Daniel Johnston
Headphoneus Supremus
Again, you are trying to crusade for ASR/your beliefs in the most hostile, toxic way. You literally just proved my point. I read the other thread and your fellow ASR members agree these hostile posts do nothing but hurt the vision and purpose of ASRWhat nonsense. Watts is the marketing mouthpiece for Chord—his post I responded to is a stark example of that. I am not speaking on behalf of the folks at ASR—I’m speaking on behalf of myself after having been an unwitting victim of these prices before I had the evidence required to make an informed purchase.
There is nothing innovative whatsoever about a brand that charges Cadillac prices yet still utilizes obsolete tech like micro-USB connectors, primitive green LCD screens that can barely be viewed up close and that lack balanced headphone connectors in 2022—these are just a few of the lazy features Chord still sells while far cheaper brands sound just as good and include the latest industry standards. I’m not arguing about the respective benefits of these features, but if I’m going to pay these prices I should surely have the ultimate in options.
Ask yourself what is informing that $14,000 price point for the DAVE, an eight year old product that has long since recouped its pre-market investments? How is it that brands like Gustard can profit from producing a product that performs as least as well on the bench and is priced at literally 1/20th of the DAVE right from launch?
We can quibble over the value of measurements in headphones and amps, but not for DACs. It is true that the differences between Chord products and the superior performance of ES-9038pro-based DACs are beyond the range of human hearing. This latest offering from Chord achieved benchmarks that passed as recommended on ASR, as have all of Chord’s offerings on there, in case you haven’t actually read them. But for $6500+ dollars, this product should be showing the industry how it’s done, and it simply isn’t.
Which is the case for all of Chord’s offerings—they sound great, if you don’t mind missing features like balanced connectors or analog bass enhancers or readable screens, and you’re prepared to need exorbitantly priced add ons like an M-Scaler that for the cost should be integrated into the DAC itself or a proprietary streamer that costs as much as the DAC/AMP you’re pairing it with. I mind these things, especially when I can achieve the same end result at a fraction of the price.
You’re evidently someone who paid until it hurts for one of these products, as I did once, and it makes sense why you would fiercely defend the company you’re held captive to by your wallet. But I’m sorry, when the “designer” of the product I shelled out a fortune to commands me to ignore the measurements or the constructive criticisms of unbiased reviewers, and doesn’t provide me with any compelling information to refute their claims other than the soothing words of his mum to not worry, I’m calling him out.
He’s doing just fine, and as long as you stay loyal he’ll take your sycophantic efforts to defend him. But sorry, I work too hard for the money I part with to bring music into my home, and if I’m going to pay the price of a vehicle for a portable DAC/Amp, I need to see the math behind the sticker price. When that is forthcoming, we can talk. Peace.
You can be passionate about price for performance audio gear. You can fervently believe Chord products are supremely over priced. You can even choose to believe Rob Watts himself is a charlatan and a fraud. However, these are solely your beliefs and ASR has done nothing to prove or disprove these beliefs definitively to others.
Bottom line, get over yourself. You don’t want to buy Chord products? Fine. Stop with this hostile silliness. You made your point.
I don’t feel like I “paid it until it hurts” for any Chord product. Nor do I feel Rob Watts is a God. But he is a well respected audio engineer who doesn’t deserve childish attacks from a self appointed crusader of “The Truth”.