Is $4380 USD a good price for new Susvara's?
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HiFiMan Susvara
+/- 3yrs ago I paid $3750.00Is $4380 USD a good price for new Susvara's?
ufospls2
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+/- 3yrs ago I paid $3750.00
Supposedly dealer cost has gone up (as has every cost lately it seems, covid I suppose) so perhaps 4350 is more in line with current "good" pricing. Not sure.
I agree that prices have gone up on everything, but I do think the Susvara could be had for less.Supposedly dealer cost has gone up (as has every cost lately it seems, covid I suppose) so perhaps 4350 is more in line with current "good" pricing. Not sure.
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I agree that prices have gone up on everything, but I do think the Susvara could be had for less.
But as the dealer cost on the Susvara in particular has gone up (that was my point) then $4350 may be about as low as you can go nowadays. Unless the dealer is losing money, which dealers wont do.
AD's have 40% to play around with and still make money so I still think that the Susvara can be had for less.But as the dealer cost on the Susvara in particular has gone up (that was my point) then $4350 may be about as low as you can go nowadays. Unless the dealer is losing money, which dealers wont do.
Ok, went through the search function and read everything regarding the TT2. I didn't get a clear answer.
Is the rear XLR for the TT2 enough to power the Susvara to their potential? If not, does it get 90% there? Thanks.
Is the rear XLR for the TT2 enough to power the Susvara to their potential? If not, does it get 90% there? Thanks.
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Lowest I have seen on the Sus is $4300. Seems like the dealer cost has gone up compared to years prior.
OceanRanger
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The Susvaras arrived today and I am really, really enjoying them. Despite the steep price, I have no regrets with this purchase. There have been many comparisons of the sound characteristics between the Susvaras and the 1266s. I don’t have unique impressions to contribute to those comparisons, but I will add a metaphor (or simile) to the mix.
If these two headphones were vehicles parked in my garage, I would describe them in the following way…They are both fast. They both handle incredibly well. I really enjoy driving each of them, but I like to drive them for very different reasons.
The 1266s, to me, are a bit like a Ducati. If I were going on a short trip, perhaps Highway 1 from Carmel to Big Sur and back, then I’d want to be driving the 1266s. Just starting the engine causes an emotional and visceral reaction. The 1266s handle like a sport bike on a twisty road. There is enough power to quickly and confidently pass a slow-moving RV. I can feel every groove in the pavement. The fun-factor dial goes to 11. They have a very forward-leaning and aggressive riding position. However, riding these things for more than half a day gets uncomfortable and a bit tiring.
The Susvaras, to me, are more like a Porsche 911 Cabriolet. They are fast and they handle well. You still get wind in your hair. However, they are more refined. They allow for lean-back driving experience. While not quite as fun as the Ducati on each curve, the 911 is more enjoyable for a long drive. if I were going on a three-day trip through the mountains, I’d want to be driving the Susvaras.
For Head-fiers not familiar with this portion of the Pacific Coast Highway, I apologize for the hyper-local reference. It is an awesome stretch of pavement. I’ll also confess that I hesitated to use this metaphor as I’m sure that many of you will have different thoughts on cars and motorcycles which, to you, might be more analogous to these headphones.
If these two headphones were vehicles parked in my garage, I would describe them in the following way…They are both fast. They both handle incredibly well. I really enjoy driving each of them, but I like to drive them for very different reasons.
The 1266s, to me, are a bit like a Ducati. If I were going on a short trip, perhaps Highway 1 from Carmel to Big Sur and back, then I’d want to be driving the 1266s. Just starting the engine causes an emotional and visceral reaction. The 1266s handle like a sport bike on a twisty road. There is enough power to quickly and confidently pass a slow-moving RV. I can feel every groove in the pavement. The fun-factor dial goes to 11. They have a very forward-leaning and aggressive riding position. However, riding these things for more than half a day gets uncomfortable and a bit tiring.
The Susvaras, to me, are more like a Porsche 911 Cabriolet. They are fast and they handle well. You still get wind in your hair. However, they are more refined. They allow for lean-back driving experience. While not quite as fun as the Ducati on each curve, the 911 is more enjoyable for a long drive. if I were going on a three-day trip through the mountains, I’d want to be driving the Susvaras.
For Head-fiers not familiar with this portion of the Pacific Coast Highway, I apologize for the hyper-local reference. It is an awesome stretch of pavement. I’ll also confess that I hesitated to use this metaphor as I’m sure that many of you will have different thoughts on cars and motorcycles which, to you, might be more analogous to these headphones.
OceanRanger
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This might be stretching the metaphor a bit too far…… but if headphone cables were like tires, Porsche would get serious demerits for shipping these stock tires. I don’t like the feel of this rubber.
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The legendary rubber noodle cable!This might be stretching the metaphor a bit too far…… but if headphone cables were like tires, Porsche would get serious demerits for shipping these stock tires. I don’t like the feel of this rubber.
I would even say that the stock cable can be equated to you getting that porsche from a heroine dealer who forgot his needles and rubber cord (used to wrap around your limb before inserting the needle). Susvara stock cable is that rubber cord.This might be stretching the metaphor a bit too far…… but if headphone cables were like tires, Porsche would get serious demerits for shipping these stock tires. I don’t like the feel of this rubber.
Looks like this could possibly be a fun/worthwhile/surprising consideration?
SMSL VMV A1 class A amplifier
Specs:
It looks like there is a headphone output at the back, labeled at 32ohm that seems like it’s for headphones like TC and Susvara without the need for speaker terminal adapters…
SMSL VMV A1 class A amplifier
Specs:
It looks like there is a headphone output at the back, labeled at 32ohm that seems like it’s for headphones like TC and Susvara without the need for speaker terminal adapters…
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The Susvaras, to me, are more like a Porsche 911 Cabriolet. They are fast and they handle well. You still get wind in your hair. However, they are more refined. They allow for lean-back driving experience. While not quite as fun as the Ducati on each curve, the 911 is more enjoyable for a long drive. if I were going on a three-day trip through the mountains, I’d want to be driving the Susvaras.
For Head-fiers not familiar with this portion of the Pacific Coast Highway, I apologize for the hyper-local reference. It is an awesome stretch of pavement. I’ll also confess that I hesitated to use this metaphor as I’m sure that many of you will have different thoughts on cars and motorcycles which, to you, might be more analogous to these headphones.
This might be stretching the metaphor a bit too far…… but if headphone cables were like tires, Porsche would get serious demerits for shipping these stock tires. I don’t like the feel of this rubber.
Hmm I have a 911 and prefer Susvara over TC so your analogy was a bit.. uncanny.. to me. I also enjoyed your reference as a local, that stretch around Big Sur is one of the most scenic drives in the US.
P.S. Coincidentally Porsche does ship their Carreras w/ pretty mediocre tires, though not as bad in magnitude as stock Susvara cables.
OceanRanger
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Thanks for this post @koven . Amusingly, when I slipped the Susvaras on today for the first time the smell of the ear pads reminded me exactly of the new car smell.Hmm I have a 911 and prefer Susvara over TC so your analogy was a bit.. uncanny.. to me. I also enjoyed your reference as a local, that stretch around Big Sur is one of the most scenic drives in the US.
P.S. Coincidentally Porsche does ship their Carreras w/ pretty mediocre tires, though not as bad in magnitude as stock Susvara cables.