iFi iDSD Micro DSD512 / PCM768 DAC and Headphone Amp. Impressions, Reviews and Comments.

Feb 5, 2015 at 1:26 AM Post #2,656 of 9,047
I'm considering a Schiit Wyrd which has a data reclocker and as well as a filtered power supply. Anyone with experience with this at $99 with the iDSD? http://www.audiostream.com/content/collection-usb-audio-enhancement-products


I have! I didn't like what seemed to be an extra bass response with the Wyrd, coming out of the iDSD. I had read about that extra bass, and I thought it might be just people's cans, but having the Wyrd and the iUSB Power, side by side, to audition, I felt that I was still mainlining the straight music with iUSB Power, while with the Wyrd I was getting some type of extra processing that didn't seem natural.

Take what I say with a grain if salt, though. On the other hand, know that I auditioned both with my HD800s, so if I'm hearing too much bass in cans that are known for "lack of bass," then we're probably bordering on a Beats by Dre sound signature. People dig that, though.

Reclocking? I know what that means, but I still can't figure out the benefit in a circuit that simple.
 
Feb 5, 2015 at 12:26 PM Post #2,657 of 9,047
   
It all depends on your computer. in JRiver, using ASIO, the buffer size is recommended at 500 milliseconds. In the iFi driver settings, this greatly depends. Optimally, for the best sound and clocking, your USB Streaming Mode will be set to: Minimum Latency. The only way to tell if your machine can handle it, is to listen. If you hear no clicks, pops, skips in the songs, then you're probably good at Minimum Latency. But also consider the ASIO buffer size, which recommended at 8192 samples.
 
You will only know by trying. Start off with 2048 samples and "Safe" USB Streaming Mode. If you could none of the aforementioned problems, then kick it up a notch to 4096 samples and "Reliable" in the USB Streaming Mode. While you're doing this, you can always check your CPU usage, by going to your task manager and check. You can even go to the resource monitor and double check. In other words, if you're trying to get to Minimum Latency and 8192 samples, you can see how much CPU and memory your machine is using to process all of this data.
 
For instance, me, I might peak out at 23% CPU usage, while really putting my computer through the paces with DSD files.  That's not too bad. I usually have about 2GB of memory in reserve, too. Often before listening I'll do a quick restart, just to make sure my machine is running the smoothest it can.
 
Even at that, though, if I'm doing anything else on my computer while taxing it a bit, I'll get a little stutter in the audio, which tells to stop screwing around and just listen.
 
So, basically it's trial and error. You'll get there.
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Oh, and in your options for Bitstreaming, set it to DSD. You shouldn't have to upsample anything from there, unless you really feel the need to (it's debatable if you'll hear the difference). If you don't want to jack with upstreaming, make sure in your DSP output format dialog box, that you're Output Encoding is set to: None. Your channels are set to: Source Number of Channels and your Sample rates are set to "No Change" all the way down the row.


i bought this hp stream 7 ( 7 inch windows 8.1  tablet ) which has 1 Gb ram, so i set the ifi driver to usb streaming : reliable and audio buffer size: 4028
 
and in jriver streaming to 500 milliseconds
 
does that sound ok
 
Feb 5, 2015 at 12:40 PM Post #2,658 of 9,047
I have! I didn't like what seemed to be an extra bass response with the Wyrd, coming out of the iDSD. I had read about that extra bass, and I thought it might be just people's cans, but having the Wyrd and the iUSB Power, side by side, to audition, I felt that I was still mainlining the straight music with iUSB Power, while with the Wyrd I was getting some type of extra processing that didn't seem natural.

Take what I say with a grain if salt, though. On the other hand, know that I auditioned both with my HD800s, so if I'm hearing too much bass in cans that are known for "lack of bass," then we're probably bordering on a Beats by Dre sound signature. People dig that, though.

Reclocking? I know what that means, but I still can't figure out the benefit in a circuit that simple.


HD800 is known for lack of bass? Um ... No. They don't have bloating bass like the Fostex TH series, but they definitely do not lack bass.
 
AKG 7XX series of headphones lack bass, HD598 lacks bass, but the HD800 does not lack bass lol
 
Feb 5, 2015 at 1:06 PM Post #2,659 of 9,047
HD800 is known for lack of bass? Um ... No. They don't have bloating bass like the Fostex TH series, but they definitely do not lack bass.

AKG 7XX series of headphones lack bass, HD598 lacks bass, but the HD800 does not lack bass lol


That's why "lack of bass" was in quotes, yo.

Many people - especially these days where an overt bass response seems to be the norm - have called out the HD800s as having no bass, when in fact, the cans are designed to give an accurate bass profile commensurate to the rest of the frequency spectrum. The HD800s do very well in this regard, which is why I cherish them. It's not their fault that people can't adjust their ears to accurate sound.

Having said that, in relation to the Wyrd, if I'm getting an unnatural bass response on what I consider to be natural cans, then something is wrong, which is why I returned the Wyrd and opted for the iUSB Power, instead.

Simple. I can only imagine how bassy the Wyrd might sound on bloomy cans. Yuck!
 
Feb 5, 2015 at 1:14 PM Post #2,660 of 9,047
i have a question, when i direct mode ( connected to an external amp ) does the turbo, normal and eco mode work or not, as i don't hear any volumes differences between them anymore when in direct mode
 
Feb 5, 2015 at 4:25 PM Post #2,662 of 9,047
  i have a question, when i direct mode ( connected to an external amp ) does the turbo, normal and eco mode work or not, as i don't hear any volumes differences between them anymore when in direct mode

That is right, direct mode levels should not change with different power levels. That what direct mode does. The power levels are mostly for the headphone output not for the RCA outputs. 
 
Feb 5, 2015 at 4:38 PM Post #2,663 of 9,047
so ifi ipower has some effect on the sound?
this is something i should be considering..

does the usb cable from ifi have any effect on SQ?

also, i feel that i need to ask, as i failed to fiind this, what is the ouput impedance?.


Yes and yes.

Cant remember the exact output impedance but you shouldnt be woried about it. Its way below 1 ohm.
 
Feb 5, 2015 at 5:10 PM Post #2,664 of 9,047
  I’m no audiophile and can sometimes find it hard to break down how some equipment sound, but I do know when something sounds ok, really good or really bad.
 
My list of equipment are as follows
 
AK240
AK100ii
Cowon P1
Chord Hugo
JH Roxanne
HD800
LCD v2
Oppo P1
 
So as you can see I have either got it or have had it in the past.
 
 
Now to my latest and cheapest gear.  The ifi Micro. All I can say is it does match much of the kit above in sound quality, but where it beats them all is in value. This thing is amazing and comparing to my Hugo I can honestly say the ifi is 90%  of what the Hugo in sound quality does but for nearly £1k cheaper.
 
 For portable use I’ve retried the Hugo and would now solely use the ifi with my AK100ii and my iPod touch as source. Another thing I love about the ifi is the ease of use. With the Hugo you have to turn it on and then fiddle with the switch in in order to select what input source you’re going to use. Don’t need to do this with the ifi.
 
One final thought. For strictly home use, plugged into a high end amp I’ll still go for the Hugo, but for mainly portable use or on a budget then the ifi means. You’re not going to be missing much using the ifi when compared to other higher much more expensive gear out there and that’s a fact.
 
I think after Xmas a few of my other gear are going to go in the for sale section. The ifi is definitely not going to be one of them.
 
Happy Xmas. 

Ive been using the nano idsd/nano ican with the Sony A16 which is superb,thinking of getting the micro to team up with my AK 100II and sony A16,how do compare the micro/AK100ii to your AK240?
 
Feb 5, 2015 at 5:35 PM Post #2,666 of 9,047
What would be the point of a DAC if it wasn't?
 
People really need to read the f$*&@§g(ly comprehensive) manual ! (it's here !)
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Feb 5, 2015 at 6:11 PM Post #2,667 of 9,047
guys i have a question sorry for asking too much
 
my setup is
 
hp stream 7--- idsd--- rca from ifi to rsa alo mk3---- balanced audeze
 
now on my mk3 the light blinks from blue to purple and according to the alo mk3 thread it means that something is not correct in the path
 
so my question is , to support sending signal from idsd to alo mk3 and output balanced sound is there a certain setting that i must put the on ifi dsd
 
Feb 6, 2015 at 2:45 AM Post #2,669 of 9,047
guys i have a question sorry for asking too much

my setup is

hp stream 7--- idsd--- rca from ifi to rsa alo mk3---- balanced audeze

now on my mk3 the light blinks from blue to purple and according to the alo mk3 thread it means that something is not correct in the path

so my question is , to support sending signal from idsd to alo mk3 and output balanced sound is there a certain setting that i must put the on ifi dsd


Use the "direct" setting.
 
Feb 6, 2015 at 9:27 PM Post #2,670 of 9,047
How does this compare to the Centrance Hifi-M8 both in terms of their capabilities as a DAC only and also as a headphone amp particularly for planars like the Alpha Prime? I would love to hear from anyone who has heard both of them or has any thoughts. Especially if you have heard them paired with the Alpha Prime.
 

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