Introducing Shanling SCD1.3 - New SACD player
Jan 17, 2024 at 2:08 PM Post #16 of 71
I own and use the PS Audio Perfectwave Transport SACD Transport everyday connected with i2s to an SMSL VMV D2 DAC which plays SACD DSD layers. So when you say that" PS AUDIO had to create there own and keep it in there own" I don't understand,can you help me understand please.
According to Paul from psnaudio if you use the connection for any other dac chip it will be converted to pcm. So to make sure you can not rip it. Only if you use psaudio DACs would it stay pure dsd. Atleast that's the explanation have had every time have asked this question. Can you tell me if it's dad or pcm on you smsl?
 
Jan 17, 2024 at 2:10 PM Post #17 of 71
Nice to see more options for SACD playback.



I think the other post is referring to the additional 'handshake' that was on their older model, the Memory Player. That model required the DirectStream DAC for DSD over IIS, but the Perfectwave SACD transport removed that handshake and DSD over IIS works with other DACs like the Holo May. Good to know it works with the SMSL VMV D2. Do you need to change any settings to switch back to PCM?
Thanks exactly what I meant. So wow they made it actually work nice.
 
Jan 17, 2024 at 8:25 PM Post #20 of 71
I would actually have hoped for a proper hi-res streaming section and a decent headphone amp making this a true all-in-one. As it now turns out, there may be a headphone connection on the device, but that seems more an afterthought than a true quality add-on … 🧐

It has a simpler Headphone amp built-in, we are still limited a bit by the price to be putting in a high-end headphone amp.
SCD1.3 main aim is as DAC.

$1,279 is actually very competitively priced for an SACD player, this one is a much better value than that sort of UFO looking one that doesn’t even do SACD.

Since Shanling is rolling out so many CD units though, I’d love to see them address a huge hole in the market: no one is making CD-ripping jukebox devices anymore.


By that I mean a component with a CD drive that also has a place for you to put in a hard drive, and when you put in a CD you can hit a button for it to rip it do the HDD in FLAC format.

Combine that with an app that shows the album art and downloads the track names for navigation and that would be a killer product. You can enjoy all of your CDs without having to actually deal with putting in the physical CD except for the first time.

Why is no one doing this anymore?

USB CD drives can be purchased for 15 USD and run with Exact Audio Copy on computer.

Seems it would take quite a lot of work on our side to design, manufacturer and program software to compete with 15 USD computer accessory and free software

Very interesting buy why have an output impedance of 4.7 ohms for the headphone section? This should be 1 or less ohms. It can mess with the frequencies.

Nature of TPA6120 used in our designs. Our audio engineers don't see it as an issue.

loving it - but can Shanling confirm the IS2 output is putting out true SACD to DAC or is it in fact PCM?

It's noted in all SCD1.3 announcements, the digital output for SACD playback is PCM 88.2 kHz.
 
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Jan 17, 2024 at 8:45 PM Post #21 of 71
Nature of TPA6120 used in our designs. Our audio engineers don't see it as an issue.
It is a big issue if you have low, impedance headphones, which a lot of them are these days. You will roll off the highs in the sound will be kind of flat. It is so easy to put a buffer in and lower the output impedance but with 4.7 ohms output impedance is just strange.
 
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Jan 17, 2024 at 9:32 PM Post #22 of 71
It is a big issue if you have low, impedance headphones, which a lot of them are these days. You will roll off the highs in the sound will be kind of flat. It is so easy to put a buffer in and lower the output impedance but with 4.7 ohms output impedance is just strange.
I'm very well aware of the potential issues with the high output impedance and it was discussed with our engineers over multiple products.

High output impedance is quite common at Shanling devices, recently both H5 and ONIX Mystic XP1 both have this 4.7 Ohm output impedance. We make it clear in our specification and it's up to the customers to know if it will have any negative effect on their headphones.
 
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Jan 18, 2024 at 12:09 AM Post #24 of 71
Can this burn SACD to dsf file?
 
Jan 18, 2024 at 4:07 AM Post #28 of 71
Are the analogue outputs sending out DSD please?

Thanks in advance!
Yes, the local DAC processed the full DSD stream from SACD.
 
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Jan 18, 2024 at 7:25 PM Post #30 of 71
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