If you still love Etymotic ER4, this is the thread for you...

[riodgarp]

I currently have something that makes me scratch my head, firstly: I placed my er3se inside small round plastic container, iem seems fine but triple flange leaking sticky liquid. secondly: I placed my other iem (atr) into small box container (doesn't really airtight) it's leaking like a hell, but when I placed my atr at iem stand it just fine with a little bit stickiness, what happened to my iems? did it cause of they already degraded? (both my er3se and atr already sticky from seller)

note that I use silica gel and dried up each container using baby powder and placed all of container inside dry box

 

[diabelli]

The things you find when you start opening old boxes you have at home...

 

[vvsangelo]

The things you find when you start opening old boxes you have at home...

Hehe, such a nice suprise

 

[kmhaynes]

The things you find when you start opening old boxes you have at home...

those comply foam tips alone are $15-20 per package -- good find!

 

[IKADDI]

lol? how did the old filters looked? as in how do we know that it's too dirty and needs replacing?

on the other hand, any er4xr owners here tried the filter tuning kit? im thinking if i should try the brown ones if i'll like it or not

Idk it looked normal to me but still decided to replace after two years and sound got more "fresh".

 

[diabelli]

those comply foam tips alone are $15-20 per package -- good find!

When I bought them in 2009, I paid about $21 shipped. Let's just say they haven't lost their value... In any case, the whole kit has held up well, except for the cable, which is just a little "sticky." But I've always had a bad relationship with the cable; it's the weak point of these headphones, IMHO.

 

[episiarch]

Just out of curiosity, if there was an option to have the ER4 response in a custom IEM shell, would that be of any interest to anybody here?

@AnyDave yes, I'd be very interested. Would your plan include it having ER levels of isolation as well?

 

[AnyDave]

@AnyDave yes, I'd be very interested. Would your plan include it having ER levels of isolation as well?

It would be a sealing custom IEM, so it would be highly isolating, but nothing really attenuates as much as a deep sealed foam eartip. That can't be exactly matched with a custom shell.

 

[episiarch]

It would be a sealing custom IEM, so it would be highly isolating, but nothing really attenuates as much as a deep sealed foam eartip. That can't be exactly matched with a custom shell.

Sorry, I should have been more specific – would it be comparable to well-fitting tri-flange isolation?

I'm thinking back to an Indian company that exhibited very deep-fit customs at CanJam London some years ago. They were very insistent that second-bend fit was needed to get the sonics they wanted. I'm completely failing to find their name, though. Edit: it was Stealth Sonics, out of SIngapore. I only tried their universal-fit, but their specialty was very deep custom-fit. They seem to be gone now, but here's a review that matches what I remember about them.

 

[AnyDave]

Sorry, I should have been more specific – would it be comparable to well-fitting tri-flange isolation?

I'm thinking back to an Indian company that exhibited very deep-fit customs at CanJam London some years ago. They were very insistent that second-bend fit was needed to get the sonics they wanted. I'm completely failing to find their name, though.

It should be pretty close to a triple flange, but maybe *slightly* less. But, in general, getting enough isolation is not an issue as long as the fit is good. And if it's not, then it should be made to be good.

 

[episiarch]

It should be pretty close to a triple flange, but maybe *slightly* less. But, in general, getting enough isolation is not an issue as long as the fit is good. And if it's not, then it should be made to be good.

Sounds great to me. Thanks. (I never got along great with foams, so my standards aren't quite that high.)

I just updated my post above to reflect the actual brand of that deep-fit custom IEM I remember from way back when.

 

[AnyDave]

Sounds great to me. Thanks. (I never got along great with foams, so my standards aren't quite that high.)

I just updated my post above to reflect the actual brand of that deep-fit custom IEM I remember from way back when.

Well, they are correct, you always want to make sure that you go past the second bend when getting ear impressions. If we get impressions that don't have the second bend, we ask for them to be redone, so that is definitely something you want to make sure the impression taker does correctly. It's not just for sonics, but also for a good seal.

You may be able to get decent sonics with a shorter stem, but it may affect seal, attenuation and it will almost certainly increase the occlusion effect.

 

[JAnonymous5150]

increase the occlusion effect

As someone who had his first impressions done incorrectly, this was actually the biggest difference I noticed once I had a pair made with proper impressions that went past the second bend. It turns out that deeper is much more comfortable along with creating better isolation and sonic performance.

 

[AnyDave]

As someone who had his first impressions done incorrectly, this was actually the biggest difference I noticed once I had a pair made with proper impressions that went past the second bend. It turns out that deeper is much more comfortable along with creating better isolation and sonic performance.

Yeah, I agree. Deeper customs can be quite comfortable and more secure if done well, while reducing the occlusion effect.

 

[Nares]

Happy ER3XR user here (who also happens to own ER2XR). Wanted to say hello and to share some experience.

Sound signature description by me, ER3XR: midcentric with some bass and reserved, non-fatiguing treble. ER2XR compared to ER3XR: V-shaped.

A couple of annoying things from reviews:
1) - Hard to read R/L marks.
- You aren't supposed to read them, you are supposed to check if they face you or not. Towards you = correct.
2) - Not designed for over-ear use.
- Designed. The way it works for me: earpiece rubber "tails" look down-forward, wires do 135° loop forward and up.

Proper insertion: user manual has comprehensive info, but I want to emphasize one more time that skipping steps doesn't work here. I'm lucky and frosted triple flange fit me prefectly but I still need to do every step to get proper fit: pull ear up and back, rotate earpiece to make final adjustment, use wet tissues on tips every time.

Differences between triple flange eartips. My ER2XR came with new transparent eartips, different from old frosted ones. Firstly, they are smaller and softer. Secondly, they have weird effect when end flange looks slightly to the side. This happens either because they stick to metal and when you put them on the earpiece, they slide unevenly, or because stems are cut a little bit short and the end of the earpiece makes contact with conical end section of the canal inside the eartip. Either way you have to adjust them.

Sizing issues. Frosted SM were perfect for me. New transparent SM are small, and although I can use them, transparent L fit me better. So you might have to step up in size switching to new tips. Strictly speaking I'm between sizes both with double and triple flanges now. Good thing I have a pack of frosted 3-f and by the time I finish them Ety hopefully will come up with better tips.

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