[LarsP]

TH-900 sounds like a nice alternative as I share the office with my girlfriend.
 
For amplification, I've been looking at the Audio-gd Master 11, the Sim Audio Moon 430HA and the big Schiit stack (Ygg+Rag). I do however feel that the biggest change in sound signature will come from a new pair of headphones, so that is first on my list.

 

[Max Choiral]

  TH-900 sounds like a nice alternative as I share the office with my girlfriend.

If you want to become deaf - than Th900 is a good choice for metal

No midrange, besides upper midrange which is emphasized and spiky + spiky treble. Loose mid and low bass
That's compared to Beyerdynamic T1, which also has bright highs but nowhere as Fostex.

 

[flipper2gv]

  If you want to become deaf - than Th900 is a good choice for metal

No midrange, besides upper midrange which is emphasized and spiky + spiky treble. Loose mid and low bass
That's compared to Beyerdynamic T1, which also has bright highs but nowhere as Fostex.

 
I just don't agree with this. TH900 has tons of bass, but not loose. No midrange? That is quite the exaggeration. 

I say try them.

 

[Max Choiral]

   
I just don't agree with this. TH900 has tons of bass, but not loose. No midrange? That is quite the exaggeration. 

I say try them.

That's is not exaggeration but direct comparison using NuPrime DAC-10H. Good points of Th900 are tight and quick upper bass, big soundstage - that's all it has to offer.

 

[flipper2gv]

 
That's is not exaggeration but direct comparison using NuPrime DAC-10H. Good points of Th900 are tight and quick upper bass, big soundstage - that's all it has to offer.

 
Well gee, I guess me and the vast majority of people that agrees with me must be wrong huh?
 
It has measurable super low bass distortion (that usually brings loose bass) and a very linear bass response. Mids are recessed for a TOTL headphone sure, but it most definitely has mids.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf
 
I don't know why everyone with an anime avatar has to be so contrarian. On all the forums I go, it's always the same thing.

 

[Music Alchemist]

  Well gee, I guess me and the vast majority of people that agrees with me must be wrong huh?
 
It has measurable super low bass distortion (that usually brings loose bass) and a very linear bass response. Mids are recessed for a TOTL headphone sure, but it most definitely has mids.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf

 
Those bass measurements are very boosted. Here is what a linear bass response looks like:
 

 
These are measurements for an Audeze LCD-2 with the compensation curves superimposed. The graph is mislabeled, but basically, look at that green line. The bass follows the green line perfectly. Now look at how the green line goes much higher than the bass when you get to higher frequencies. This is all about the balance between the bass and everything else.
 
Here's another example where the headphone is more neutral all-around: the STAX SR-009.
 

 
Again, the upper frequencies are significantly higher than the bass.
 
Now compare the TH-900 measurements to the SR-009 and LCD-2:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSR009SNSZ92251KGSS.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudezeLCD2SN5325928.pdf
 
Put in the proper context, you can see that the TH-900 has measurably boosted bass.
 
You can read a more in-depth analysis of its measurements here.
 

I don't know why everyone with an anime avatar has to be so contrarian. On all the forums I go, it's always the same thing.

 
Anime fans have both boosted intelligence and boosted egos, so there ya go.

 
(I've spent around 1% of my entire life watching anime.)

 

[Hansotek]

 
TH-900 sounds like a nice alternative as I share the office with my girlfriend.

If you want to become deaf - than Th900 is a good choice for metal:bigsmile_face:
No midrange, besides upper midrange which is emphasized and spiky + spiky treble. Loose mid and low bass
That's compared to Beyerdynamic T1, which also has bright highs but nowhere as Fostex.

I can't agree with any of this. Are you sure the "TH900" you tried wasn't actually a D2000, lol?

 

[Max Choiral]

   
Well gee, I guess me and the vast majority of people that agrees with me must be wrong huh?
 
It has measurable super low bass distortion (that usually brings loose bass) and a very linear bass response. Mids are recessed for a TOTL headphone sure, but it most definitely has mids.
 
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf
 
I don't know why everyone with an anime avatar has to be so contrarian. On all the forums I go, it's always the same thing.

Yeah-yeah, "millions of people can't be wrong"
 
[Mod Edit: Not a good image.]
 
what my avatar has to do with the headphones? there are HPs which are sonically better than the others. is this smth extraordinary to you? or you're looking for an excuse for TH900?

 

[flipper2gv]

   
Those bass measurements are very boosted. Here is what a linear bass response looks like:
 

 
These are measurements for an Audeze LCD-2 with the compensation curves superimposed. The graph is mislabeled, but basically, look at that green line. The bass follows the green line perfectly. Now look at how the green line goes much higher than the bass when you get to higher frequencies. This is all about the balance between the bass and everything else.
 
Here's another example where the headphone is more neutral all-around: the STAX SR-009.
 

 
Again, the upper frequencies are significantly higher than the bass.
 
Now compare the TH-900 measurements to the SR-009 and LCD-2:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/StaxSR009SNSZ92251KGSS.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AudezeLCD2SN5325928.pdf
 
Put in the proper context, you can see that the TH-900 has measurably boosted bass.
 
You can read a more in-depth analysis of its measurements here.
 
 

 
Yes I agree with this. Boosted for sure, but not loose. I meant on the bass spectrum, it is pretty linear.

 
Anime fans have both boosted intelligence and boosted egos, so there ya go. 

 
(I've spent around 1% of my entire life watching anime.)
 

 
Boosted intelligence? I'd say I've seen both extremes, extremely intelligent and people with learning disabilities. Stoners and straight edge people. Very charismatic and borderline Asperger.

The only common denominator I've seen from anime fans is that they like anime. I also liked the two I've watched (Death Note and Attack on Titan, got Berserk on my backlog).
 

   
 

never was an anime fan & my ego is below average, can't judge on intelligence

 
You have an anime/manga avatar.

 

[Max Choiral]

   
Yes I agree with this. Boosted for sure, but not loose. I meant on the bass spectrum, it is pretty linear.
 
You have an anime/manga avatar.

Linear and loose are different things.
Talking about bass, let's say you have jelly in one hand(TH900) & bread in another(T1). Which one has the most assembled, harder texture? That's the answer

Oh, is that so? I just like that pic

 
Anyway the potential of TH900 is very high and I believe Fostex could do things much better.

 

[flipper2gv]

  Linear and loose are different things.
Talking about bass, let's say you have jelly in one hand(TH900) & bread in another(T1). Which one has the most assembled, harder texture? That's the answer

Oh, is that so? I just like that pic

 
Anyway the potential of TH900 is very high and I believe Fostex could do things much better.

 
Linear and loose are indeed different things. That's why I say the bass FR is linear but not loose (mostly because it doesn't have distortion).

Your bread and jelly comparison doesn't make sense since the T1 has ton of bass distortion and is loose sounding (for a TOTL headphone) in the lower range. But, this is not very noticeable because they are very bass light.
 
Compare for yourself:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicT1.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf
 
I suspect you might had a bad seal with trying these, which isn't uncommon, and that made them sound loose.
 
FWIW, I don't own these and I don't have plans to buy them.

 

[Max Choiral]

   
Linear and loose are indeed different things. That's why I say the bass FR is linear but not loose (mostly because it doesn't have distortion).

Your bread and jelly comparison doesn't make sense since the T1 has ton of bass distortion and is loose sounding (for a TOTL headphone) in the lower range. But, this is not very noticeable because they are very bass light.
 
Compare for yourself:
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/BeyerdynamicT1.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexTH900.pdf
 
I suspect you might had a bad seal with trying these, which isn't uncommon, and that made them sound loose.
 
FWIW, I don't own these and I don't have plans to buy them.

I don't make conclusions based only on measurements and where is guarantee it was done properly?. By the way, boosted bass != linear - and that also don't make sense for me too, especially with that graph

T1 is not bass light, it has fair amount of bass. For those who love emphasized bass is the opposite of course
Bad seal? Pretty doubtful

 

[xwfalcon]

I demoed th900 2 weeks ago i found to my ears the bass was very good but all so found them a bit bright in the highs and a bit recessed in the mids so the sound was a bit u shaped for my liking .

 

[NZtechfreak]

Max Choiral, this is pretty much the most collegial subcommunity here at Head-Fi, perhaps you could strike a tone more fitting for the thread? I've no opinion on the issue at stake, having not heard the TH900, but I do know that invoking Godwin's Law at the first sign of a dissenting opinion is generally a poor prognostic indicator about the likely quality of a person's contribution to an online community.

 

[flipper2gv]

I demoed th900 2 weeks ago i found to my ears the bass was very good but all so found them a bit bright in the highs and a bit recessed in the mids so the sound was a bit u shaped for my liking .

 
Yes that is my opinion too.
 

  I don't make conclusions based only on measurements and where is guarantee it was done properly?. By the way, boosted bass != linear - and that also don't make sense for me too, especially with that graph

T1 is not bass light, it has fair amount of bass. For those who love emphasized bass is the opposite of course
Bad seal? Pretty doubtful
 

 
From 20 to 100 Hz (bass and sub bass region) it is super flat. It is elevated compared to the rest of the FR curve. Therefore, the bass response is linear across its range AND boosted.