[HeeBroG]

A great review from John Atkinson in Stereophile:

https://www.stereophile.com/content/chord-electronics-hugo-m-scaler-upsampling-digital-processor

In the article, JS states DoP is -6dB down. I always thought it was -3dB. Is that the same with Blu2?

G

 

[hmartin]

In the article, JS states DoP is -6dB down. I always thought it was -3dB. Is that the same with Blu2?

G

I think pcm is -3 dB and dsd is -6dB so the difference is -3dB that is, relative to pcm dsd is -3dB.

 

[ZappaMan]

amazingly smooth saxophone on the song Bedouin Trail. It’s something else.

 

[musickid]

only available in mqa on tidal/roon. looking good though.

 

[ZappaMan]

only available in mqa on tidal/roon. looking good though.

I have it on qobuz too

 

[Peti]

This product is very intriguing to me, however, I do have a question that I can not find an answer for. What if I did the upsampling off line, producing a a new library of modified files as I have ample storage avaiable. Once complete, I can just play back your modified files without all the possible noise production caused by the processing while listening.

 

[Triode User]

This product is very intriguing to me, however, I do have a question that I can not find an answer for. What if I did the upsampling off line, producing a a new library of modified files as I have ample storage avaiable. Once complete, I can just play back your modified files without all the possible noise production caused by the processing while listening.

I seem to remember a discussion about file size which was enormous so your ample storage may turn out not to be ample. I think the research project Davina being developed has the facility to produce recordable Mscaled files.

 

[Peti]

Well, I am still curious if a redbook track if being upsampled with a quality upsampling method (like the Izotope RX program, or even better, the Weiss Saracon) can be as effective as the M scaler? Again, in my case anyway, storage is not an issue.

 

[miketlse]

Well, I am still curious if a redbook track if being upsampled with a quality upsampling method (like the Izotope RX program, or even better, the Weiss Saracon) can be as effective as the M scaler? Again, in my case anyway, storage is not an issue.

You are essentially going to reignite the HQPlayer debate, except this time based on the Izotope RX program or the Weiss Saracon program.
You will find two opposing firmly entrenched viewpoints.
Just satisfy your curiousity, by using that software, and then posting your findings on this thread, to try and help inform the debate.

 

[Peti]

Well, my intention was anything but reigniting any debates here, I was merely looking for an answer but what I surmise from your post is that there is no consensus on this subject (either). I did not read through this thread so I was not aware of the HQPlayer vs. M-Scaler debate earlier on. Endless apologies for disturbing the peaceful flow of this thread.

 

[hmartin]

Well, I am still curious if a redbook track if being upsampled with a quality upsampling method (like the Izotope RX program, or even better, the Weiss Saracon) can be as effective as the M scaler? Again, in my case anyway, storage is not an issue.

It makes no sense to upsample offline.
Assume 2tb flac gives 4tb wav gives upsampled 96tb i.e. 7 14tb discs + 2 for raid + cabinet gives cost 550*9+1200 = 6150. Better to buy hms.

 

[miketlse]

Well, my intention was anything but reigniting any debates here, I was merely looking for an answer but what I surmise from your post is that there is no consensus on this subject (either). I did not read through this thread so I was not aware of the HQPlayer vs. M-Scaler debate earlier on. Endless apologies for disturbing the peaceful flow of this thread.

No need to apologise, but the views are entrenched about software upscaling v hardware upscaling.
So just trying to point out that you will not find a consensus.

 

[zenlisten]

It makes no sense to upsample offline.
Assume 2tb flac gives 4tb wav gives upsampled 96tb i.e. 7 14tb discs + 2 for raid + cabinet gives cost 550*9+1200 = 6150. Better to buy hms.

Did somebody also consider network bandwidth, in case of streaming?

 

[llamaluv]

The question of how the M Scaler fares against competing PC-based software upsampling solutions is pretty germane to this thread (#justsayin).

I've done a few listening session comparisons to try to satisfy my own curiosity on this topic, and have preferred both over the DAVE alone. But have also preferred the M Scaler over HQPlayer (using various filters) each time, enough so to remain committed to keeping it as my upsampler of choice, at least for the time being.

What I'd really like, though, is for the M Scaler to be offered as a PC software product.

 

[Progisus]

Well, my intention was anything but reigniting any debates here, I was merely looking for an answer but what I surmise from your post is that there is no consensus on this subject (either). I did not read through this thread so I was not aware of the HQPlayer vs. M-Scaler debate earlier on. Endless apologies for disturbing the peaceful flow of this thread.

No debate. lol