[jlbrach]

It's not the same as the EF1000..... different topology for the pre-amp and power amp and inferior to the EF1000 !

if you do not use it for efficient speakers it is more than powerful enough for the susvara...14 watts I believe if memory serves me.....I gave it a pretty good listen ast canjam

 

[up late]

A lot of wildly contradicting claims here...

it's always like this in the lead up to a (major) new product launch - rumours and speculation abound

 

[antdroid]

You guys all speculate the end game, but I cant wait to see HE400Z SE Black and Gold Edition for $119 USD as the new product announcement.

 

[jmanpd]

it's always like this in the lead up to a (major) new product launch - rumours and speculation abound

I wonder if the insiders follow the thread and just have a laugh

 

[ThanatosVI]

You guys all speculate the end game, but I cant wait to see HE400Z SE Black and Gold Edition for $119 USD as the new product announcement.

If they don't sound like the old OLD He400, nobody cares.

Starting with 400i the 400 series went to crap

 

[Nomax]

I wonder if the insiders follow the thread and just have a laugh

Of course

NOMAX

PS.

 

[Trance_Gott]

With tuning 1 and 2 for the Composer I also would laugh.

 

[Fegefeuer]

 

[Bonesy Jonesy]

if you do not use it for efficient speakers it is more than powerful enough for the susvara...14 watts I believe if memory serves me.....I gave it a pretty good listen ast canjam

Power output aside between the two....it's still a different topology which theoretically makes a significant difference to the sound plus on top of that you can connect a much higher grade DAC to the EF1000 than what the in-built DAC of the EF1000DAC has to offer ! .

So all in all, theoretically the EF1000 with a high quality DAC should give you a higher level of musical experiences than the EF1000DAC will !

However, I can imagine the EF1000DAC is a very good Amp & DAC combo for a lot of different headphones. It would be good to do a direct A to B comparison between the EF1000DAC and the EF1000 with a DAC of the same / similar topology that the EF1000's DAC has built in.

If I was starting from scratch again, I would still go for the EF1000 with a separate DAC as an 'end-game' headphone system over the EF1000DAC, even it is was a lot more money as I would have far greater flexibility over input sources, can also use it for speakers (which I do and is very good) and knowing that I have THE best Amp for the Susvara (which I love) currently on the planet ! Of course, if I had multiple headphones and didn't care much for the Susvara, I would definitely also look at other TOTL end-game Headphone Amps that would definitely include the Trafomatic Primavera (with a multitude of DACs) and Aries Cerat Genus (with the Helena DAC).

 

[ThanatosVI]

With tuning 1 and 2 for the Composer I also would laugh.

Tuning 1 and 2?

Are there several Versions of it out there?

 

[Trance_Gott]

Tuning 1 and 2?

Are there several Versions of it out there?

Let @Nomax explain

 

[Nomax]

Tuning 1 and 2?

Are there several Versions of it out there?

Not that I know of

NOMAX

PS.lol

 

[ThanatosVI]

Let @Nomax explain

Not that I know of

NOMAX

PS.lol

Well that was helpful

 

[BORUSSIA]

Hey guys, what’s the easiest and cheapest way to drive the Susvara to a good level?

 

[theveterans]

Hey guys, what’s the easiest and cheapest way to drive the Susvara to a good level?

Flux Mentor / Schiit Mjolnir 3 / Ferrum OOR