[jlbrach]

I love the susvara but dont kid yourself the TC is special

 

[paradoxper]

Haven’t heard the 1266 TC but heard it has issues with the presentation of the mids.

Depart with the delusion of perfection. Every headphone presents a concession or sins of commission.

 

[LarsMan]

I love the susvara but dont kid yourself the TC is special

They sound so different, don't you think some people might just prefer the Susvara to the TC without 'kidding themselves'?

 

[Pashmeister]

They sound so different, don't you think some people might just prefer the Susvara to the TC without 'kidding themselves'?

I enjoy both. I dunno which one I prefer, but there are weeks where one has more ear time than the other. Right now it’s the Sus.

 

[OceanRanger]

They sound so different, don't you think some people might just prefer the Susvara to the TC without 'kidding themselves'?

I enjoy each of them for very different reasons. When I spend more than two weeks listening to one, I contemplate selling the other. I tell myself to try the second pair one more time before I post a classified listing. Then fall in love with the second pair all over again and the process repeats. The Susvaras make me appreciate the TCs and vice versa.

 

[jlbrach]

They sound so different, don't you think some people might just prefer the Susvara to the TC without 'kidding themselves'?

I say kidding yourself in the sense that the TC is not a special HP..I have both and love both

 

[jlbrach]

I enjoy each of them for very different reasons. When I spend more than two weeks listening to one, I contemplate selling the other. I tell myself to try the second pair one more time before I post a classified listing. Then fall in love with the second pair all over again and the process repeats. The Susvaras make me appreciate the TCs and vice versa.

thats wild because I do exactly the same thing...cant tell you how many times I have thought I could live with one or the other only to change my mind upon listening to the other again

 

[IZONE]

thats wild because I do exactly the same thing...cant tell you how many times I have thought I could live with one or the other only to change my mind upon listening to the other again

For me what's wilder is that I cannot sell even my "lower-tier" headphones because they sound just as good as my "flagships" on some nights. I tried giving my Denon D9200, LCD-X 2021, and Beyerdynamic T1 a "final audition" before being sold and all three sing like F#cking angels and blow mind with how good they are... sigh. I don't need to sell them except for my 'psychological barrier' that says I must sell some to "justify" purchasing more (LCD-5, Elite, Solitaire P, Hugo TT/Scaler, WA33, etc. etc.) but sadly cannot seem to let any of them go.

Don't get me wrong the Susvara, Utopia, D8K Pro, LCD-4Z do sound "better" (yes more details, blah blah blah) but at a point where it doesn't really matter. I think I just have to admit that my ears have gotten old... too old and not sensitive enough to distinguish between 'mid-fi' champs and modern TOTL. I started in my late teens with the 3 best headphones in the world, the HD650, K701, DT880, driven from first generation headphone amps from companies that no longer really exist. I've aged sadly and have become less critical / cantankerous My ears and brain are not up to snuff.

Honestly, the LCD-X 2021/D9200 driven from a Bifrost 2 / SA-1 ten years ago would have blown everyone's socks off and would have been god-tier. Now they are mid-fi (sort of). I'm even happy with the Bifrost 2 / Qutest / GS-X Mini even after hearing the TT2/M-Scaler with the WA33 (yes they are better of course) but I think I've reached some kind of threshold where I can groove to the music without worrying at all... confused about where to head next or just stay and enjoy for a while until my ears age even more (I do enjoy having a large harem of headphones as I'm kind of a head-fi pervert) - hopefully in ten years I can leave this hobby and listen to whatever wireless garbage Apple has released in 2031- old man with blissful dead ears (at that point I'll randomly pick some kid on Head-Fi and send him my Susvara)

 

[iFi audio]

WHEN DRIVEN WELL the susvaras have fantastic mids and a very detailed and full bottom end (as well as everything else).

Yes, when driven well the're very even all across the board and that's their main appeal. Also, don't bash me folks if I've said it already

 

[thecrow]

Yes, when driven well the're very even all across the board and that's their main appeal. Also, don't bash me folks if I've said it already

Sometimes in this thread it needs to be said again - at least that’s how i feel.

Maybe “when driven well” should be reduced to ”WDW” for this thread. At least for us with the same view

However, YMMV,

TL;DR
WDW = when driven well

 

[iFi audio]

TL;DR
WDW = when driven well

 

[migo]

Thanx bro !

I'm really curious about your Susvara experience and comparison with HEkSE.

 

[Pashmeister]

Sometimes in this thread it needs to be said again - at least that’s how i feel.

Maybe “when driven well” should be reduced to ”WDW” for this thread. At least for us with the same view

However, YMMV,

TL;DR
WDW = when driven well

Does WDW include clean power? Because I’m finding a Susvara driven by a chain with very very clean power to be amazing. Difference with clean power is so noticeable, I feel the differences in opinion on amp pairings might be due to the confounding factor of power hygiene and power paraphernalia’s ability to aid in instantaneous current delivery.

 

[iFi audio]

Does WDW include clean power? Because I’m finding a Susvara driven by a chain with very very clean power to be amazing. Difference with clean power is so noticeable, I feel the differences in opinion on amp pairings might be due to the confounding factor of power hygiene and power paraphernalia’s ability to aid in instantaneous current delivery.

Many people would agree that power components are of paramount importance and make more difference than any other accessory out there. Our Pro Signature range features our iPower Elite because this one power supply changes a lot as far as performance goes.

 

[Bonesy Jonesy]

Then I need to thank you (and FedEx) for making this happen. I still think someone didn't realize how front-heavy the power supply unit is and just dropped it on the floor, since the hard case and foam add plenty of protection and seem perfect inside and out. Anyway just for this weekend I decided to take off my reviewer hat and just enjoy the Susvara for the first time ever, and that happened to be with the EF1000 too. I may have shed a tear or two listening to some of my favorite songs. Here's what I mentioned on the Reddit post too:


Tomorrow onward it gets more critical, especially with the LCD-5 arriving on Tuesday and some Dekoni pads on Wednesday. But before all that is written up I have plenty of other reviews to do, including the HE400se and the HE1000se.

Hi vsg28, How's it going with the Hifiman EF1000 demo unit ?