[vvanrij]

Oh god not again...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dither

Read up on dithering, its not perfect!

This still would be a great discussion, but indeed for the audio science forum, not here.

 

[gregorio]

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Originally Posted by vvanrij /img/forum/go_quote.gif Oh god not again... Dither - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Read up on dithering, its not perfect! This still would be a great discussion, but indeed for the audio science forum, not here.

Yes it is perfect!!

If you want to start this up again ask a question in the Audio Science forum. I suggest you learn a little more about digital audio theory first though!

G

 

[b0dhi]

Quote:

Originally Posted by vvanrij /img/forum/go_quote.gif Oh god not again... Dither - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Read up on dithering, its not perfect! This still would be a great discussion, but indeed for the audio science forum, not here.

Save your breath. Gregorio has no intention of listening to anything you say. He has made up his mind and his only purpose is to convince others of it.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

DO NOT use the winamp bridge. It introduces a lot of artifacts in to the sound (Just run a sweep from 20-20k and you will hear it). If you are going to use electriq use the VST version.

 

[leeperry]

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Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove /img/forum/go_quote.gif DO NOT use the winamp bridge. It introduces a lot of artifacts in to the sound (Just run a sweep from 20-20k and you will hear it). If you are going to use electriq use the VST version.

ORLY

I know its author pretty well, and I don't see how it could do such a thing? are you sure it's not artifacts due to your head response?

I use it in 32float in ffdshow, and can't hear a diff between ElectriQ winamp and ElectriQ VST through the VST bridge ?!

anyway, I've added dampening...I've got far less resonances...I crave so badly for wooden cups at this point

sounds like the cheapest one is the AT W10k ? plus it's got cups shapped like the cd3k to widen the SS

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

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Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif ORLY I know its author pretty well, and I don't see how it could do such a thing? are you sure it's not artifacts due to your head response? I use it in 32float in ffdshow, and can't hear a diff between ElectriQ winamp and ElectriQ VST through the VST bridge ?!

No the artifacts I hear are extra frequencies added to my sweep. For clarification I am using the latest build of FB2k and have the audio set of ASIO out.

 

[leeperry]

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Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove /img/forum/go_quote.gif No the artifacts I hear are extra frequencies added to my sweep. For clarification I am using the latest build of FB2k and have the audio set of ASIO out.

right, the Foobar Winamp Bridge, not written by Christian Budde...is it?

what kind of "artefacts"? I'd like to try now

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

I am pretty sure it is the one on the first page of this thread.

As I said generate a 20-20k sweep, add the bridge to your DSP list, listen, then take it off and listen again.

 

[leeperry]

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Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove /img/forum/go_quote.gif I am pretty sure it is the one on the first page of this thread. As I said generate a 20-20k sweep, add the bridge to your DSP list, listen, then take it off and listen again.

I don't use foobar, I'll try w/ Christian Budde's VST bridge.

hah, my 770 sings now w/ dampening

the sound is lot more "dry" now, the stock cups had tons of elements that would make bad resonances

 

[leeperry]

darn, you're right...Christian's VST bridge also sweeps at 0:13, where it only starts sweeping at 0:16 in FFX4 or w/o any plugin

I guess I have to find another way to use VST plugins altogether..

 

[gregorio]

Quote:

Originally Posted by b0dhi /img/forum/go_quote.gif Save your breath. Gregorio has no intention of listening to anything you say. He has made up his mind and his only purpose is to convince others of it.

It's got nothing to do with making up my mind, I'm just recounting the facts. Anyway, I created a thread in the science forum so we don't need to continue it here!

G

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

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Originally Posted by leeperry /img/forum/go_quote.gif darn, you're right...Christian's VST bridge also sweeps at 0:13, where it only starts sweeping at 0:16 in FFX4 or w/o any plugin I guess I have to find another way to use VST plugins altogether..

...what player are you using?

 

[leeperry]

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Originally Posted by Dr. Strangelove /img/forum/go_quote.gif ...what player are you using?

MPC + ffdshow, for many reasons :
-very fast to open and plays instantly(foobar is slow)
-very small GUI(foobar GUI is HUGE)
-enables me to decode mp3 in 32 float, process DSP in 32float, and send 32 float to my soundcard drivers(I leave it to them to convert to integer)...yada yada it doesn't matter, I find it sounds WAY better than foobar's mp3 decoder w/ 16/24 integer DSP

ffdshow works w/ winamp2/DX plugins(through the FFX-4 wrapper), but no VST...because the VST bridge sweeps

 

[Ashirgo]

Yesterday I tried a flat equalisation for my HD 555 and now their sound without any equalisation (or with my previous one) is just unbearable!

That is, I prefer that flat (with the resonance eliminated and spikes in the lowest register) to any.

Just one thing: it is too much like a SR-303's in its sound reproduction and highs are sometimes exaggerated (recording-dependent, I believe).

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

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Originally Posted by Ashirgo /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yesterday I tried a flat equalisation for my HD 555 and now their sound without any equalization (or with my previous one) is just unbearable!

I quite agree. Music sounds a lot less harsh... clearer. With out the HF masking you can discern other frequencies easier, play music louder.

Sounds a lot more like a speaker system now.