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Mar 11, 2021 at 1:01 PM Post #3,781 of 4,006
Introducing the convolution function on the HiBy R5 / R6 / R6pro / R8



So this is a plugin that has been hidden well since it was released. On these Android players with semi-recent firmware, system level audio plugins are available. Today I would like to point to one of these in particular. To start with, I’ll simply show all the taps required to start using it, in order: (it’s simpler than it looks)





With the convolution module finally open, you may select the “configuration file” for use with the module:


To get the ball rolling I’ll provide one of the better universal spatialization files I’ve created, for public use. Simply download this file to your R player and point this plugin to that file in the file browsing interface that comes up when you click as above:

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtuiwfIBRYFEgfYKqhO0dmaL6lnzkw?e=yuONdH

What is it?
It is hard to explain, although Wikipedia gives a technical one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convolution . In audio terms, I would put it as a way to specify filters for correcting audio output for specified output equipment (e.g. headphones) and / or simulate acoustic environments or setups (such as having the sounds of speakers coming from outside your head even while wearing headphones).



File formats
Convolution filters are specified as wave files, which to a computer are indistinguishable from the wave files of uncompressed PCM music. Here I will explain the different aspects of the wave files to look out for when choosing one for use with your system.

1. Sample rate
These filters are designed to work on music of a certain sample rate, and are themselves encoded at that same sample rate. On this plugin, convolver files are taken to be 44.1kHz and work on 44.1kHz files. By default, music files of other sample rates are not processed by the plugin; you can change this behaviour by unticking the “Other sample rate bypass” option in the interface.

2. No. of channels
The plugin may support wave files with 1, 2 or 4 channels, interpreting them in different ways. With single channel files, it applies the same filter described by that channel on both channels of music. With dual channel files, it applies each channel of filter on its corresponding music channel. With four channel files, the filters are applied in the following 4-way config which is instrumental in simulating a complete acoustic space with two speakers in room:





Done correctly, the cross-feeding channels not only do not narrow the soundstage, but can actually expand it, by providing realistic inter-aural cues for sounds even to the extreme left and right (which should not reach only one ear; the brain interprets this unnatural sound usually as a sound “inside” one ear rather than a sound to your left or right (which these filters should render correctly).



These spatialization filters are as many and varied as sand on the beach; for example, you can take matching pairs of wave files from the IRCAM database and put them together as your spatializer:

http://recherche.ircam.fr/equipes/salles/listen/



Or, you can go as far as to measure your own: https://www.head-fi.org/threads/recording-impulse-responses-for-speaker-virtualization.890719/



In other news, the expansive AutoEQ database provides a wealth of correction data for hundreds of different headphones, that you can use in this plugin as follows:



1. Go to https://github.com/jaakkopasanen/AutoEq/blob/master/results/

2. Search for the model of your headphones using Ctrl-F

3. Click into your model using the link in the list

4. Click on the [name of your headphones] minimum phase 44100Hz.wav link (e.g.) (do not right-click->save as), THEN save the file that comes up in the next page to your R player. Load the file in the convolution plugin.


(edit: unfortunately I must report that for now these is a bug in the convolver preventing these impulse files from AutoEQ from rendering correctly here. The problem manifests in periodic clicks in the output and the workaround for now is to insert a few samples of silence in front of the files downloaded here. I will work with HiBy to hopefully release a fix for this soon.)

It is also possible to combine headphone correction filtering with spatialization filtering, by convolving two wave files together before putting the resultant file in this module. You can do this by using the foobar convolution plugin, putting the 4-way spatialization wave file in the playlist and Converting it into a new 32-bit wave file using the headphone correction wave file as the convolver in DSP.

Finally, it is even possible to use this to apply any manner of parametric EQ or other effects to your R player, by simply first applying those effects to this base file
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtuiwfIBRYFEgfYLzA64ieH1dAeGPw?e=I1sCll

e.g. in foobar by putting this file into the playlist then Converting it into a new file with a parametric EQ DSP in the DSP chain

then putting the resultant file in your R player and loading it in the convolver module.

Hello head-fi forum,
This is my first post on this plattform.
I own a Hiby R6 pro and use it with an AKG 712 Pro and an Audioquest Nigthawk with balanced cable from "Heart Audio cable" and sometimes I use the player with a RHA t20i.

@Joe Bloggs: Thank you for this post in the R5 thread. I googled convolution plugin an Hiby R6 pro, and found this post.
And thanks for your universal spatialization file!! I downloaded it (follwing link) and installed it:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtuiwfIBRYFEgfYKqhO0dmaL6lnzkw?e=yuONdH

The effect is a m a z i n g with the AKG 712 pro. It´s exactly what was missing. I´m so touched by this sound.
Unfortunatelly there are some disturbing noise kinda distortion in the background. Some are similar noises like if you would plug the headphone in or out.

The current level in the Plugin is -3.1.

I´d be so happy if I could use this filter without disturbing noise.

Thanks! and

Many greetings
Dietmar
 
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Mar 12, 2021 at 5:29 AM Post #3,783 of 4,006
I too am interested in what I can do with the various plug-ins available the hiby R6 Pro. I run this with a pair of RHA T20 IEM and have not yet tried any plug-ins to improve the experience.
For sound quality or sound stage plug-ins what would you recommend trying? And where do I find them? Thanks in advance.
 
Mar 13, 2021 at 2:59 AM Post #3,784 of 4,006
Hello head-fi forum,
This is my first post on this plattform.
I own a Hiby R6 pro and use it with an AKG 712 Pro and an Audioquest Nigthawk with balanced cable from "Heart Audio cable" and sometimes I use the player with a RHA t20i.

@Joe Bloggs: Thank you for this post in the R5 thread. I googled convolution plugin an Hiby R6 pro, and found this post.
And thanks for your universal spatialization file!! I downloaded it (follwing link) and installed it:
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtuiwfIBRYFEgfYKqhO0dmaL6lnzkw?e=yuONdH

The effect is a m a z i n g with the AKG 712 pro. It´s exactly what was missing. I´m so touched by this sound.
Unfortunatelly there are some disturbing noise kinda distortion in the background. Some are similar noises like if you would plug the headphone in or out.

The current level in the Plugin is -3.1.

I´d be so happy if I could use this filter without disturbing noise.

Thanks! and

Many greetings
Dietmar
Hi Dietmar,

Thank you for your kind words :) the spatialization file may be affected by a small bug in the convolver which right now requires to start of the file be silence. I'll check it tonight and provide an update :)

Cheers,
Joe
 
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Mar 13, 2021 at 5:19 AM Post #3,785 of 4,006
I too am interested in what I can do with the various plug-ins available the hiby R6 Pro. I run this with a pair of RHA T20 IEM and have not yet tried any plug-ins to improve the experience.
For sound quality or sound stage plug-ins what would you recommend trying? And where do I find them? Thanks in advance.

I too am interested in what I can do with the various plug-ins available the hiby R6 Pro. I run this with a pair of RHA T20 IEM and have not yet tried any plug-ins to improve the experience.
For sound quality or sound stage plug-ins what would you recommend trying? And where do I find them? Thanks in advance.

Hello Chris,
you find the plugins in the > Audio settings > Plugins > then you tap this "wheel" in the right upper corner. Then you see two registers. One with lokal and one with online. You tab online. Then you tap on the required plugin to donwnload it. And now you can activate it in the first Plugin "window".

I tested yesterday with Hiby R6 pro and RHA T20i IEM and for me the best is without plugins and only with some MSEB settings for the bass cause the RHA T20i has a lot of bass.
There might be suitable filters, like Joe Bloggs described in his post.

My MSEB settings are for the RHA 20i are:
Bass extension -2
Bass texture -12

Tonality is Standard.

Gain is High.

Have a nice weekend.

Greetings
Dietmar
 
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Mar 13, 2021 at 5:44 AM Post #3,786 of 4,006
Hi Dietmar,

Thank you for your kind words :) the spatialization file may be affected by a small bug in the convolver which right now requires to start of the file be silence. I'll check it tonight and provide an update :)

Cheers,
Joe

Hi Joe,
thank you very much!

There is an update to the plugin filter:
For further explanation; I had also some distortions without any plugin and without MSEB and everything else Standard. Finally I found out that it´s only while I streame Musik from Deezer (I only listen with Deezer Hifi). With downloaded Musik from Deezer are no distortions.
I tried this also with your spatialization file and the noises and distortions are almost gone. There are some when switching songs for example.
I don´t know if it´s the Internet connection or something with WIFI on the device or simply something with the Deezer stream.

Hope this information is helpful in some way. But I´m still looking forward to an updated version. :)

Have a nice weekend!

Greetings
Dietmar
 
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Mar 13, 2021 at 9:27 AM Post #3,787 of 4,006
Hi Joe,
thank you very much!

There is an update to the plugin filter:
For further explanation; I had also some distortions without any plugin and without MSEB and everything else Standard. Finally I found out that it´s only while I streame Musik from Deezer (I only listen with Deezer Hifi). With downloaded Musik from Deezer are no distortions.
I tried this also with your spatialization file and the noises and distortions are almost gone. There are some when switching songs for example.
I don´t know if it´s the Internet connection or something with WIFI on the device or simply something with the Deezer stream.

Hope this information is helpful in some way. But I´m still looking forward to an updated version. :)

Have a nice weekend!

Greetings
Dietmar
I think there may be some unavoidable noise when switching songs manually (rather than playing from one song to the next)

I made a version that I thought would fix your problem as described but since the description has changed, maybe not 😅
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtuiwfIBRYFEgf1GGVG087FLddMHeQ?e=xATyuf
 
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Mar 14, 2021 at 12:31 PM Post #3,791 of 4,006
I think there may be some unavoidable noise when switching songs manually (rather than playing from one song to the next)

I made a version that I thought would fix your problem as described but since the description has changed, maybe not 😅
https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtuiwfIBRYFEgf1GGVG087FLddMHeQ?e=xATyuf
Thank you very much for your great work and information Joe. Sorry that i can't tell a difference at the moment but I can now enjoy the Plugin :)
Greetings
Dietmar
 
Mar 14, 2021 at 6:05 PM Post #3,792 of 4,006
WE REALLY NEED PURE MUSIC MODE
PLEASE GIVE IT TO US HIBY 😔
The HiByMusic app within the Android app is bit perfect and so are many other apps thanks to the Direct Transport Architecture.
 
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