[antdroid]

Anyone with V2's and any other Hifiman thst has a suspension strap headband, take pictures comparing the stretched out width of the headphones, and if anyone also has a sundara, a side-by-side would be fantastic. We need evidence of this stuff. People are skeptical about the severity of the issues, and are saying they just need to break in, or people just aren't used to it etc.

Someone on slickdeals just said their v2 headband suspension strap measured 8.25 inches. https://slickdeals.net/f/11829663-h...s-300-free-shipping?p=118000975#post118000975

 

[MF Kitten]

That's very interesting. We need more direct comparisons with the Sundara to confirm thatit is indeed defective.

 

[Th3Drizzl3]

interesting. the pair i actually handled today was for sure not we measured it three times to be sure. ill wait till my actual pair is in hand tomm and let you guys know. im tempted to order another pair and see what i get between the two

 

[Peekeesh]

Does it sound different in a bad way? Like a step down the v1?

I actually can get a good fit, I just had to move the suspension strap more forward on my head.

I also can say without a doubt the v2's sound different than the originals. Well, at least my pair do.

 

[MF Kitten]

Exactly how are you measuring it? From inside each earcup?

 

[heliosphann]

Okay, I think I know what's going on. Here's my earlier post:

I just measured the gap between earpads on the 560 v2 and the Sundara. This is with the suspension band pulled fully taught.

The Sundara has about 8" of space, while the 560 v2 has about 6.8" of room. That's a pretty big difference.

I wasn't talking about the actual length of the suspension strap. That is indeed about 8.25", which is the same length as the Sundara's (I just measured both). The difference is the cups on the v2's are a lot thicker than the Sundara's. That's why their is a big gap difference between the two headphones. HiFiman needed to use a longer strap to compensate for the difference, but apparently the just used the Sundara's strap.

 

[heliosphann]

Does it sound different in a bad way? Like a step down the v1?

Yes, unfortunately. I went into it more detail in an earlier post a few pages back.

 

[Th3Drizzl3]

Okay, I think I know what's going on. Here's my earlier post:



I wasn't talking about the actual length of the suspension strap. That is indeed about 8.25", which is the same length as the Sundara's (I just measured both). The difference is the cups on the v2's are a lot thicker than the Sundara's. That's why their is a big gap difference between the two headphones. HiFiman needed to use a longer strap to compensate for the difference, but apparently the just used the Sundara's strap.

correct. thats what i was measuring BUT the actual strap on this pair was not 8.25" i dont remember the exact number but it was closer to 8" or just under. i think we all got mixed up in that regard. one of the people who brought one of the sets i was able to look at has a much larger head then i do and he found them much to small.

 

[antdroid]

Okay, I think I know what's going on. Here's my earlier post:



I wasn't talking about the actual length of the suspension strap. That is indeed about 8.25", which is the same length as the Sundara's (I just measured both). The difference is the cups on the v2's are a lot thicker than the Sundara's. That's why their is a big gap difference between the two headphones. HiFiman needed to use a longer strap to compensate for the difference, but apparently the just used the Sundara's strap.

Ah Ok. Thanks for the clarification.

6.8inches is actually about how far my HE560 ear cups are on my head. but if that's the max it will go, that could be pretty uncomfortable.

 

[MF Kitten]

That settles it then. They used the same headband, but failed to adress the fact that there's more cup.

 

[heliosphann]

So much drama over "v2 gate"!

All I know for sure is this:

-My Sundara's, which appear to have the exact same headband/suspension strap system as the 560 v2's, are very comfortable for me. I've had them for a few months now and never had any issues.
-I find the 560 v2's not comfortable and feel like the suspension strap is so tight it might break. This is regardless of what notch you adjust them to.
-Despite having the same pads and what appears to be the exact same driver/magnet structure, the v2's sound different from the original 560's. Not necessarily in a good way. I went into more detail in an earlier post in this thread.
-HiFiMan, amirite?!?

 

[MF Kitten]

So much drama over "v2 gate"!

All I know for sure is this:

-My Sundara's, which appear to have the exact same headband/suspension strap system as the 560 v2's, are very comfortable for me. I've had them for a few months now and never had any issues.
-I find the 560 v2's not comfortable and feel like the suspension strap is so tight it might break. This is regardless of what notch you adjust them to.
-Despite having the same pads and what appears to be the exact same driver/magnet structure, the v2's sound different from the original 560's. Not necessarily in a good way. I went into more detail in an earlier post in this thread.
-HiFiMan, amirite?!?

But comparing the two headbands you can confirm that they are identical?

Could you measure the distance from the headband's attachment to the cup, the pivot point, out to the edge of the cup, on both cans?

 

[Th3Drizzl3]

dang since i dont have sundaras here i was hoping that strap was longer. sounds like its not. ill have to look elsewhere for a longer strap and see how i can attach it. hmmmm

 

[heliosphann]

But comparing the two headbands you can confirm that they are identical?

Could you measure the distance from the headband's attachment to the cup, the pivot point, out to the edge of the cup, on both cans?

Yea, tomorrow. I'll also try and take a few pictures.

 

[DavidA]

I think we should call the current version V3 since the original was with SMC jacks, version 2 was with 2.5mm jacks and now version 3 with Sundara headband and different cups.
Anyone with the V3 took a picture of the drivers after removing the grills to see if they still have the back plate?