HiSoundAudio(?) RoCoo MP3 player with class A amp

[fatman]

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Originally Posted by rymd /img/forum/go_quote.gif the AMP3 was also a metallic brick. This thing looks light..

ROCOO also employs a metallic enclosure. it is not as light as my previous imagine. The weight is about 50G ( I don't have balance to measure it). The weighter body implys the decent sound quality? Maybe Hisoundaudio intend to do so. they seems like metallic enclosure.

 

[a_tumiwa]

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Originally Posted by fatman /img/forum/go_quote.gif . Jack Fu from Hisoundaudio told me there are two versions of ROCOO, ROCOO-A employs the class A amp, the battery time will be around 10 hours ( i still didn't have time to test it) ROCOO-B employs the class AB amp. battery time will be 30 hours.

Rocoo-B? hm... so they already change the model name, before that they used name Rocoo-S

 

[fatman]

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Originally Posted by a_tumiwa /img/forum/go_quote.gif Rocoo-B? hm... so they already change the model name, before that they used name Rocoo-S

I don't know, Maybe they will also have ROCOO-S too. At current, Hisoundaudio has 3 products lines: ROCOO,( ROCOO-A, ROCOO-B, ROCOO-??) AMP3,(PRO1, PRO2, xxx? and STUDIO(Studio-U(?), Studio(1?), STUDIO-C (customized) . maybe be each line will have many models.

 

[a_tumiwa]

i think they also have GumStick player??? plus 1 new IEM (or maybe 2??)

 

[shigzeo]

Well, it looks good. I am glad HiSound are sticking to the guns: not supporting BBE, but that isn't what a number of users might like to hear. Looking forward to further impressions, hopefully from some 2004-onward headfiers too. Thanks Fatman for early impressions.

 

[dfkt]

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Originally Posted by fatman /img/forum/go_quote.gif there is a "hidden" OLED screen, when operation, it will appear, this is very ingenious design.

It's just an OLED under a silvery plastic screen. It's been used in several Sony, Panasonic, etc players. That player design rips off Sony anyways.

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Originally Posted by fatman /img/forum/go_quote.gif There is no BBE. JACK told me, they don't like the artificiall sound effect. also, there is no EQ,just like amp3.

And he tries to get customers with patronizing d*****bag comments like that? I don't care what *he* likes or doesn't like. BBE are excellent studio quality sound enhancements, not some muddy junk like SRS WOW and similar. *I* be the judge of what is "Hifi" for me, not Jack from HiSound... I bet he's just too stingy to pay for licensing. Anyways, I just lost all interest I had in that thing.

 

[shigzeo]

DFKT - you have a point. I have been impressed by a number of cheap players, but they cut corners by skipping licensing (Meizu with MP3), or impose a certain value structure on users.

While I don't care much for BBE (though admittedly, it is very good at what it does), it is too much when makers ignore or shunt features for ideology.

 

[anadin]

No sound enchancement or EQ for me thank-you very much.

 

[kunalraiker]

I always used BBE, and was at a stage where I would buy the S9 as an upgrade to my iAudio7 only because it had the latest version of BBE.

You know why I scrapped my idea,because I found Head-Fi

I've not gone back to any DSP enhancements ever since.

 

[swanlee]

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Originally Posted by fatman /img/forum/go_quote.gif I just received a sample of ROCOO-A offered by Hisoundaudio for testing and evaluation. Jack Fu from Hisoundaudio told me there are two versions of ROCOO, ROCOO-A employs the class A amp, the battery time will be around 10 hours ( i still didn't have time to test it) ROCOO-B employs the class AB amp. battery time will be 30 hours. there is a "hidden" OLED screen, when operation, it will appear, this is very ingenious design. There is no BBE. JACK told me, they don't like the artificiall sound effect. also, there is no EQ,just like amp3. My first impression of the sound quality is amazing and incredible. it also can boost well with my HD 600. By the way, the IEM with the player also very decent, maybe on par of these phones of sub-$ 150. My sample is ROCOO-A. I will post more when further familiar with it.

Lame, No EQ means no buy for me. Why all these high end players without even the simplest tone controls? Thankfully the SFLO2 has great SQ and an EQ. I know purists hate tone controls but for the rest of the world the options would be nice.

Purists can always just turn the EQ off if they want. And you can be an audiophile and still want to adjust the SQ to your own personal liking not all of us are purists.

 

[shigzeo]

The thing about EQ is that purists shouldn't argue about anything. There is no such thing as hearing it the way the musician or engineer intended unless you sit in the same spot, using the same monitors, same board, same amps, pre-amps, everything. EQ is important not only because certain players have bias towards a certain sound, but some cannot produce certain frequencies with certain earphones/headphones.

Another is that headphones introduce their own biases - EQ is important and is a shame that some companies shunt in favour of ideology.

 

[fatman]

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Originally Posted by swanlee /img/forum/go_quote.gif Lame, No EQ means no buy for me. Why all these high end players without even the simplest tone controls? Thankfully the SFLO2 has great SQ and an EQ. I know purists hate tone controls but for the rest of the world the options would be nice. Purists can always just turn the EQ off if they want. And you can be an audiophile and still want to adjust the SQ to your own personal liking not all of us are purists.

Sorry, my fault, Because I have not so familiar with the new arrival ROCOO, I made a mistake. In fact ROCOO has EQs.

And I have contacted with Hisoundaudio for other models of the EQ things. they answered the hi end models will have no EQ settings.

I think the reason of hi end players have no EQ is that more functions will effect the final sound quality. it is not that simple to just turn off the EQ to get the pure sound quality. Maybe be I am wrong.

By the way, even though i fond out there are EQs, and I have tried, the EQ in ROCOO is useless, they are really can't improve the sound quality to my preference. Maybe more and more users will have the same conclusion as mine.

As for the BBE sound effects, my abservation is the class A amp with ROCOO is much better than any of my DAPs which has the BBE sound effects, also, more and more users willl have their conclusions. Let's don't make the definitely conclusion too early.

 

[mp3]

I also have the ROCOO for evaluation, and I must say, I'm pretty impressed so far. It sounds "cleaner" than my Cowon D2 and has a bigger soundstage. It doesn't have BBE, but does have Microsoft FX, which are "ok", but it sounds really great without any EQ.

More to come later on, when I have gotten more used to it.

 

[swanlee]

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Originally Posted by mp3 /img/forum/go_quote.gif I also have the ROCOO for evaluation, and I must say, I'm pretty impressed so far. It sounds "cleaner" than my Cowon D2 and has a bigger soundstage. It doesn't have BBE, but does have Microsoft FX, which are "ok", but it sounds really great without any EQ. More to come later on, when I have gotten more used to it.

That's good but last I heard MS FX does not work with .flac files which would leave lossless audio on this device practically un adjustable.

Can you report on what EQ type adjustments are available for .flac files on the player.

 

[FYJX]

My RoCoo is currently charging...i'll let you guys know by tonight or tomorrow