Introducing NEO iDSD2! The world's first lossless Bluetooth DAC/Amp...
Feb 5, 2024 at 1:27 PM Post #196 of 252
Any updates? I am on the verge of buying it, but that would be a deal breaker
I just got confirmation that the Line out is muted when you connect headphones, Thanks for your patience.

Hope this helps.

Cheers!!
 
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Feb 5, 2024 at 1:59 PM Post #197 of 252
I just got confirmation that the Line out is muted when you connect headphones, Thanks for your patience.

Hope this helps.

Cheers!!

Thanks. I will try it out then :)
 
Feb 5, 2024 at 2:45 PM Post #199 of 252
Be sure to let us know your thoughts!

Thanks for the support!

Cheers!!

Btw, is there a way for v1 Performance Edition to mute LO on HP connection?
 
Feb 5, 2024 at 4:25 PM Post #200 of 252
Btw, is there a way for v1 Performance Edition to mute LO on HP connection?
I can check for you, My apologies but I have never had one of the NEO iDSD units here or I would know right away, I will also check the thread for it here to see if an owner has mentioned it.

Cheers!!
 
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Feb 8, 2024 at 8:50 PM Post #202 of 252
Can anyone compare this to burson audio conductor 3x performance? They're around the same price and offer similar levels of performance on paper so it could be interesting 🧐
This would be an interesting comparison, that I don't think I have seen here in this thread anyway.

Hopefully, someone can comment for you!

Cheers!!
 
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Feb 14, 2024 at 6:39 PM Post #203 of 252
Finally getting a chance to check out the NEO 2 for myself!

Pairing it with the NEO Stream, and looking forward to seeing if a clock makes for an improvement!

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Feb 19, 2024 at 5:43 PM Post #204 of 252
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Supports new aptX Lossless – the only Bluetooth codec capable of streaming lossless CD-quality audio, AND boasts a powerful 5551mW output that outshines many headphone amps.

1695384015924.png

The world's first lossless Bluetooth DAC/Amp

Supports new aptX Lossless – the only Bluetooth codec capable of streaming lossless CD-quality audio, AND boasts a powerful 5551mW output that outshines many headphone amps.

It’s head-fi. It’s desk-fi. And it’s hi-fi.​


The NEO iDSD 2 is our versatile new 3-in-1 DAC/Amp, designed specifically for CAS audiophiles. It pairs effortlessly with your headphones as a Head-Fi DAC/Amp, can be used as a pure DAC with your integrated amplifier, or serve as a DAC/Preamp for your active speakers and power amplifier.
It features the latest Bluetooth 5.4, supporting the new aptX Lossless, the only Bluetooth codec capable of streaming lossless CD-quality audio without sacrificing audio quality.
The NEO iDSD 2 has improved headphone and line outputs, providing ample power for your high-demanding headphones, as well as power amplifiers.


My Blue isn’t your blue. It’s new and Lossless.​

The NEO iDSD 2 features the latest Bluetooth 5.4 technology, supporting the new aptX Lossless codec, which provides a maximum bitrate of 1,200kbps. In comparison, aptX Adaptive has a maximum bitrate of 420kbps, while LDAC offers a higher bitrate of 990kbps.

However, aptX Lossless is the first and only Bluetooth codec capable of streaming CD-quality audio without using a compression method that degrades sound quality. While other Bluetooth codecs claim to support CD-quality and even hi-res audio, they employ lossy compression during transmission, which negatively affects sound quality.

The NEO iDSD 2 used Qualcomm’s new QCC518x Bluetooth audio chip, is qualified to Bluetooth 5.4, supported all* Bluetooth formats including: aptX Lossless, aptX Adaptive, aptX, LDAC, LHDC/HWA, AAC and SBC.

*As of 22 Sep 2023. Check your device for Bluetooth codec support.

Bluetooth codec maximum bitrates compared​

aptX Lossless: 1,200kbps
LDAC: 990kbps
aptX: 352kbps
SBC: 328kbps

5x more headphone output power than its predecessor.​

You heard me correctly – the headphone output power of the NEO iDSD 2 is a whopping 5 times more powerful than that of the 1st-gen NEO iDSD. With a maximum headphone output power of 5,551 mW (@ 32Ω), it outperforms even some dedicated headphone amplifiers, making them sweat. The headphone section has seen significant improvement, as we’ve essentially integrated a Diablo headphone circuit into it.
It features Auto iEMatch to reduce annoying hiss from high-sensitivity headphones without losing any dynamic range and four gain settings ranging from -12dB to +16dB, making it suitable for all your IEMs and headphone types, from super-sensitive to power-hungry.
The NEO iDSD 2 is not only a powerhouse, but it’s also tailored for your ears. The newly added analogue processing modes, XSpace and XBass II, along with the four digital filters, allow you to finetune the sound. Both XSpace and XBass II are pure analogue signal processing modes designed to adjust the soundstage and low-frequency response to match your headphones.
NEO iDSD 2 from iFi audio

NEO iDSD 2 from iFi audio

NEO iDSD 2 from iFi audio


Stand by you. No matter up or down.​

Whether you’re using the NEO iDSD 2 as a Desk-Fi or Hi-Fi, you can position it horizontally or vertically. The new 2-inch color display automatically rotates to suit the orientation.

When using it as a Desk-Fi, you can position it vertically on your desk to save space. Set it to variable output, and with its powerful 19.5V maximum balanced output, it works well with your active speakers with volume control. The volume control is analog, which is superior to any digital volume control.

When using the NEO iDSD 2 as a Hi-Fi, you can place it horizontally. It can serve as a pure DAC, playing all Hi-Res music files from PCM 32-bit/768kHz to DSD512 and full MQA decoding. You can also connect it directly to your power amplifier as a preamplifier, utilizing its analogue volume control.

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GMT Femto-Precision Clock. Upgradable.​

The internal GMT femto-precision clock, combined with a smart storage cache, forms an advanced jitter reduction system. It effectively reduces jitter in the digital signal, producing cleaner and more accurate sound.
If you possess a more accurate external clock, or if you wish to synchronize with other devices such as CD players or network streamers that have an external clock input, you can connect both the NEO iDSD 2 and the other devices to the external clock via the 10MHz External Sync Clock input for even greater clock signal accuracy.
It’s rare to find an External Sync Clock input in this price range. Even if you don’t have an external clock, the internal GMT femto-precision clock still offers excellent performance in its class.

1695384354496.png

More than new features. Enhanced circuitry.​

The NEO iDSD 2’s enhanced PureWave circuit design, with its balanced dual-mono topology and short signal paths, is known for outstanding linearity and minimal noise and distortion, offering you exceptional sonic purity.

The results are an improved Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR) of >120dB(A), Dynamic Range (DNR) of -120dB(A), and Total Harmonic Distortion plus Noise (THD+N) of <0.0015%, bringing the NEO iDSD 2’s performance on par with DACs at a higher price point.

1695384511024.png

Introducing the new iFi Nexis App​

Introducing the iFi Nexis App for your NEO iDSD 2. Simply search for “NEO iDSD 2” in the app to access a suite of features and settings. Easily perform OTA upgrades, which automatically update your device over the network.
The app offers a convenient way to control your NEO iDSD 2, allowing you to adjust functions and settings with ease. Download the iFi Nexis App now and experience the full potential of your NEO iDSD 2.


Hi-res audio support is state-of-the-art with True Native® playback. It handles PCM data to 32-bit/768kHz, DSD up to DSD512 and single and double speed DXD.
Thanks to the Burr-Brown DAC chip’s four-channel True Native design, PCM and DSD take separate pathways – this enables DSD, as well as PCM, to remain ‘bit-perfect’ in its native form right through to analogue conversion. This is not the case with all DAC devices from other brands – even if DSD compatibility is stated, many such DACs convert DSD signals to PCM.


The XMOS 16-Core chip processes the audio data received via the USB* digital input.
This new low-latency XMOS microcontroller has greatly enhanced processing power. Compared to the current generation of eight-core chips, this new 16-core IC delivers double the clock speed (2000MIPS) and four times the memory (512KB), as well as the latest SuperSpeed USB standard.
iFi’s in-house digital development team has programmed the XMOS firmware to optimise sound quality and ensure a perfect partnership with the Burr-Brown DAC.
(* Also on S/PDIF on the NEO iDSD/Diablo)


MQA (Master Quality Authenticated) is supported through the USB with full decoding of MQA files up to 384kHz thanks to the processing power of the new 16-core XMOS chip.
Check out how to set up your MQA decoder via Tidal, Roon and Audirvana here.
This means that the full ‘three unfold’ decoding process is performed internally, as opposed to only the final unfold in the manner of an MQA ‘renderer’.
Globally, MQA has become an important consideration for any comprehensively equipped DAC. It is available through for Tidal Masters, Audirvana and Roon.


The Burr-Brown True Native® chipset means file formats remain unchanged or ‘bit-perfect’. This means you are listening to music as the artist intended in the format in which it was recorded.
At iFi we use Burr Brown extensively in our products having selected it for its natural-sounding ‘musicality’ and True Native architecture. Our experience with this IC means we know how to make the most of it.

1695665194076.png
We use Qualcomm’s new QCC518x Bluetooth processing IC in combination with proprietary circuits to create an audibly superior ‘Bluetooth engine’.

All the current high-definition Bluetooth audio formats are supported – Qualcomm’s aptX Loessless and aptX Adaptive, Sony’s LDAC and HWA’s LHDC, regular aptX, AAC (Apple iOS devices) and SBC (the ‘plain vanilla’ Bluetooth codec).
aptX Adaptive can stream audio up to 24-bit/96kHz and LDAC’s specification stretches up to 32-bit/96kHz – these are ‘lossy’ formats. aptX Lossless is the first Bluetooth audio format capable of streaming CD-quality (16-bit/44.1kHz) audio ‘losslessly’ (although technically it still applies some compression). It achieves bitrates of up to 1.2Mbps at CD-quality – that’s more than twice the maximum bitrate of aptX Adaptive and aptX HD, and roughly 20 per cent higher than LDAC’s maximum figure.


Extensive jitter-eradication technologies are applied to the digital stage, including our GMT (Global Master Timing) femto-precision clock and intelligent memory buffer. This represents a total ‘out-of-the-box’ systematic digital solution that solves jitter once and for all.


Balanced, differential analogue circuit design has long been championed for its ability to reduce noise and cross-talk within the signal path by fully separating the left and right channels.
PureWave is a new, balanced, symmetrical dual-mono topology with short, direct signal paths. The name refers to the sonic purity it achieves thanks to exceptional linearity and infinitesimally low levels of noise and distortion.


As with many other iFi audio products, we’ve incorporated a custom OV Series operational-amplifier. This top-notch component contributes to the extremely low noise, low distortion (0.0001%) and wide bandwidth.

Switching between settings has been engineered to ensure sonic transparency with advanced trench technology MOSFET is used as a muting switch.
This FET-based switching is handled by a micro-controller, which only ‘wakes up’ when the user changes a setting, thus eradicating any sonically deleterious interference.


TDK C0G (Class 1 ceramic) capacitors offer high stability and low losses for resonant circuit applications.
Getting ever closer to the theoretical ideal of pure, frequency-constant capacitance, these capacitors reduce capacitor-induced distortion to vanishingly low levels.
They are pricey but are a perfect addition to our products.

Extensive jitter-eradication technologies are applied to the digital stage, including our GMT (Global Master Timing) femto-precision clock and the intelligent memory buffer.
The low-jitter crystal clock has been updated to provide >20dB better performance

muRata control-type, low-ESR high-Q multi-layer capacitors. The ‘ESR control’ aspect of the Murata is something special. Their noise suppression abilities are impressive.


Texas Instruments low-noise ICs offer great unity-gain bandwidth, very low noise and distortion, high output drive capability, Common-mode and Power Supply Rejection Ratios of over 100 dB, wide maximum-output-swing bandwidths and high slew rates.

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Here is a link to current APTx Lossless Products, Be sure "your device" is capable of this Codec before purchasing the iDSD 2 for this functionality...

This list is filtered by "phones" but can be used for other devices,

https://www.aptx.com/product-listin...x]=2023/09/31&sort_by=created&sort_order=DESC


Thanks for looking!

Cheers!!

NEO iDSD2

EDIT: Correction of the Khz capability of Codecs.
 
Feb 19, 2024 at 5:44 PM Post #205 of 252
1695385333644.png


Supports new aptX Lossless – the only Bluetooth codec capable of streaming lossless CD-quality audio, AND boasts a powerful 5551mW output that outshines many headphone amps.

1695384015924.png

The world's first lossless Bluetooth DAC/Amp

Supports new aptX Lossless – the only Bluetooth codec capable of streaming lossless CD-quality audio, AND boasts a powerful 5551mW output that outshines many headphone amps.

It’s head-fi. It’s desk-fi. And it’s hi-fi.​


The NEO iDSD 2 is our versatile new 3-in-1 DAC/Amp, designed specifically for CAS audiophiles. It pairs effortlessly with your headphones as a Head-Fi DAC/Amp, can be used as a pure DAC with your integrated amplifier, or serve as a DAC/Preamp for your active speakers and power amplifier.
It features the latest Bluetooth 5.4, supporting the new aptX Lossless, the only Bluetooth codec capable of streaming lossless CD-quality audio without sacrificing audio quality.
The NEO iDSD 2 has improved headphone and line outputs, providing ample power for your high-demanding headphones, as well as power amplifiers.


My Blue isn’t your blue. It’s new and Lossless.​

The NEO iDSD 2 features the latest Bluetooth 5.4 technology, supporting the new aptX Lossless codec, which provides a maximum bitrate of 1,200kbps. In comparison, aptX Adaptive has a maximum bitrate of 420kbps, while LDAC offers a higher bitrate of 990kbps.

However, aptX Lossless is the first and only Bluetooth codec capable of streaming CD-quality audio without using a compression method that degrades sound quality. While other Bluetooth codecs claim to support CD-quality and even hi-res audio, they employ lossy compression during transmission, which negatively affects sound quality.

The NEO iDSD 2 used Qualcomm’s new QCC518x Bluetooth audio chip, is qualified to Bluetooth 5.4, supported all* Bluetooth formats including: aptX Lossless, aptX Adaptive, aptX, LDAC, LHDC/HWA, AAC and SBC.

*As of 22 Sep 2023. Check your device for Bluetooth codec support.

Bluetooth codec maximum bitrates compared​

aptX Lossless: 1,200kbps
LDAC: 990kbps
aptX: 352kbps
SBC: 328kbps

5x more headphone output power than its predecessor.​

You heard me correctly – the headphone output power of the NEO iDSD 2 is a whopping 5 times more powerful than that of the 1st-gen NEO iDSD. With a maximum headphone output power of 5,551 mW (@ 32Ω), it outperforms even some dedicated headphone amplifiers, making them sweat. The headphone section has seen significant improvement, as we’ve essentially integrated a Diablo headphone circuit into it.
It features Auto iEMatch to reduce annoying hiss from high-sensitivity headphones without losing any dynamic range and four gain settings ranging from -12dB to +16dB, making it suitable for all your IEMs and headphone types, from super-sensitive to power-hungry.
The NEO iDSD 2 is not only a powerhouse, but it’s also tailored for your ears. The newly added analogue processing modes, XSpace and XBass II, along with the four digital filters, allow you to finetune the sound. Both XSpace and XBass II are pure analogue signal processing modes designed to adjust the soundstage and low-frequency response to match your headphones.
NEO iDSD 2 from iFi audio

NEO iDSD 2 from iFi audio

NEO iDSD 2 from iFi audio


Stand by you. No matter up or down.​

Whether you’re using the NEO iDSD 2 as a Desk-Fi or Hi-Fi, you can position it horizontally or vertically. The new 2-inch color display automatically rotates to suit the orientation.

When using it as a Desk-Fi, you can position it vertically on your desk to save space. Set it to variable output, and with its powerful 19.5V maximum balanced output, it works well with your active speakers with volume control. The volume control is analog, which is superior to any digital volume control.

When using the NEO iDSD 2 as a Hi-Fi, you can place it horizontally. It can serve as a pure DAC, playing all Hi-Res music files from PCM 32-bit/768kHz to DSD512 and full MQA decoding. You can also connect it directly to your power amplifier as a preamplifier, utilizing its analogue volume control.

1695384285204.png

GMT Femto-Precision Clock. Upgradable.​

The internal GMT femto-precision clock, combined with a smart storage cache, forms an advanced jitter reduction system. It effectively reduces jitter in the digital signal, producing cleaner and more accurate sound.
If you possess a more accurate external clock, or if you wish to synchronize with other devices such as CD players or network streamers that have an external clock input, you can connect both the NEO iDSD 2 and the other devices to the external clock via the 10MHz External Sync Clock input for even greater clock signal accuracy.
It’s rare to find an External Sync Clock input in this price range. Even if you don’t have an external clock, the internal GMT femto-precision clock still offers excellent performance in its class.

1695384354496.png

More than new features. Enhanced circuitry.​

The NEO iDSD 2’s enhanced PureWave circuit design, with its balanced dual-mono topology and short signal paths, is known for outstanding linearity and minimal noise and distortion, offering you exceptional sonic purity.

The results are an improved Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR) of >120dB(A), Dynamic Range (DNR) of -120dB(A), and Total Harmonic Distortion plus Noise (THD+N) of <0.0015%, bringing the NEO iDSD 2’s performance on par with DACs at a higher price point.

1695384511024.png

Introducing the new iFi Nexis App​

Introducing the iFi Nexis App for your NEO iDSD 2. Simply search for “NEO iDSD 2” in the app to access a suite of features and settings. Easily perform OTA upgrades, which automatically update your device over the network.
The app offers a convenient way to control your NEO iDSD 2, allowing you to adjust functions and settings with ease. Download the iFi Nexis App now and experience the full potential of your NEO iDSD 2.


Hi-res audio support is state-of-the-art with True Native® playback. It handles PCM data to 32-bit/768kHz, DSD up to DSD512 and single and double speed DXD.
Thanks to the Burr-Brown DAC chip’s four-channel True Native design, PCM and DSD take separate pathways – this enables DSD, as well as PCM, to remain ‘bit-perfect’ in its native form right through to analogue conversion. This is not the case with all DAC devices from other brands – even if DSD compatibility is stated, many such DACs convert DSD signals to PCM.


The XMOS 16-Core chip processes the audio data received via the USB* digital input.
This new low-latency XMOS microcontroller has greatly enhanced processing power. Compared to the current generation of eight-core chips, this new 16-core IC delivers double the clock speed (2000MIPS) and four times the memory (512KB), as well as the latest SuperSpeed USB standard.
iFi’s in-house digital development team has programmed the XMOS firmware to optimise sound quality and ensure a perfect partnership with the Burr-Brown DAC.
(* Also on S/PDIF on the NEO iDSD/Diablo)


MQA (Master Quality Authenticated) is supported through the USB with full decoding of MQA files up to 384kHz thanks to the processing power of the new 16-core XMOS chip.
Check out how to set up your MQA decoder via Tidal, Roon and Audirvana here.
This means that the full ‘three unfold’ decoding process is performed internally, as opposed to only the final unfold in the manner of an MQA ‘renderer’.
Globally, MQA has become an important consideration for any comprehensively equipped DAC. It is available through for Tidal Masters, Audirvana and Roon.


The Burr-Brown True Native® chipset means file formats remain unchanged or ‘bit-perfect’. This means you are listening to music as the artist intended in the format in which it was recorded.
At iFi we use Burr Brown extensively in our products having selected it for its natural-sounding ‘musicality’ and True Native architecture. Our experience with this IC means we know how to make the most of it.

1695665194076.png
We use Qualcomm’s new QCC518x Bluetooth processing IC in combination with proprietary circuits to create an audibly superior ‘Bluetooth engine’.

All the current high-definition Bluetooth audio formats are supported – Qualcomm’s aptX Loessless and aptX Adaptive, Sony’s LDAC and HWA’s LHDC, regular aptX, AAC (Apple iOS devices) and SBC (the ‘plain vanilla’ Bluetooth codec).
aptX Adaptive can stream audio up to 24-bit/96kHz and LDAC’s specification stretches up to 32-bit/96kHz – these are ‘lossy’ formats. aptX Lossless is the first Bluetooth audio format capable of streaming CD-quality (16-bit/44.1kHz) audio ‘losslessly’ (although technically it still applies some compression). It achieves bitrates of up to 1.2Mbps at CD-quality – that’s more than twice the maximum bitrate of aptX Adaptive and aptX HD, and roughly 20 per cent higher than LDAC’s maximum figure.


Extensive jitter-eradication technologies are applied to the digital stage, including our GMT (Global Master Timing) femto-precision clock and intelligent memory buffer. This represents a total ‘out-of-the-box’ systematic digital solution that solves jitter once and for all.


Balanced, differential analogue circuit design has long been championed for its ability to reduce noise and cross-talk within the signal path by fully separating the left and right channels.
PureWave is a new, balanced, symmetrical dual-mono topology with short, direct signal paths. The name refers to the sonic purity it achieves thanks to exceptional linearity and infinitesimally low levels of noise and distortion.


As with many other iFi audio products, we’ve incorporated a custom OV Series operational-amplifier. This top-notch component contributes to the extremely low noise, low distortion (0.0001%) and wide bandwidth.

Switching between settings has been engineered to ensure sonic transparency with advanced trench technology MOSFET is used as a muting switch.
This FET-based switching is handled by a micro-controller, which only ‘wakes up’ when the user changes a setting, thus eradicating any sonically deleterious interference.


TDK C0G (Class 1 ceramic) capacitors offer high stability and low losses for resonant circuit applications.
Getting ever closer to the theoretical ideal of pure, frequency-constant capacitance, these capacitors reduce capacitor-induced distortion to vanishingly low levels.
They are pricey but are a perfect addition to our products.

Extensive jitter-eradication technologies are applied to the digital stage, including our GMT (Global Master Timing) femto-precision clock and the intelligent memory buffer.
The low-jitter crystal clock has been updated to provide >20dB better performance

muRata control-type, low-ESR high-Q multi-layer capacitors. The ‘ESR control’ aspect of the Murata is something special. Their noise suppression abilities are impressive.


Texas Instruments low-noise ICs offer great unity-gain bandwidth, very low noise and distortion, high output drive capability, Common-mode and Power Supply Rejection Ratios of over 100 dB, wide maximum-output-swing bandwidths and high slew rates.

1695384973699.png


Here is a link to current APTx Lossless Products, Be sure "your device" is capable of this Codec before purchasing the iDSD 2 for this functionality...

This list is filtered by "phones" but can be used for other devices,

https://www.aptx.com/product-listin...x]=2023/09/31&sort_by=created&sort_order=DESC


Thanks for looking!

Cheers!!

NEO iDSD2
 
Feb 19, 2024 at 5:57 PM Post #206 of 252
Ifi audio neo 2
When ifi audio announced neo 2 I thought great few cosmetic changes plus losses Bluetooth hmmm....boy i was wrong 😌😆
Neo 2 it's not just pretty face yes it he's brand new display with nice icons and new buttons Infront of the unit . New cutout with frosted piece of plexiglass I think 🤔 for wifi and Bluetooth. It's a nice touch . Oh and app that control dac and it's functions really nicely done despite reminding me of classic iPod hahaha 🤣. Takes time to get used to but it's ok does it's job.

The iFi Audio iDSD Neo 2 DAC offers an exceptional audio experience that truly stands out.
It's In the midrange where ifi audio mesmorize and capture your attention. In my system with ls3/5a it's a welcome characteristic. Even without subwoofer in the mix You still have a feeling of low-end frequencies thanks to midrage richess .
ifi balanced DAC architecture ensures that each element of the music spectrum is well represented. It's tuning takes me back to original idsd but moves it up to a whole another level .
Neo 2 allows you to stay engaged in music for a long time it's quite infectious. Music feels right I know word organic is overused but this is how it feels.
Your brain register this as plesent and real experience. It's difficult to express without those pesky audiophile vocabulary .

To be honest Neo 2 performance is more in line with those big boys where are quite a few more zeros on the price tag . We really should judge equipment by it's performance, build quality etc not by price points .
Ok let's continue.....
The iDSD Neo 2 creates a spacious soundstage that give you that sense of depth and separation between instruments. (Breathing room ). Sound is nicely detached from speakers which creates sens of fulness and amplifies Dacs quite revealing nature so you will be aware of bad recordings but it does not take you away from enjoying your playlists so not to worry .

The inclusion of customizable digital filters allows users to tailor the sound to their preferences. Whether you prefer a more analytical sound or a warmer tone, these filters provide flexibility in tuning the DAC to your liking but I would not loose sleep over it . All of them will give you hours of great musical experience .
If I had to choose GTo filter give You edge especially with Spotify. You have to experiment here this type of filter is especially great with live jazz and instrumental music but not only of course .
You can control all dac functins from your phone 📱so it's easy and convenient to do so it's a nice touch .
Also worth mentioning that I'm using my tube preamp ( custom build ) with input -output transformers .This set up takes neo2 a level up in sound reproduction so it's important to sytem match or at least experiment with various types of components. There is no easy answer here what would work best.
Have some fun while doing it ...why not 😆 this is our hobby.

We have to talk about Bluetooth application here .
My phone does have LDAC but no lossles Bluetooth so same as regarded smsl m400 yet Ifi neo 2 can run circles around smsl simply there is no competition here .
Implementation of Bluetooth in neo 2 is astonishingly 😊 good.
Sound quality is on par with my optical wired Lan network and this 900kbs LDAc performance of Neo 2 is quite something . Well done Ifi I dont know how this is possible but Bluetooth in smsl is boring and bland in comparison 20 sec in and you say no thank you and you turn dac off. Well done Ifi well done .
This is with LDAC at 990kbs I can only imagine full losses experience now I can enjoy Spotify without my streamer with no loss in quality . You are future proof when your phone or tablet will allow for lossles Bluetooth transmition Very exciting .

I connected also ipower elite pro power supply for comparison and to my surrprise there was change or rather further improvement in sound quality .Now before some of You lose their mind 😜.... difference is evolutionary it's a one more step up the ladder of sound reproduction.
Elite power supply is beautifully design fully made a of aluminium and it's unconventional design give a straiking look tho the product . It's one of those products that deserve to be displayed your friends my even ask what's that ??? .
I wrote already about 12v version and everything is sill valid here.is a link

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QeJG1z1F5fd1woED/?mibextid=Nif5oz

Neo2 combo with elite pro power supply squeezes every ounce of performance out of already great musical product . There are moments when listening to 70 acid jazz those grungy electric guitars sound incredibly fun and engaging they have more of tube feel for lack of better word with lesser power supply this musical experience is slightly diminished. I'm not saying that sound is lesser in anyway just power elite provide very clean background and extra punch it's just like extra clean window 🪟 of musical experience.
Dynamically it feels like elite pro power allows neo2 to cruise with ease and every bass note have slightly more impact it makes for a vary engaging experience.

Sometimes I feel that this combo allow electronic music sound more layered and spred out a tad more room to breath 🫁 with jazz give you more intimate presentation .
Strangely you skip songs less and listen more to albums in their entirity .
I realise that elite pro with neo 2 represent investment but I would definitely consider here elite power supply it prove to be great addition to already great DAC with sound reproduction reaching very very high in audio quaility . This combo definitely gives a run for the money 🤑 to products in higher price brackets.
I should quickly mentioned here difference between neo2 ,wadia 121 with audiophile power supply and sms m400. Neo 2 definitely leaves smsl m400 in the dust in overall sound quality and it's Bluetooth application Neo2 is absolutely amazing.
Now between neo2 and wadia situation is a bit different.
Wadia 121 is much much older but with upgraded power supply it's a fenomenal performer. As for feature set neo2 is clear winner 🏆 no question asked . Wadia is simple no Bluetooth no DSD . When we compare them in terms of sound reproduction they much more comparable but not the same. I think it's all will depend on system synergy . Neo2 is punchy , energetic while wadia here is more reserved and polite feels like drummer does not hit with full force hahaha . Differences are subtle but they are there and rest of your system will decide which might be better fit. In my system I give eadge to Neo2 with that more energetic performance. Well done 👍 ifi because for those who know wadia this is a great compliment.


Thank you Ifi audio for continuously improving it's products and realy evolving them and not just throwing different version of the same . Neo 2 is reveling detailed but at the same time will keep you in the music 🎶 You will want to listen more ...and enjoy various styles of music . This is fantastic that we can enjoy hiend world of performance with Ifi audio . Truly thank you


Until next time keep enjoying those tunes 😁
Tom
 
Feb 20, 2024 at 7:56 AM Post #207 of 252
Ifi audio neo 2
When ifi audio announced neo 2 I thought great few cosmetic changes plus losses Bluetooth hmmm....boy i was wrong 😌😆
Neo 2 it's not just pretty face yes it he's brand new display with nice icons and new buttons Infront of the unit . New cutout with frosted piece of plexiglass I think 🤔 for wifi and Bluetooth. It's a nice touch . Oh and app that control dac and it's functions really nicely done despite reminding me of classic iPod hahaha 🤣. Takes time to get used to but it's ok does it's job.

The iFi Audio iDSD Neo 2 DAC offers an exceptional audio experience that truly stands out.
It's In the midrange where ifi audio mesmorize and capture your attention. In my system with ls3/5a it's a welcome characteristic. Even without subwoofer in the mix You still have a feeling of low-end frequencies thanks to midrage richess .
ifi balanced DAC architecture ensures that each element of the music spectrum is well represented. It's tuning takes me back to original idsd but moves it up to a whole another level .
Neo 2 allows you to stay engaged in music for a long time it's quite infectious. Music feels right I know word organic is overused but this is how it feels.
Your brain register this as plesent and real experience. It's difficult to express without those pesky audiophile vocabulary .

To be honest Neo 2 performance is more in line with those big boys where are quite a few more zeros on the price tag . We really should judge equipment by it's performance, build quality etc not by price points .
Ok let's continue.....
The iDSD Neo 2 creates a spacious soundstage that give you that sense of depth and separation between instruments. (Breathing room ). Sound is nicely detached from speakers which creates sens of fulness and amplifies Dacs quite revealing nature so you will be aware of bad recordings but it does not take you away from enjoying your playlists so not to worry .

The inclusion of customizable digital filters allows users to tailor the sound to their preferences. Whether you prefer a more analytical sound or a warmer tone, these filters provide flexibility in tuning the DAC to your liking but I would not loose sleep over it . All of them will give you hours of great musical experience .
If I had to choose GTo filter give You edge especially with Spotify. You have to experiment here this type of filter is especially great with live jazz and instrumental music but not only of course .
You can control all dac functins from your phone 📱so it's easy and convenient to do so it's a nice touch .
Also worth mentioning that I'm using my tube preamp ( custom build ) with input -output transformers .This set up takes neo2 a level up in sound reproduction so it's important to sytem match or at least experiment with various types of components. There is no easy answer here what would work best.
Have some fun while doing it ...why not 😆 this is our hobby.

We have to talk about Bluetooth application here .
My phone does have LDAC but no lossles Bluetooth so same as regarded smsl m400 yet Ifi neo 2 can run circles around smsl simply there is no competition here .
Implementation of Bluetooth in neo 2 is astonishingly 😊 good.
Sound quality is on par with my optical wired Lan network and this 900kbs LDAc performance of Neo 2 is quite something . Well done Ifi I dont know how this is possible but Bluetooth in smsl is boring and bland in comparison 20 sec in and you say no thank you and you turn dac off. Well done Ifi well done .
This is with LDAC at 990kbs I can only imagine full losses experience now I can enjoy Spotify without my streamer with no loss in quality . You are future proof when your phone or tablet will allow for lossles Bluetooth transmition Very exciting .

I connected also ipower elite pro power supply for comparison and to my surrprise there was change or rather further improvement in sound quality .Now before some of You lose their mind 😜.... difference is evolutionary it's a one more step up the ladder of sound reproduction.
Elite power supply is beautifully design fully made a of aluminium and it's unconventional design give a straiking look tho the product . It's one of those products that deserve to be displayed your friends my even ask what's that ??? .
I wrote already about 12v version and everything is sill valid here.is a link

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/QeJG1z1F5fd1woED/?mibextid=Nif5oz

Neo2 combo with elite pro power supply squeezes every ounce of performance out of already great musical product . There are moments when listening to 70 acid jazz those grungy electric guitars sound incredibly fun and engaging they have more of tube feel for lack of better word with lesser power supply this musical experience is slightly diminished. I'm not saying that sound is lesser in anyway just power elite provide very clean background and extra punch it's just like extra clean window 🪟 of musical experience.
Dynamically it feels like elite pro power allows neo2 to cruise with ease and every bass note have slightly more impact it makes for a vary engaging experience.

Sometimes I feel that this combo allow electronic music sound more layered and spred out a tad more room to breath 🫁 with jazz give you more intimate presentation .
Strangely you skip songs less and listen more to albums in their entirity .
I realise that elite pro with neo 2 represent investment but I would definitely consider here elite power supply it prove to be great addition to already great DAC with sound reproduction reaching very very high in audio quaility . This combo definitely gives a run for the money 🤑 to products in higher price brackets.
I should quickly mentioned here difference between neo2 ,wadia 121 with audiophile power supply and sms m400. Neo 2 definitely leaves smsl m400 in the dust in overall sound quality and it's Bluetooth application Neo2 is absolutely amazing.
Now between neo2 and wadia situation is a bit different.
Wadia 121 is much much older but with upgraded power supply it's a fenomenal performer. As for feature set neo2 is clear winner 🏆 no question asked . Wadia is simple no Bluetooth no DSD . When we compare them in terms of sound reproduction they much more comparable but not the same. I think it's all will depend on system synergy . Neo2 is punchy , energetic while wadia here is more reserved and polite feels like drummer does not hit with full force hahaha . Differences are subtle but they are there and rest of your system will decide which might be better fit. In my system I give eadge to Neo2 with that more energetic performance. Well done 👍 ifi because for those who know wadia this is a great compliment.


Thank you Ifi audio for continuously improving it's products and realy evolving them and not just throwing different version of the same . Neo 2 is reveling detailed but at the same time will keep you in the music 🎶 You will want to listen more ...and enjoy various styles of music . This is fantastic that we can enjoy hiend world of performance with Ifi audio . Truly thank you


Until next time keep enjoying those tunes 😁
Tom
Thanks so much for your thoughts and thorough review of the NEO iDSD 2!

It is very much appreciated and hopefully will benefit someone who is looking into the unit!

Cheers!!
 
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Feb 23, 2024 at 10:01 AM Post #208 of 252
The volume concern was the neo stream. It keeps getting kicked out of bit perfect.
If you're using Tidal app from an android device, the problem is the Tidal app, not the iFi DAC/AMPs. I've got the same problem with the Gryphon and i tested also on Ferrum ERCO: Tidal version 2.96 worked, but after it donesn't work anymore.
I contacted Tidal support for weeks, they are not able to fix it.

So I bought UAPP for Android and all is bit perfect now.
 
Mar 8, 2024 at 4:58 PM Post #209 of 252
Hi guys, just wanted to share my review on the neo idsd 2.


img_0130-2.jpeg



Introduction​

Hi Guys,

Today we are taking a look at the fairly recently released DAC/Amp combo unit from iFi, the Neo iDSD 2. I reviewed the first Neo iDSD a couple of years ago, so I was looking forward to hearing how the second incarnation had changed and how it stacked up compared to its predecessor. For the rest of this review, I’ll refer to the unit as the Neo 2.

The Neo 2 has some big changes in comparison to the Neo 1, but in terms of looks, it is fairly similar. It can be used either horizontally or vertically, which is handy for tight spaces on desks, and has an upgraded display compared to the original model. The most notable feature change for the Neo 2 is a vastly more robust headphone amplifier section. I think this amplifier section must be very closely related to the amplifier section in the iDSD Diablo 2, with very similar output power and sonics. iFi lists the output power in a similar fashion to their other products in terms of peak output, and RMS output, and from the balanced output (4.4mm) you are looking at 5551mw at 32ohms peak and 2,832mw at 32ohms RMS. The Neo 2 also features aptX lossless Bluetooth, as well as iFi Xbass and 3D sound features, though these are now called XSpace and Xbass 2 on this unit. On the rear of the unit, you have RCA outputs and full-size XLR outputs. In terms of inputs, there is a 3.5mm analog input for using only the amplifier section, a SPDIF optical input, a SPDIF coaxial input, a USB input, a BNC clock sync input, and a DC 9V power input. On the front of the unit, there are a few more buttons than the Neo 1, allowing you to toggle gain, Xbass 2, XSpace, and Bluetooth features. There are also the 4.4mm headphones output and the 6.35mm headphone output.

img_0132.jpeg



I’ve done a ton of testing with this unit both as a headphone amplifier, as a DAC and as a DAC/Amp combo unit. I will do three sections following addressing the performance in each area.

DAC​

As a DAC only, the Neo IDSD is a very capable unit. Although you don’t have the tube section and all of the extra features of the Pro iDSD, the Neo 2 does nicely improve on other iFi units like the ZenDAC. As a DAC only, the Neo 2 does sound very slightly warm in the low mid-range, with good clarity across the entire frequency response. The treble has a small amount of sparkle to it, but I wouldn’t describe it as bright or possessing spikes that can be grating over time. One thing that is nice about the Neo 2 as a DAC is it can also be used as a preamp with variable volume control. This allows slightly more freedom with the use case of the unit and can be used as a DAC/Pre into a standalone power amplifier if needed. Overall detail levels as a pure DAC are totally within what should be expected from a unit of this price point, and perhaps slightly beyond. In terms of overall performance as a DAC compared to the Neo 1, the Neo 2 is very similar. With that being said, I do still feel that the Neo series does make a better case for its use as a DAC/Amp combo unit, and this particularly applies to the Neo 2 given the improved head amp section with this incarnation. The DAC section of the Neo 2 features the standard filter options that most iFi DACs have – Standard, Bit Perfect, Minimum, and GTO. I prefer the GTO filter, which is short for Gibbs Transient-Optimised. Since I first heard this filter on the original Pro iDSD, it has been my favourite option of the iFi filter types. It seems to have the best balance between all the options and helps keep a clear incisive leading edge of all the notes, which helps things sound a bit cleaner and more detailed. I would recommend trying all the various filters, however, and going with the one that you feel works best for your ears.

Amp​

As an amp only, the Neo 2 is incredibly similar to the iDSD Diablo 2, which I reviewed recently. Although I wasn’t a huge fan of that unit in an overall sense, it didn’t really have anything to do with the overall sonic performance of the Diablo 2, and due to that, I’m very happy to see the Neo 2 utilizing what I am guessing is a very similar headamp section. It is much more powerful than the Neo 1. With the Diablo 2 in combination with the LCD-5, due to its uncharacteristically low impedance (14 ohms), I ran into the current protection of the Diablo 2 from the 4.4mm output. This never happened with the Neo 2 on the 4.4mm output, and I think this might have to do with the fact it is running from a 9v wallwart, vs a 5v wallwart/battery in the Diablo 2. The Neo 2 headamp section has a very neutral presentation verging on bright in the treble. It is very solid in terms of impact, drive, and detail levels. I definitely felt the amplifier section was slightly more detailed than the Neo 1’s headamp section. Another thing to mention is the variable gain levels. You can use iFi’s ieMatch (-12dB) with sensitive IEMs, and then there are regular gain levels of 0dB, 9dB, and 16dB. On the Neo 2, these settings are called Normal, Turbo, and Nitro. As with the Diablo 2 review, I am hoping iFi standardizes their gain naming conventions, perhaps returning to normal, high, and turbo. “Nitro” which used to be called Turbo, on the Diablo 2 is 18dB, but on the Neo 2, it’s 16 dB, so it can all get a bit confusing. The Neo 2’s headamp section will comfortably drive most headphones on the market, though if you want to push the volume high with something like the HE6, or Susvara, you might start running into its limits. Those are pretty unusual use-case scenarios for the Neo 2 however, and with pretty much all other headphones you will be totally fine in terms of power and gain. the Neo 2’s amplifier section is very solid in performance, and I could certainly see someone using it as their only source for headphones, especially if their desk space is limited.

DAC/Amp​

In my opinion, this is the use case where the Neo 2 really shines. The very neutral, almost bright amplifier section combines with the slightly warm DAC section and ends up with a very pleasing balanced frequency response. There is a small amount of sparkle in the treble, and a little bit of warmth in the low end. It’s a very easy-going sound signature, and it is incredibly easy to enjoy. I never found myself thinking it was overly analytical or boring, as some setups can be. The detail levels and technical performance are totally in line with a product of this price point, but the unit also has all of the typical features iFi products have, which helps make them real Swiss army knives in terms of usability. When you combine this with the much more powerful headamp section of the Neo 2 vs the Neo 1, there really isn’t much this unit can’t do, and it sounds good doing it!

img_0129.jpeg

Build Quality​

The build quality of the Neo 2 is pretty much exactly the same as the Neo 1. A metal shell that feels well put together. I had zero problems over my time with the unit, and it doesn’t feel flimsy or like it will break at any moment. I really do like the ability to use it either lying horizontally or vertically, and I think that vertical use will be especially helpful for those who have limited desktop real estate available.

Settings/Bluetooth​

I am very much a fan of wired use of DACs and Amps, but the Neo 2 does have aptX Lossless Bluetooth. I did give this a try for a week and I thought it worked well. I didn’t have any problems with pairing my devices, which was all fairly self-explanatory after the first time you do it. The sound quality was also really good for Bluetooth, though I do still think I heard some difference between a wired connection and the Bluetooth option. Perhaps that was in my head however, I’m certainly open to that being true. I think for most people, this will be a personal preference, and for some, the lack of cables and clutter will outweigh any possible difference in sonic quality. It is certainly worth trying out, and seeing what you think of the feature. The XBass 2 feature has a couple different settings to try. There is Xbass, which is just a bass boost, great for those who enjoy a more than neutral bass response. There is Xbass Presence, which increases the upper midrange. It helps add more smack to snare drums, brings out vocals, but can also be too much and make things a bit shouty. This isn’t a feature I particularly enjoy, but I know some people will absolutely love it, I would recommend trying it out and seeing what you think. Then there is Xbass + Presence, which enables both settings. There is also iFi’s 3D setting, which is called XSpace on the Neo2. This is a form of crossfeed, which can help with hard-panned recordings and old mono recordings. I’m not a fan of it on more modern recordings, as I feel it does the opposite of expanding the sound, but I know that some people really enjoy this take on crossfeed, so again, I’d recommend trying it out and seeing what you personally think.

img_0133.jpeg

Conclusion​

Now, in my iDSD Diablo 2 review, I wasn’t very complimentary and wasn’t a huge fan of the unit. The Neo 2 is a much better piece of equipment in my opinion. It wasn’t that the sonic performance of the Diablo 2 was poor, and I mentioned that in that review. I felt it cost too much at MSRP and did not offer a real tangible improvement over its predecessor. Thankfully, with the Neo 2, none of those concerns are present. The Neo 2 is retailing at $899USD, which whilst not cheap, is less of a jump than the Diablo 2 at its new $1399MSRP. I’d have loved to see the Neo 2 priced at $799USD, but $899 is ok. The Neo 2 also offers refinements in terms of the features offered, the DAC performance being similar but slightly better than the Neo 1. Most importantly the headphone amplifier section of the Neo 2 is a massive improvement over the Neo 1, and that alone justifies its creation as a new product. If you are a user who simply wants a small, transportable, well-built, somewhat more affordable, desktop DAC/Amp unit for headphones, the Neo 2 is incredibly compelling. If you combine that with the fact it can be used as a DAC/Preamp into a pair of powered desktop monitors, it really makes a case for its use as an all-in-one sound center for a desktop setup that doesn’t break the bank (too badly at least.) Overall, I think the Neo 2 is a good addition to iFi’s product range. Apart from the gain naming scheme, there isn’t much I didn’t like about the Neo 2. I hope iFi continues with this sort of improvements to their lineup, and that the Diablo 2 was a blip on the radar because pieces of gear like the Neo 2 are where iFi shines brightest, in my humble opinion. Good stuff iFi!
 
Mar 11, 2024 at 12:01 PM Post #210 of 252
Hi guys, just wanted to share my review on the neo idsd 2.


img_0130-2.jpeg



Introduction​

Hi Guys,

Today we are taking a look at the fairly recently released DAC/Amp combo unit from iFi, the Neo iDSD 2. I reviewed the first Neo iDSD a couple of years ago, so I was looking forward to hearing how the second incarnation had changed and how it stacked up compared to its predecessor. For the rest of this review, I’ll refer to the unit as the Neo 2.

The Neo 2 has some big changes in comparison to the Neo 1, but in terms of looks, it is fairly similar. It can be used either horizontally or vertically, which is handy for tight spaces on desks, and has an upgraded display compared to the original model. The most notable feature change for the Neo 2 is a vastly more robust headphone amplifier section. I think this amplifier section must be very closely related to the amplifier section in the iDSD Diablo 2, with very similar output power and sonics. iFi lists the output power in a similar fashion to their other products in terms of peak output, and RMS output, and from the balanced output (4.4mm) you are looking at 5551mw at 32ohms peak and 2,832mw at 32ohms RMS. The Neo 2 also features aptX lossless Bluetooth, as well as iFi Xbass and 3D sound features, though these are now called XSpace and Xbass 2 on this unit. On the rear of the unit, you have RCA outputs and full-size XLR outputs. In terms of inputs, there is a 3.5mm analog input for using only the amplifier section, a SPDIF optical input, a SPDIF coaxial input, a USB input, a BNC clock sync input, and a DC 9V power input. On the front of the unit, there are a few more buttons than the Neo 1, allowing you to toggle gain, Xbass 2, XSpace, and Bluetooth features. There are also the 4.4mm headphones output and the 6.35mm headphone output.

img_0132.jpeg



I’ve done a ton of testing with this unit both as a headphone amplifier, as a DAC and as a DAC/Amp combo unit. I will do three sections following addressing the performance in each area.

DAC​

As a DAC only, the Neo IDSD is a very capable unit. Although you don’t have the tube section and all of the extra features of the Pro iDSD, the Neo 2 does nicely improve on other iFi units like the ZenDAC. As a DAC only, the Neo 2 does sound very slightly warm in the low mid-range, with good clarity across the entire frequency response. The treble has a small amount of sparkle to it, but I wouldn’t describe it as bright or possessing spikes that can be grating over time. One thing that is nice about the Neo 2 as a DAC is it can also be used as a preamp with variable volume control. This allows slightly more freedom with the use case of the unit and can be used as a DAC/Pre into a standalone power amplifier if needed. Overall detail levels as a pure DAC are totally within what should be expected from a unit of this price point, and perhaps slightly beyond. In terms of overall performance as a DAC compared to the Neo 1, the Neo 2 is very similar. With that being said, I do still feel that the Neo series does make a better case for its use as a DAC/Amp combo unit, and this particularly applies to the Neo 2 given the improved head amp section with this incarnation. The DAC section of the Neo 2 features the standard filter options that most iFi DACs have – Standard, Bit Perfect, Minimum, and GTO. I prefer the GTO filter, which is short for Gibbs Transient-Optimised. Since I first heard this filter on the original Pro iDSD, it has been my favourite option of the iFi filter types. It seems to have the best balance between all the options and helps keep a clear incisive leading edge of all the notes, which helps things sound a bit cleaner and more detailed. I would recommend trying all the various filters, however, and going with the one that you feel works best for your ears.

Amp​

As an amp only, the Neo 2 is incredibly similar to the iDSD Diablo 2, which I reviewed recently. Although I wasn’t a huge fan of that unit in an overall sense, it didn’t really have anything to do with the overall sonic performance of the Diablo 2, and due to that, I’m very happy to see the Neo 2 utilizing what I am guessing is a very similar headamp section. It is much more powerful than the Neo 1. With the Diablo 2 in combination with the LCD-5, due to its uncharacteristically low impedance (14 ohms), I ran into the current protection of the Diablo 2 from the 4.4mm output. This never happened with the Neo 2 on the 4.4mm output, and I think this might have to do with the fact it is running from a 9v wallwart, vs a 5v wallwart/battery in the Diablo 2. The Neo 2 headamp section has a very neutral presentation verging on bright in the treble. It is very solid in terms of impact, drive, and detail levels. I definitely felt the amplifier section was slightly more detailed than the Neo 1’s headamp section. Another thing to mention is the variable gain levels. You can use iFi’s ieMatch (-12dB) with sensitive IEMs, and then there are regular gain levels of 0dB, 9dB, and 16dB. On the Neo 2, these settings are called Normal, Turbo, and Nitro. As with the Diablo 2 review, I am hoping iFi standardizes their gain naming conventions, perhaps returning to normal, high, and turbo. “Nitro” which used to be called Turbo, on the Diablo 2 is 18dB, but on the Neo 2, it’s 16 dB, so it can all get a bit confusing. The Neo 2’s headamp section will comfortably drive most headphones on the market, though if you want to push the volume high with something like the HE6, or Susvara, you might start running into its limits. Those are pretty unusual use-case scenarios for the Neo 2 however, and with pretty much all other headphones you will be totally fine in terms of power and gain. the Neo 2’s amplifier section is very solid in performance, and I could certainly see someone using it as their only source for headphones, especially if their desk space is limited.

DAC/Amp​

In my opinion, this is the use case where the Neo 2 really shines. The very neutral, almost bright amplifier section combines with the slightly warm DAC section and ends up with a very pleasing balanced frequency response. There is a small amount of sparkle in the treble, and a little bit of warmth in the low end. It’s a very easy-going sound signature, and it is incredibly easy to enjoy. I never found myself thinking it was overly analytical or boring, as some setups can be. The detail levels and technical performance are totally in line with a product of this price point, but the unit also has all of the typical features iFi products have, which helps make them real Swiss army knives in terms of usability. When you combine this with the much more powerful headamp section of the Neo 2 vs the Neo 1, there really isn’t much this unit can’t do, and it sounds good doing it!

img_0129.jpeg

Build Quality​

The build quality of the Neo 2 is pretty much exactly the same as the Neo 1. A metal shell that feels well put together. I had zero problems over my time with the unit, and it doesn’t feel flimsy or like it will break at any moment. I really do like the ability to use it either lying horizontally or vertically, and I think that vertical use will be especially helpful for those who have limited desktop real estate available.

Settings/Bluetooth​

I am very much a fan of wired use of DACs and Amps, but the Neo 2 does have aptX Lossless Bluetooth. I did give this a try for a week and I thought it worked well. I didn’t have any problems with pairing my devices, which was all fairly self-explanatory after the first time you do it. The sound quality was also really good for Bluetooth, though I do still think I heard some difference between a wired connection and the Bluetooth option. Perhaps that was in my head however, I’m certainly open to that being true. I think for most people, this will be a personal preference, and for some, the lack of cables and clutter will outweigh any possible difference in sonic quality. It is certainly worth trying out, and seeing what you think of the feature. The XBass 2 feature has a couple different settings to try. There is Xbass, which is just a bass boost, great for those who enjoy a more than neutral bass response. There is Xbass Presence, which increases the upper midrange. It helps add more smack to snare drums, brings out vocals, but can also be too much and make things a bit shouty. This isn’t a feature I particularly enjoy, but I know some people will absolutely love it, I would recommend trying it out and seeing what you think. Then there is Xbass + Presence, which enables both settings. There is also iFi’s 3D setting, which is called XSpace on the Neo2. This is a form of crossfeed, which can help with hard-panned recordings and old mono recordings. I’m not a fan of it on more modern recordings, as I feel it does the opposite of expanding the sound, but I know that some people really enjoy this take on crossfeed, so again, I’d recommend trying it out and seeing what you personally think.

img_0133.jpeg

Conclusion​

Now, in my iDSD Diablo 2 review, I wasn’t very complimentary and wasn’t a huge fan of the unit. The Neo 2 is a much better piece of equipment in my opinion. It wasn’t that the sonic performance of the Diablo 2 was poor, and I mentioned that in that review. I felt it cost too much at MSRP and did not offer a real tangible improvement over its predecessor. Thankfully, with the Neo 2, none of those concerns are present. The Neo 2 is retailing at $899USD, which whilst not cheap, is less of a jump than the Diablo 2 at its new $1399MSRP. I’d have loved to see the Neo 2 priced at $799USD, but $899 is ok. The Neo 2 also offers refinements in terms of the features offered, the DAC performance being similar but slightly better than the Neo 1. Most importantly the headphone amplifier section of the Neo 2 is a massive improvement over the Neo 1, and that alone justifies its creation as a new product. If you are a user who simply wants a small, transportable, well-built, somewhat more affordable, desktop DAC/Amp unit for headphones, the Neo 2 is incredibly compelling. If you combine that with the fact it can be used as a DAC/Preamp into a pair of powered desktop monitors, it really makes a case for its use as an all-in-one sound center for a desktop setup that doesn’t break the bank (too badly at least.) Overall, I think the Neo 2 is a good addition to iFi’s product range. Apart from the gain naming scheme, there isn’t much I didn’t like about the Neo 2. I hope iFi continues with this sort of improvements to their lineup, and that the Diablo 2 was a blip on the radar because pieces of gear like the Neo 2 are where iFi shines brightest, in my humble opinion. Good stuff iFi!
Thanks so much for taking the time to give the NEO 2 a review, your thoughts, and impressions are appreciated!

I have only had a short time with my NEO 2 but I am enjoying it very much!

Cheers!!

Bubba
 
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