Hugo M Scaler by Chord Electronics - The Official Thread
Mar 30, 2019 at 2:27 PM Post #6,331 of 18,627
Mar 30, 2019 at 5:02 PM Post #6,333 of 18,627
Thanks I will do some experimenting.

I was going to ask if you’re going to downsample to 48kHz (since it’s a 768kHz recording) or 44.1kHz...

But maybe just do both, for comparing to the native original 768kHz recording? Comparing one extra thing shouldn't add too much to the experimenting time.
 
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Mar 31, 2019 at 5:50 PM Post #6,334 of 18,627
Whenever I saw your profile photo, I was forced to imagine how you would like with your perm.
I couldn't make it "unseen".



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Apr 1, 2019 at 3:11 PM Post #6,336 of 18,627
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Apr 1, 2019 at 4:06 PM Post #6,339 of 18,627
been listening to the jungle book a lot lately to get my little girl to go sleep, usually on my phone, but its really nice on the mscaler\tt2. Has a lot of subtlety, with the trombone and big drum, the vocals too.

https://open.qobuz.com/album/0094635103458

thinking about it, i'm starting to wonder whether it was the jungle book that got me interested in music, way back when, certainly brass and jazz.....

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Apr 1, 2019 at 8:33 PM Post #6,340 of 18,627
and just to say that I found the difference between 0.5, 1.0 and 2m to be at the subtle end of the scale.

ATC SCM150ASL


...damn that must be heaven with the DAVE MScaler combo!!!
 
Apr 1, 2019 at 9:35 PM Post #6,341 of 18,627
I’m sure I read in one of the Blu2/Dave/M Scaler threads a post by Rob explaining why 2m BNC cables are likely to sound better than shorter ones. Can anyone remember the science behind it or point me in the direction of the original post?

Thanks
In theory, the longer cable length will attenuate high frequencies better.
 
Apr 1, 2019 at 10:39 PM Post #6,342 of 18,627
In theory, my understanding is that SPDIF cables should be at least 1.5m (min) to make it easier for the receiver to reject reflections. Being digital signals, I’m not sure how much credence I give that, but that is the lore I have heard.

As a practical matter, with Blu2 (back in the day) I heard clear improvement going from 0.5m to 1m to 2m, and barely any change going to 4m. I ended up with 2m cables.

As a reference, the sq improvement from loading up the cables with ferrites to manage RF was WAY more than the relatively subtle improvement with the longer cables.

Nick’s STREAM cables at 1m we’re slightly but clearly better SQ than my heavily ferrited 2m cables. You get much more bang for the buck with RF hygiene.
 
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Apr 1, 2019 at 11:15 PM Post #6,343 of 18,627
In theory, my understanding is that SPDIF cables should be at least 1.5m (min) to make it easier for the receiver to reject reflections. Being digital signals, I’m not sure how much credence I give that, but that is the lore I have heard.

As a practical matter, with Blu2 (back in the day) I heard clear improvement going from 0.5m to 1m to 2m, and barely any change going to 4m. I ended up with 2m cables.

As a reference, the sq improvement from loading up the cables with ferrites to manage RF was WAY more than the relatively subtle improvement with the longer cables.

Nick’s STREAM cables at 1.5m (I believe) we’re slightly but clearly better SQ than my heavily ferrited 2m cables. You get much more bang for the buck with RF hygiene.
I agree with the change from 1M to 2M being hard to perceive. Though admittedly my listening tests were sighted and it was hard to conduct over a several hour period. My findings with the Blu Mk II were somewhat consistent with the findings Romaz and Rob Watts posted in 2018. Are you using ferrites with the Hugo M Scaler or was this with the Blu MkII?
 
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Apr 1, 2019 at 11:23 PM Post #6,344 of 18,627
I agree with the change to 1M to 2M being hard to perceive. Are you using ferrites with the Hugo M Scaler or was this with the Blu MkII?

I did my cable length experiments with Blu2 (documented in my huge Blu2 review) but I’m currently using my 2m Ferrited Cable of Shame with my HMS. I have not repeated the experiments with my HMS

As I noted in my review it was very hard to hear differences with headphones, but I could hear clear differences with my Omega super alnico monitors (esp in near field).

As always with digital, I urge people to try things in their preferred setup (YMWV). Thankfully BNC cable length is a cheap and easy experiment to do.
 
Apr 2, 2019 at 1:30 AM Post #6,345 of 18,627
Nick’s STREAM cables at 1.5m (I believe) we’re slightly but clearly better SQ than my heavily ferrited 2m cables.

Ray, those ones you tried were 1m Stream cables.
 

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