If its that bad, I think power conditioning could help?
I normally buy a long rca cable and use this(sleeve connection) for ground cable. But on TT2 its bnc, I dont know how expensive they are.
My RME DAC FS is the worst case I have had. Same location with TT2 = zero issue. Im guessing my issue was RF, but still got solved with ground cable on RME
Exact advice chord gave me, piece of bell wire twisted around the outer sleeve of a rca socket (or BNC ) wired to the earth pin of a 13amp socket and plugged in. I took the live/neutral pins out. Power conditioning may help, but of coarse with that you need to audition the various models because obviously they don't all sound the same. Then after that, choosing a decent IEC cable can be tricky. And the the mine field of audiophile fuses needs addressing also. So you can, if not careful, open up a big can of worms. Oh yeah and it will cost £££$$$££££$$$$, I wont knock folk who want to fill there boots with that. But................Enjoy the tunes folks.
Exact advice chord gave me, piece of bell wire twisted around the outer sleeve of a rca socket (or BNC ) wired to the earth pin of a 13amp socket and plugged in. I took the live/neutral pins out. Power conditioning may help, but of coarse with that you need to audition the various models because obviously they don't all sound the same. Then after that, choosing a decent IEC cable can be tricky. And the the mine field of audiophile fuses needs addressing also. So you can, if not careful, open up a big can of worms. Oh yeah and it will cost £££$$$££££$$$$, I wont knock folk who want to fill there boots with that. But................Enjoy the tunes folks.
Its not always the solution because it can cause groundloops. What I am trying to say is that my TT2 did not have any issues at the exact same location as RME DAC FS(worse case RF ever in my life). I believe on TT2 cases: Good power conditioner filtering the wall/mains. I still somehow believe optical input will fix it also...maybe not
Has anyone who uses TT2 directly with Meze Elites noticed silent electric noise? I can't hear it with any other headphones or IEM.
It disappears when I touch TT2 with my hand, plug something like iFi Groundhog, or have my TT2 connected to an external amp.
That's why I assumed it was because of the old electrical wiring in my home, but now I'm in another place for a week, took my TT2 and Elites with me, and here it is the same.
Own this set up. Been tried in multiple places, included in some exhibition condition (which electricity shouldn't be that good), no electric noise I ever heard.
For some reason I initially posted the message in the MScaler thread, I’ve just realised it and move it here.
TT2 received! it’s a black, lightly used unit, I haven’t checked for scratches and marks yet, but it came with original box and accessories. It’s a shame the PSU connector is a C7, can’t use my Puritan Audio power cable. Everything works as expected, no humming or hiss, and no ‘lack-of-ground’ feel either.
It’s really tiny compared to the Denafrips Venus II that sits on the shelf below, or the Fluxlab FA-12 sitting on the top shelf. Hard to imagine the TT2 replaces both!
It’s connected via optical to a Pi with PI2AES hat, running Audiolinux, as Roon endpoint. Next week I should get the Audiowize usb to dual bnc converter so that I can use my other PI as NAA for HQPlayer.
So far I only connected the Meze Empyrean and they sound good. It’s difficult to do any meaningful comparison, but the Empys are very dynamic and don’t lack anything in the bass departmen. I found myself adjusting the volume a few times to hit the sweet spot, even on the same recording. Not a sweet sounding DAC for sure, it punches hard if needed. More to come…
I just got the tt2. Comparing it with my internal dac on the 430had. At first I could hear a small difference, but later I think it was because of not volume leveling. Now when A-B ing I can’t tell them apart. TT2 is maybe a tiny bit more relaxed. But I’m not sure.
Running iMac-quobuz-Roon-usb on both and chord epic xlr between tt2 and 430had. Tried it in dac mode and amp mode. In both lo and hi gain.
Can’t understand why I can’t hear a noticeable difference.
I just got the tt2. Comparing it with my internal dac on the 430had. At first I could hear a small difference, but later I think it was because of not volume leveling. Now when A-B ing I can’t tell them apart. TT2 is maybe a tiny bit more relaxed. But I’m not sure.
Running iMac-quobuz-Roon-usb on both and chord epic xlr between tt2 and 430had. Tried it in dac mode and amp mode. In both lo and hi gain.
Can’t understand why I can’t hear a noticeable different.
I've also noticed it. In the beginning, you can hear the differences. The more you compare, the fewer differences you can identify.
I've read it is because our brain can "recreate" missing sounds that it already knows.
I am not very familiar to the 430Had or the Susvara. However, is well known that Susvaras are an icon of power hungry headphones. A "logical" starting point to find your best setup, can be using the balanced outs of the TT2 in DAC mode (5V) to the 430HAD, and see if you can comfortably reach your listening levels in Low or High gain modes of the 430; always leave some headroom for recordings with a high dynamic range. That way, you can avoid dealing with two volume controls; while sound degradation is not a concern (both devices have different, but very good volume control implementations), using only one, tends to be more user friendly. If you need more juice from the 430HAD, surely you can send a hotter signal from your TT2 in amp mode (up to 18W), but keep in mind that it may be "too hot for your amp". I tried to find the "Maximum input signal" in the 430HAD manual but I couldn't find that particular spec. by example my MA8900 is rated at 16V max in it's balanced inputs, but I find it too high anyway.
Will the volume settings do any difference regarding how much power coming out in total with tt2 running amp mode? Just go about 50/50 on both for volume levels?
Will the volume settings do any difference regarding how much power coming out in total with tt2 running amp mode? Just go about 50/50 on both for volume levels?
Probably my previous post lacked clarity, I hope this screenshots from the TT2 manual are useful to you, I am not quite sure if you are referring to this:
Friendly advice: avoid using too much output power to any external amplifier from the TT2 in AMP mode, unless you are sure that the amplifier can handle that amount of power in its inputs.
Edit* If your 430HAD have enough power to comfortably drive the Susvaras, and you want to keep it simple... Select DAC mode in your TT2, use XLR interconnects for a stronger signal, and your are all set.
I just got the tt2. Comparing it with my internal dac on the 430had. At first I could hear a small difference, but later I think it was because of not volume leveling. Now when A-B ing I can’t tell them apart. TT2 is maybe a tiny bit more relaxed. But I’m not sure.
Running iMac-quobuz-Roon-usb on both and chord epic xlr between tt2 and 430had. Tried it in dac mode and amp mode. In both lo and hi gain.
Can’t understand why I can’t hear a noticeable difference.
Not dissing the TT2 here at all, it's a great product, but I think audiophiles need to admit that, for whatever reason, this happens sometimes. Don't waste your time hoping the device, or your ears, will "burn in". Don't waste your money on fancy cables or PSU upgrades. Get rid and spend the money elsewhere.
I just got the tt2. Comparing it with my internal dac on the 430had. At first I could hear a small difference, but later I think it was because of not volume leveling. Now when A-B ing I can’t tell them apart. TT2 is maybe a tiny bit more relaxed. But I’m not sure.
Running iMac-quobuz-Roon-usb on both and chord epic xlr between tt2 and 430had. Tried it in dac mode and amp mode. In both lo and hi gain.
Can’t understand why I can’t hear a noticeable difference.
The thing you have to look for in TT2 is not soo much the details, but how it "swings" the tempo and layering. The seperation and layering, those things are effortlessly easy on the ears. If you cant hear this difference, that meanse you already have a good DAC.
Also mood has a big impact on how we perceive music. When my mood is low give me a mp3 player with potato as DAC it sounds the same.
I've had a few dacs in my time and would find it difficult to tell you about perceived differences between each one as i don't think there's alot in it as some folks would put out there.. Only time i found a real differnce was from ess chip to a dac with AKM which was surprising.
The thing you have to look for in TT2 is not soo much the details, but how it "swings" the tempo and layering. The seperation and layering, those things are effortlessly easy on the ears. If you cant hear this difference, that meanse you already have a good DAC.
Also mood has a big impact on how we perceive music. When my mood is low give me a mp3 player with potato as DAC it sounds the same.
I do hear like a 5-10% difference maybe depending of which track. TT2 sounds a tiny bit more rounded and vocals does come a little more forward, it sounds kind of more calm on some tracks. I do prefer it to the 430had internal dac. But i don’t think it’s worth $5500 since I already got the 430had.
Remember I had the qutest couple of years ago, with rca cables into the 430had, and the difference then was almost not noticeable either, it had a tiny bit more rounded sound. Price wise the qutest is maybe a better value. Since I don’t need the amp in TT2.
Changing from stock cable on susvara to Heimdall 2 Cable is almost more noticeable than changing dac.
I do hear like a 5-10% difference maybe depending of which track. TT2 sounds a tiny bit more rounded and vocals does come a little more forward, it sounds kind of more calm on some tracks. I do prefer it to the 430had internal dac. But i don’t think it’s worth $5500 since I already got the 430had.
Remember I had the qutest couple of years ago, with rca cables into the 430had, and the difference then was almost not noticeable either, it had a tiny bit more rounded sound. Price wise the qutest is maybe a better value. Since I don’t need the amp in TT2.
Changing from stock cable on susvara to Heimdall 2 Cable is almost more noticeable than changing dac.
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