iFi iDSD Micro DSD512 / PCM768 DAC and Headphone Amp. Impressions, Reviews and Comments.
Apr 9, 2015 at 4:53 AM Post #3,421 of 9,047
 
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  1) Version 4.8 Beta - Output audio for Android if you encounter lack of compatibility with Device X and Spotify/Tidal* etc., USB Host mode remains required. 
 
  1. Devices tested so far Sony Xperia Z Ultra and Samsung Galaxy S4, allows system audio, including Games and Android Music Playback via iFi iDSD etc.
  2. We have developed a Firmware workaround that enables this for several Android Phones in our possession, but need wider testing.

Wow great! I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 and I use UAPP with the micro iDSD, with a coming support for other normal apps would be great! Do you have on the Samsung Galaxy S4 still Android 4.4.x or already 5.x for your testing?
 
I know this is a Beta and pretty new, but do you exept a time line for the public release of this huge improvement for Android users? Thanks.

 
I would also like to know which flavour Android this was tested with on the S4. I have a Note 3 running 4.4.2 and don't want to upgrade to the new "flat" design ethic (which I find really ugly). Don't have the micro yet, but am seriously considering it. System audio with my Note 3 would be a factor in my buying decision.
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 12:09 PM Post #3,423 of 9,047
  Wow great! I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 and I use UAPP with the micro iDSD, with a coming support for other normal apps would be great! Do you have on the Samsung Galaxy S4 still Android 4.4.x or already 5.x for your testing?
 
I know this is a Beta and pretty new, but do you exept a time line for the public release of this huge improvement for Android users? Thanks.

The Galaxy S4 tested is on 4.4.2, the Sony Xperia Z Ultra and Xperia Z1 that have been tested are on 4.4.4. No tests with 5.X yet.
 
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Apr 9, 2015 at 12:11 PM Post #3,424 of 9,047
 
I believe this firmware 4.8.4  does nothing for the Micro as far as DoP goes as it already has DoP up to DSD 256. T.his is primarily for the Nano.

 
4.8.0/4.8.4 Beta are based on a completely new core code. So they may (or may not) resolve any small niggles around USB.
 
Key changes from our end are around the changeover from PCM to DSD and from DSD to PCM and the fix for Android support, as well as the support DSD256 via DoP for iDSD nano. 
 
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Apr 9, 2015 at 12:16 PM Post #3,425 of 9,047
  Thank you iFI for the Mac support although HQplayer supports the iDSD micro DoP up to DSD256.  I hope that the official firmware release will address the USB issues of it loosing lock intermittently and have to unplug USB and reconnect to resolve the issue.  Miska the developer of HQplayer has had the same issue as well and I'm sure I'm not the only one who have issue with the USB?

Please open a support ticket.
 
http://support.ifi-audio.com/
 
We have very few reports of this. We have not been able to replicate this problem on our test systems at this point in time.
 
So far all reports appear to come from users of one specific (and obscure) playback software on a specific OS. 
 
There is not enough data at this point in time to point fingers anywhere, be it hardware, firmware, OS or playback software, except to state that for most people on most OS and Playback software this problem does not seem to exist and that the firmware in our testing is extremely stable and resillient, including running non-stop for very extended periods of time. 
 
So if you do have this issue, please help us to help you and others with this problem to identify the source, by letting us have your setup details (precise revisions etc. of all relevant software), background as to under what circumstances this happens, how to provoke the problem explicitly (if possible), etc. to help us to get to the bottom of this. 
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Thanks!
 
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Apr 9, 2015 at 2:21 PM Post #3,426 of 9,047
  Please open a support ticket.
 
http://support.ifi-audio.com/
 
We have very few reports of this. We have not been able to replicate this problem on our test systems at this point in time.
 
So far all reports appear to come from users of one specific (and obscure) playback software on a specific OS. 
 
There is not enough data at this point in time to point fingers anywhere, be it hardware, firmware, OS or playback software, except to state that for most people on most OS and Playback software this problem does not seem to exist and that the firmware in our testing is extremely stable and resillient, including running non-stop for very extended periods of time. 
 
So if you do have this issue, please help us to help you and others with this problem to identify the source, by letting us have your setup details (precise revisions etc. of all relevant software), background as to under what circumstances this happens, how to provoke the problem explicitly (if possible), etc. to help us to get to the bottom of this. 
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Thanks!


I created a ticket and hopefully my detailed report will help to find a solution?  Thank you for your support! :wink:
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 3:33 PM Post #3,427 of 9,047
can anyone who owns this product with the LCD-X comment on the combination?
 
I'm in particular worried about the high efficiency of the LCD-X -- my reasoning is that to get the full dynamics out of the iFi, I must not run on ECO mode. But if I run on normal mode, it may just be too loud for comfort on LCDX because there is channel imbalance below 9 O clock.
 
For my LCD-2, just barely am I running the volume I want on normal mode, without slipping into the channel imbalance area. But if I run ECO mode on LCD-2, clearly there are reduced dynamics.
 
Thanks! 
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 5:29 PM Post #3,428 of 9,047
neither noozoxide nor viper4android work with my rooted z ultra rom 4.4.4 connected to my ifi  micro dsd when i use onkyo or usb app player
 
i dont know why
 
although i tried compatibilty mode in viper4android and also in noozxide i chose it in sound effect and it does not work 
 
 really wish for a processing app for my android phone to work with idsd 
 
very frustrating to deal with android and usb dacs
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 8:12 PM Post #3,429 of 9,047
Just got a new iFi iDSD Micro today. After I fully charged the unit, hook it up with Macbook Pro 2013 via USB, no sound? Music plays through the computer speakers though. What did I do wrong? Need adapter?
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 8:18 PM Post #3,430 of 9,047
can anyone who owns this product with the LCD-X comment on the combination?

I'm in particular worried about the high efficiency of the LCD-X -- my reasoning is that to get the full dynamics out of the iFi, I must not run on ECO mode. But if I run on normal mode, it may just be too loud for comfort on LCDX because there is channel imbalance below 9 O clock.

For my LCD-2, just barely am I running the volume I want on normal mode, without slipping into the channel imbalance area. But if I run ECO mode on LCD-2, clearly there are reduced dynamics.

Thanks! 


I listened to the lcd-2/x/XC all on the ifi, and while the 2 needed turbo, the x and xc did just fine on normal. I don't know why you'd go Eco, unless you were just trying to save battery. I primarily used the lcd-x with turbo and it was great.
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 8:24 PM Post #3,431 of 9,047
  Just got a new iFi iDSD Micro today. After I fully charged the unit, hook it up with Macbook Pro 2013 via USB, no sound? Music plays through the computer speakers though. What did I do wrong? Need adapter?


Not to be insulting, but do you know how to select the sound output device using System Preferences | Sound?
 
In case not, launch the System Preferences app and chose the Sound option.  On the Output tab, is your new iFi Micro listed as a choice?  If not, it is not being recognized and there is additional troubleshooting needed.  If it is listed, you should be able to select it and any app producing sound should begin playing through the Micro.
 
Note that some applications (e.g., JRiver Media Center, TIDAL desktop app, etc.) have their own internal settings to select the output device.  What application(s) are you using to output sound?
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 8:29 PM Post #3,432 of 9,047
  can anyone who owns this product with the LCD-X comment on the combination?
 
I'm in particular worried about the high efficiency of the LCD-X -- my reasoning is that to get the full dynamics out of the iFi, I must not run on ECO mode. But if I run on normal mode, it may just be too loud for comfort on LCDX because there is channel imbalance below 9 O clock.
 
For my LCD-2, just barely am I running the volume I want on normal mode, without slipping into the channel imbalance area. But if I run ECO mode on LCD-2, clearly there are reduced dynamics.
 
Thanks! 

I have experienced this same phenomenon when using my Sennheiser HD650 in ECO mode as well. Normal mode sounds better but I too suffer with that 9 0'clock channel imbalance.  My DT880 600 ohm on the other hand needs NORMAL mode due to it's higher power requirement.  ECO mode will drive the DT880 quite loud when reaching 3 o'clock position, but again suffers that same reduction in dynamics when compared to NORMAL mode.
 
Have you tried engaging the IEM attenuation settings under the unit while in NORMAL mode to reduce the volume with your LCD-X?  This may resolve your channel imbalance issue while still maintaining the better sound quality that NORMAL mode offers.
 
I wish iFi had replaced the turbo mode switch position with class A operation.  The battery life would remain about the same however, sound quality would be much higher while still being able to drive a decent selection of headphones, particularly IEM's.  I guess they wanted to tout a 4 watt output instead...
 
Apr 9, 2015 at 11:44 PM Post #3,434 of 9,047
Just upgraded my T-mobile note 3 to stock android 5.0
 
My ifi idsd micro played mostly fine over usb using the stock music player on android 4.4 prior to upgrade.
 
Now getting either:
choppy, superfast playback
or (when it plays ok) constant clicking and popping noises
 
Stopping/starting the music or turning the idsd micro off/on cures the fast playback issue but the clicks n pops are still there.
 
I've tried the stock music player and Jet Audio Plus
tried rebooting the note 3
also tried 2 different usb otg cables
 
The idsd sometimes shows a blue light like its charging but the light is yellow during playback.
 
Any ideas?
 
Apr 10, 2015 at 2:15 AM Post #3,435 of 9,047
Android 5 is currently bugged as hell (I'm still on 4.4.4, I don't want to upgrade to 5), if on 4.4.4 it worked for you and now it's broken you have your (sad) answer. Maybe with Android 5.1 or higher this will be fixed.
 

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