but an Arm one, and all the reports say it overheats. Exynos 7420 in Galaxy  S6 will be the first chip on 14 nm process and is technically superior to both Apple's and Qualcomm's chips. Samsung recently opened a USD 15 billion Exynos chip factory outside Seoul. I bet they're also going to produce next iPhone's chips there.
 
Jan 30, 2015 at 1:59 PM Post #1,152 of 1,976
Trying to assess that gripes about iPhone 6 bass i have been comparing it to my good old iPad 3 (which i deem as warm, and sounds almost identical the iPhone 4s).

Well i don't hear the 6 being any warmer. What sticks out it's that transients and percussion sound more clear, natural and life like on the 6 which makes the iPad 3 sound a bit compressed.

I think that 5s has been the only Apple handheld that steered clear from a warm tone and the 6 is just the return of the usual iPhone warmth but keeping the killer transients and percussion that 5s brought to the table.

As i said at high levels the 6 is mesmerizing. Like being at the studio.


Fear the man wearing velcro strapped sandals, for he has nothing left to lose.
 
Jan 30, 2015 at 2:02 PM Post #1,153 of 1,976
Coming from the iPhone 5, there is no doubt that I welcomed the additional power output of the 6.  More sensitive IEMs were able to be driven much easier, and even hard to drive headphones were just a bit more listenable!
 
Jan 30, 2015 at 2:31 PM Post #1,155 of 1,976
I have to admit, I haven't actually heard the 6!
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Nah, it's all good.  Hopefully you'll get to hear it one day. 
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