[BillsonChang007]

 
And yet, no DSD 512..

You got the point sir! 

 

[h1f1add1cted]

 
Hi,
 
Dont worry.
 
Drop us a PM with your name and we'll chase up the tech side.
 
Or you can email tech@ifi-audio.com
 
We dont normally miss support tickets - or it may be that we had to ask someone senior.
 
Thanks

I want to give feedback about my issues.
 
First it works now like charm.

 
Good support by iFi with helpful tips, the root problem caused of a hardware issue from the USB port from the android device itself! No cable, iDSD or software issue - only a really really random annoying hardware issue from the phone itself. With my replacment unit it works like charm!
 

 

 

[If6was9]

Maybe some setting wrong?

Using the Micro iDSD connected to my hi-fi home system (PC with Foobar to the integrated amplifier, using the analog outputs RCA)
I did all the possible tests, comparing the Micro iDSD with my old DVD player (a Sony DVP-S715 of the 2002), well the old Sony wins hands down, using the same tracks, the same connection, the same volume, with the Micro iDSD the scene draw backs, closes and loses in dynamic and three-dimensional to lack a sense of presence and air compared to Sony, with "The Four Seasons" by Vivaldi, played the violin through the Micro iDSD seems mono-chord, especially in the area of ​​the right stage, the arches are barely present, and a general sense of information is missing sound.

The Micro iDSD is set in Turbo mode, Biperfect, Direct

Something wrong?
I hope so

someone did similar tests?

P.S.
Sorry for my bad English

 

[ALRAINBOW]

THE micro dsd is a tad warm. too warm for me in some ways  . this may be the root cause of your findings . did you try the 3d settings. ??
 
also it could be a miss match of imp or synergy. with headphones and my ciem,s its fine. but I did try it with an external amp and the result was not good. not sure why. I do have other amps and today will try them as well to hear any improvements.
another point is a direct comparison with the hugo. I have play with direct comparison's for  hours.
my findings as I wrote them drove me crazy. no direct observation that drew a conclusion seemed possible for me.
only a few points stood out for sure.
first off price point there is no way thew hugo is worth its price . the I dsd at 500 is a far better choice.
options the I dsd wins here with a barrage of settings to play with.
dsd is just real and actually very good with the ifi dsd and thehugo is just all wrong with dsd.
now pcm is a confusing mirage of good and bad, various resolutions with same songs sound better on one and worse on others.
over all the hugo wins but again at 5 times the price I could not say buy it over the ifi dsd micro.
now thisis with headphones and c iems. over a period of time.  I have yet to try the two with speakers. the warmth of the ifidsd micro does seem to get less as we listen to it. I guess our brains adjust . so quick A/B is best to compare. 
anyway hope this helps someone. 
al

 

[iFi audio]

I am hearing the same thing on my iDSD Micro. I seems dependent on the source, but is disconcerting for sure. I hear a steady pair of light clicks or pops every 5-10 seconds when I use my iPhone 6, Tidal, and iDSD Micro. Not strong but consistently there. Changed all the cables, and it was still there. Switching to my MacBook Air and the Tidal native app and it only happened once in 2 hours.

So, it's unclear if the iPhone 6 DAC output is just super jittery compare to the MacBook but the problem has been consistent for several days now.

Any suggestions on what other cabling or settings changes I could use are welcome.

 
Hi,
 
The clicks may be Tidal App itself.
 
Please try listening directly with HP on the iPhone, also play music from internal player or Onkyo HF Player.
 
If the internal player is fine then you can narrow the problem down to the Tidal app/service.
 
This is because we encountered similar problems with Spotify when the net connections bandwidth get choked.
 
If this does not work, you can also open a support ticket with more specific system details etc and we can look in more depth.
 
Thanks.

 

[iFi audio]

Maybe some setting wrong?

Using the Micro iDSD connected to my hi-fi home system (PC with Foobar to the integrated amplifier, using the analog outputs RCA)
I did all the possible tests, comparing the Micro iDSD with my old DVD player (a Sony DVP-S715 of the 2002), well the old Sony wins hands down, using the same tracks, the same connection, the same volume, with the Micro iDSD the scene draw backs, closes and loses in dynamic and three-dimensional to lack a sense of presence and air compared to Sony, with "The Four Seasons" by Vivaldi, played the violin through the Micro iDSD seems mono-chord, especially in the area of ​​the right stage, the arches are barely present, and a general sense of information is missing sound.

The Micro iDSD is set in Turbo mode, Biperfect, Direct

Something wrong?
I hope so

someone did similar tests?

P.S.
Sorry for my bad English

Hi,

 
Please try "Turbo" off. And double-check the switch is engaged in Direct. It be over-driving your inputs.

 
Use "Eco" mode which puts out the normal 2v. Turbo put puts 5v ball park.

 
Turbo is primarily for hungry headphones via the 6.3mm, not the RCA for normal integrated amplfiiers.
 
Also, level-match too.
 
Hope this helps.

 

[freedom01]

I wonder if it is a norm for macbook or laptop users in such scenario which I am facing quite often.
 
Setup :
 
rMBP -> mercury cable -> iusbpower -> gemini cable -> iDSD micro -> headphone
 
Whenever I am done with, I will switch off the iDSD before closing my rMBP lid (not shut down).
 
The next day, I resumed my rMBP and then switched on the iDSD (in that sequence).
 
Tried playing songs from iTunes or Audirvana Plus, no signal/sound.
 
The workaround - I have to switch off the iDSD and unplug the iusbpower power cable. Connect it again and switch on the iDSD.
 
 
Why is that so , may I ask ? Thanks.

 

[BillsonChang007]

Hi,

The clicks may be Tidal App itself.

Please try listening directly with HP on the iPhone, also play music from internal player or Onkyo HF Player.

If the internal player is fine then you can narrow the problem down to the Tidal app/service.

This is because we encountered similar problems with Spotify when the net connections bandwidth get choked.

If this does not work, you can also open a support ticket with more specific system details etc and we can look in more depth.

Thanks.

+1 to this! Actually, I have it sometimes even in offline mode for whatever reason it may be.

 

[If6was9]

Hi,


 
Please try "Turbo" off. And double-check the switch is engaged in Direct. It be over-driving your inputs.


 
Use "Eco" mode which puts out the normal 2v. Turbo put puts 5v ball park.


 
Turbo is primarily for hungry headphones via the 6.3mm, not the RCA for normal integrated amplfiiers.

Also, level-match too.

Hope this helps.

Thanks for the reply,

I tried in Eco, but does not help much, is always that sense of compression, it is as if the sound played by each instrument, missing the beginning and end of each note, and therefore there is no air or breath to all the sound stage, musical instruments, instead of being present in a well-defined point, must be in a sense searched

Any other advice?

Thanks

Sorry for my bad English

 

[diamondears]

Thanks for the reply,

I tried in Eco, but does not help much, is always that sense of compression, it is as if the sound played by each instrument, missing the beginning and end of each note, and therefore there is no air or breath to all the sound stage, musical instruments, instead of being present in a well-defined point, must be in a sense searched

Any other advice?

Thanks

Sorry for my bad English

What Digital Filter do you use? Try Minimum Phase Filter. And burn it in. When I first played my nano iDSD, I thought it's broken. After charging it in full overnight plus around 30 mins of use, it turned into a marvelous little wonder.

 

[iFi audio]

  I wonder if it is a norm for macbook or laptop users in such scenario which I am facing quite often.

 
Setup :

 
rMBP -> mercury cable -> iusbpower -> gemini cable -> iDSD micro -> headphone

 
Whenever I am done with, I will switch off the iDSD before closing my rMBP lid (not shut down).

 
The next day, I resumed my rMBP and then switched on the iDSD (in that sequence).

 
Tried playing songs from iTunes or Audirvana Plus, no signal/sound.

 
The workaround - I have to switch off the iDSD and unplug the iusbpower power cable. Connect it again and switch on the iDSD.

 

 
Why is that so , may I ask ? Thanks.

Hi,
 
We recommend to best to turn off the iUSB Power when not in use OR switch on after the Macbook.
 
This should ensure the rMBP and micro iDSD should "see" one another as desired.
 
Thanks.

 

[If6was9]

What Digital Filter do you use? Try Minimum Phase Filter. And burn it in. When I first played my nano iDSD, I thought it's broken. After charging it in full overnight plus around 30 mins of use, it turned into a marvelous little wonder.

I play PCM in Bitperfect, and DSD64 in Minimum Phase, and not use headphones

 

[ClieOS]

.... I've seen something similar or possibly worse… it was like backstabbing and not minding the poster right in front of him. Anyways, comparisons with the Hugo have been… contradictory amongst people. Some say the Hugo is warmer, bassier, and more musical while being more resolute while some say the Hugo is slightly more resolute and with slightly greater technicalities at the expense of musicality and warmth relative to the iDSD. Which would you find to have more bass quantity and extension? The Hugo right or do you mean by richer/denser to be mostly in the midrange? Is the soundstage and imaging obviously better on the Hugo? Thanks in advance!! I'm trying to conclude what I'd be getting and losing in changing the iDSD into a Hugo and also if it would be the worth the additional costs.
...

 
Extension is pretty similar between the two, but because of the denser / warmer nature of Hugo's sound, it tends to come out weightier where iDSD micro tends to be faster. I don't dislike the sound of Hugo in anyway though (my beef is mostly with its exterior design, but that's another story), but I do think the difference is more quantitative rather than qualitative. Soundstage wise, I think Hugo does do a better job if iDSD micro doesn't have its 3D Sound engaged. The background doesn't sound as dark as iDSD micro, but it is more 'surrounded' and gives a more defined image. With 3D enable however, I will say iDSD micro has the edge.

 

[Sound Eq]

   
Extension is pretty similar between the two, but because of the denser / warmer nature of Hugo's sound, it tends to come out weightier where iDSD micro tends to be faster. I don't dislike the sound of Hugo in anyway though (my beef is mostly with its exterior design, but that's another story), but I do think the difference is more quantitative rather than qualitative. Soundstage wise, I think Hugo does do a better job if iDSD micro doesn't have its 3D Sound engaged. The background doesn't sound as dark as iDSD micro, but it is more 'surrounded' and gives a more defined image. With 3D enable however, I will say iDSD micro has the edge.

now such posts confuse the hell out of me, i thought the hugo had a thin sound and i owned and sold it because i found it lacking in bass and warmth, now from the quoted post above i see that the ifi is even less warm and with lower bass quantity why on earth can't people agree on things which should be easy to determine 

 

[ClieOS]

 
now such posts confuse the hell out of me, i thought the hugo had a thin sound and i owned and sold it because i found it lacking in bass and warmth, now from the quoted post above i see that the ifi is even less warm and with lower bass quantity why on earth can't people agree on things which should be easy to determine 

 
Can't help you there, but I think most owner will agree that iDSD micro is not a particularly warm sounding DAC/amp. But there is bass boost and it does take care of the quantitative part of things.