iFi iDSD Micro DSD512 / PCM768 DAC and Headphone Amp. Impressions, Reviews and Comments.
Jan 5, 2016 at 10:38 AM Post #5,041 of 9,047
  What's the best dsd/music player apps for android?

 
USB Audio Player Pro isn't bad either. It probably has the most advanced features of all music app that works with USB DAC, but there is a slightly deeper learning curve.
 
Jan 5, 2016 at 11:42 AM Post #5,042 of 9,047
 
Hi,
 
Go to:
 
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And open a ticket and one of our staff will send through the pdf.
 
Thanks!

I'm loving that tip, my mp3's have new life!
 
Jan 5, 2016 at 12:00 PM Post #5,043 of 9,047
Hi guys,

How to connect ifi micro idsd to ps3? Ps3 has optical out.

 
 
   
With TOSlink (optical) cable of course, though I do believe you will need to disable multi channel output in PS3 for it to work with micro iDSD - can't confirm this as I don't own PS3.

 
As ClieOS says but you'll also need to power it through USB (using a PS3 USB socket?) as it will eventually run out of battery.
 
Jan 5, 2016 at 6:05 PM Post #5,044 of 9,047
Thank you guys. Really appreciate it.
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Jan 5, 2016 at 8:53 PM Post #5,048 of 9,047
i thought the same way too, but when I use different dap as transporter things change. Some give more bass and some more high. The different is very noticeable.


Using a line out I could see that as you would still be using the dac (and maybe even amp if it is a crappy lo) on the transport. However, if you are merely using coax or optical out only the data is sent to the micro so I don't see how the sound could be affected.
 
Jan 5, 2016 at 9:50 PM Post #5,049 of 9,047
Using a line out I could see that as you would still be using the dac (and maybe even amp if it is a crappy lo) on the transport. However, if you are merely using coax or optical out only the data is sent to the micro so I don't see how the sound could be affected.


I am using coax out, yet it still can feel the different. For eq, yesterday i test fiio x5ii, cayenne n5 and ibasso dx80 all coax out.  All give different sq and the closest to laptop+jriver is cabin n5. Overall still lack of details, soundstage and clean. 
 
before that i do have tried line out before, can't even last 1 song i put it back. fyi they give me quite decent cable not stock cable.
 
Jan 5, 2016 at 9:54 PM Post #5,050 of 9,047
   
 
Hi,
 
We use Sony Android phones (and apple iPhone). For the Sony, any of the Z series will work and they take SD micro cards. You need an OTG cable (though max SD capacity will vary between early and later models).
 
Like this:
 

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How about Sony xperia z3 tablet? SQ good, i try on many portable dap with coax out sq really not on par. 
 
Jan 5, 2016 at 10:04 PM Post #5,051 of 9,047
   
 
 
As ClieOS says but you'll also need to power it through USB (using a PS3 USB socket?) as it will eventually run out of battery.

 
That might not work as iDSD will always choose USB connection over SPDIF  - so once you plug both in, iDSD will not pick up the optical signal until you disconnected the USB.
 
 
Anyone using android tablet as transporter? how' the SQ compare with window laptop/desktop?

 
With the right app, Android will sound just as good as any Windows setup - by 'right app', I mean either Onkyo HF Player, USB Audio Player Pro or HibyMusic - those app will bypass any limitation set by Android itself and give you the full experience.
 
 
How about Sony xperia z3 tablet? SQ good, i try on many portable dap with coax out sq really not on par. 

 
Z3 tablet is fine - in fact it should work with iDSD even without any of the app mentioned above. Sony probably has the best audio driver implementation of any Android smartphone in the market. Still, I'll encourage you to try the apps I mentioned above.
 
Jan 6, 2016 at 3:11 AM Post #5,052 of 9,047
 
How about Sony xperia z3 tablet? SQ good, i try on many portable dap with coax out sq really not on par. 

 
Hi,
 
You have to try the Z, Ultra, Z2, Z3, Z4 and Z5 and find what you like.  Personal taste (eg screen size) and cost are what it comes down to.
 
Enjoy!
 
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Jan 6, 2016 at 6:48 AM Post #5,053 of 9,047
   
Hi,
 
It does if set to DoP, which of course limits DSD to DSD256.
 
The ASIO 2.2 Spec from Steinberg (downloadable from http://www.steinberg.net/en/company/developers.html) references only 44.1kHz based DSD.  Steinberg in turn references Sony. So strictly speaking 48kHz based DSD is not "legal" under ASIO Specifications up to Version 2.3.
 
We agree that all of this is a bit silly, but short of having someone write a one-off Driver, which then would not be ASIO compliant to the letter of the spec, this is the situation we are left with. 

Hi,
 
IMVHO, while strict compliance with the standard may be very important for a "sender" application/device which should not send "illegal" data (foo_asio_proxy, HQPlayer, etc
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)), I think it shouldn't be so important for a "receiver" such as as device driver as long as it means going beyond the specs (ie adding more functions/modes) as long as it meets all required functionality ensuring full compatibility with other ASIO compliant players. The Amanero driver supports 48x DSD in native mode ASIO as well as the legal 44,1K based and I've never heard of any problem caused by this "illegality". DSD1793 specs state it should top at 192K but we know it can go way beyond.... same with ASIO, a different matter is whether XMOS wants to add this funcionalityor not....hope at some point they decide to add it, it should be that much work.
 

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