[HiFiChris]

Just wondering. Are the ER3 metal (like the ER4) or plastic? Not a deal breaker btw

Metal (like the new ER4 series, but more matt than shiny and black instead of steel blue).

 

[Colors]

Just wondering. Are the ER3 metal (like the ER4) or plastic? Not a deal breaker btw

Metal I believe.

 

[egg1111115]

So, I just got the ER3XR and they sound amazing!! I think I got the seal right (only tried the smaller flanges now)...not exactly comfortable right now, and I have a lot of earwax, but I think I'm getting the expected bass response (not too much, so I'm glad I went for these instead of the SE)/isolation. The detail is fantastic. I can't imagine how the ER4s improve on this. I also like the little pouch they come with

Anyway, so I don't have to scroll through almost 800 pages, what's the consensus on remote cables? That's probably the one thing I miss from my previous IEMs...having to take my phone out of my pocket is a real pain.

 

[Colors]

So, I just got the ER3XR and they sound amazing!! I think I got the seal right (only tried the smaller flanges now)...not exactly comfortable right now, and I have a lot of earwax, but I think I'm getting the expected bass response (not too much, so I'm glad I went for these instead of the SE)/isolation. The detail is fantastic. I can't imagine how the ER4s improve on this. I also like the little pouch they come with

Anyway, so I don't have to scroll through almost 800 pages, what's the consensus on remote cables? That's probably the one thing I miss from my previous IEMs...having to take my phone out of my pocket is a real pain.

No remote makes wearing over the ears easier

Glad you like the ER. They're detailed monsters and in class of its own for the price point and can compete with much more expensive IEMs in terms of detail. Got my $599 Empire Ears Bravados and my ER4XR still outclass them in vocals, especially female vocals and trebles.

 

[egg1111115]

No remote makes wearing over the ears easier

Glad you like the ER. They're detailed monsters and in class of its own for the price point and can compete with much more expensive IEMs in terms of detail. Got my $599 Empire Ears Bravados and my ER4XR still outclass them in vocals, especially female vocals and trebles.

Hm...I haven't tried over the ears yet. I seem to get a good enough seal the "standard" way. Any other reason I might want to do that?

 

[chinmie]

Hm...I haven't tried over the ears yet. I seem to get a good enough seal the "standard" way. Any other reason I might want to do that?

wearing over ear reduces microphonics by a whole lot, also to me it reduces the tugging down feeling inside the ear canal because of the dangling cable.

 

[egg1111115]

So...I've been playing around with the tips, and it seems like I get the best seal with the included foam tips, but they don't go in nearly as deep as the other ones. The triple flange ones also kind of hurt putting them in. So, out of curiosity, I just tried the Comply tips I got for my Klipsch X11i, (I got the variety pack for the 100 size), and they work great! I can get them just as deep as I could the triple flanges, and I get (what I think is) a perfect seal. Are there any disadvantages of using these tips instead of the included ones? I see people seem to really praise the triple flanges.

Additionally, what's the difference between the standard Comply size 100 tips (medium) and these ones? Should I pick these up even though the regular size seems fine? https://www.complyfoam.com/products/p-series/

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just excited

 

[Colors]

So...I've been playing around with the tips, and it seems like I get the best seal with the included foam tips, but they don't go in nearly as deep as the other ones. The triple flange ones also kind of hurt putting them in. So, out of curiosity, I just tried the Comply tips I got for my Klipsch X11i, (I got the variety pack for the 100 size), and they work great! I can get them just as deep as I could the triple flanges, and I get (what I think is) a perfect seal. Are there any disadvantages of using these tips instead of the included ones? I see people seem to really praise the triple flanges.

Additionally, what's the difference between the standard Comply size 100 tips (medium) and these ones? Should I pick these up even though the regular size seems fine? https://www.complyfoam.com/products/p-series/

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just excited

I find foam tips have better bass while the trifangles have more treble.

 

[castleofargh]

I get a little roll off in the low end with the foam tips compared to properly sealed triflanges, so better bass might be arguable.

So...I've been playing around with the tips, and it seems like I get the best seal with the included foam tips, but they don't go in nearly as deep as the other ones. The triple flange ones also kind of hurt putting them in. So, out of curiosity, I just tried the Comply tips I got for my Klipsch X11i, (I got the variety pack for the 100 size), and they work great! I can get them just as deep as I could the triple flanges, and I get (what I think is) a perfect seal. Are there any disadvantages of using these tips instead of the included ones? I see people seem to really praise the triple flanges.

Additionally, what's the difference between the standard Comply size 100 tips (medium) and these ones? Should I pick these up even though the regular size seems fine? https://www.complyfoam.com/products/p-series/

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just excited

the P are longer. forget about inserting the IEM really deep with those. which IMO is an issue for Etys as deep insertion is needed to get the expected signature. I use the P series only with IEMs that can't go deep at all. in that case the longer P foam tip can really help provide a good isolation when it's hard to get it with usual tips.

 

[egg1111115]

Interesting...from the product page it seemed like the P series was specifically made for the deep insertion IEMs...

 

[BartSimpson1976]

redceived my Ety-connectors and have given a Linum cable to retermination.
Looking forward to the result.

 

[castleofargh]

Interesting...from the product page it seemed like the P series was specifically made for the deep insertion IEMs...

they're longer...
of course you can look at it from a fixed driver position and say that they will go deeper than say a single flange silicone tip.
now IDK for your ears, but mine let me go past the first bend of the ear canal just fine, then put a solid stop to my insertion of tips around the second bend. the ety+triflange stop at the second bend. the usual comply foam medium also stops when I reach the second bend. and using a longer tip like the P series stops at the same place. except that now because the tip is longer, the driver is further away from my eardrum, which is IMO not good for Etymotic IEMs. that's why I made a clear distinction between using Etymotic, and using IEMs with a shell that doesn't allow deep insertion.
like with Westone or Shure stuff, the insertion is strictly determined by the shell of the IEMs, for those, having a longer foam tip can let you go deeper and get a little better isolation(most likely at the cost of overall comfort).

is it clearer said like that? all this is really just me saying: they're longer foam tips. ^_^

 

[egg1111115]

they're longer...
of course you can look at it from a fixed driver position and say that they will go deeper than say a single flange silicone tip.
now IDK for your ears, but mine let me go past the first bend of the ear canal just fine, then put a solid stop to my insertion of tips around the second bend. the ety+triflange stop at the second bend. the usual comply foam medium also stops when I reach the second bend. and using a longer tip like the P series stops at the same place. except that now because the tip is longer, the driver is further away from my eardrum, which is IMO not good for Etymotic IEMs. that's why I made a clear distinction between using Etymotic, and using IEMs with a shell that doesn't allow deep insertion.
like with Westone or Shure stuff, the insertion is strictly determined by the shell of the IEMs, for those, having a longer foam tip can let you go deeper and get a little better isolation(most likely at the cost of overall comfort).

is it clearer said like that? all this is really just me saying: they're longer foam tips. ^_^

Got it, thanks for the explanation!

Anyway, I'm not sure how to tell if these are sealed properly. With no music playing, I can still hear myself tap on my desk with my fingernail, or snap my fingers about half a foot from my ear (with both the triple flanges and Comply T100). Should I expect to do any better than that?

 

[castleofargh]

rub your fingers next to your ear, if you can notice that, you do not have a good seal.

 

[tamio]

Hmm, er3se/xr (179$) vs er4s (208$), what should I end up with? In term of build quality and sound quality