GS Audio Impressions Thread
Jul 9, 2021 at 12:45 AM Post #91 of 1,414
I suspect that SE12 is the generic of BGVP ES12...
The graphs look quite different and there are no switches to adjust the crossover network, so it doesn't seem likely.
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vs.
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The impedance also doesn't match, so it seems they aren't the same.
Now this one...
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that seems more similar and the impedance matches... If it really does graph like that in real life, then it is quite the bargain.
 
Jul 9, 2021 at 2:09 AM Post #92 of 1,414
The graphs look quite different and there are no switches to adjust the crossover network, so it doesn't seem likely.
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vs.
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The impedance also doesn't match, so it seems they aren't the same.
Now this one...
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that seems more similar and the impedance matches... If it really does graph like that in real life, then it is quite the bargain.
SD11 is on the way and should arrive tomorrow or the day after. Was wondering which iem does it compare to?
 
Jul 9, 2021 at 4:10 AM Post #93 of 1,414
SD11 is on the way and should arrive tomorrow or the day after. Was wondering which iem does it compare to?
Somehow I completely managed to miss the fact that the Fearless Audio x Crinacle Dawn was a 6BA+2EST set, so it can't be the direct predecessor to the SE12... ..maybe the SE8? No, the impedance doesn't match and they don't graph anything alike. I wonder if their SE series are legitimately unique to them, at least for now. How curious. I haven't had much luck finding any 1DD+6BA+4EST sets from any manufacturer other than GS Audio, so they might have used the Dawn as inspiration for its graph as well, but they certainly didn't use the driver config for inspiration. Should be interesting either way. Just be prepared for lots and lots of burn in. I also found that sticking one of those nifty metal mesh wax filters on my GD7B tames the weird wiggly nature of the treble response just that tiny bit that it needed to sound great to me. The 5mm one fit the nozzle perfectly.
 
Jul 9, 2021 at 5:54 AM Post #94 of 1,414
Somehow I completely managed to miss the fact that the Fearless Audio x Crinacle Dawn was a 6BA+2EST set, so it can't be the direct predecessor to the SE12... ..maybe the SE8? No, the impedance doesn't match and they don't graph anything alike. I wonder if their SE series are legitimately unique to them, at least for now. How curious. I haven't had much luck finding any 1DD+6BA+4EST sets from any manufacturer other than GS Audio, so they might have used the Dawn as inspiration for its graph as well, but they certainly didn't use the driver config for inspiration. Should be interesting either way. Just be prepared for lots and lots of burn in. I also found that sticking one of those nifty metal mesh wax filters on my GD7B tames the weird wiggly nature of the treble response just that tiny bit that it needed to sound great to me. The 5mm one fit the nozzle perfectly.
What about SD11?
 
Jul 9, 2021 at 2:47 PM Post #95 of 1,414
You guys are well aware of GS Audio coming in as a dark horse with little information/reviews known about them.
I'm leaving my early impression in regards to how this company will perform in respect to price : performance ratio considering the myriad of chifi-offerings.

From my research, they offer the cheapest EST tribrid available in the market, while using a similar spec-sheet as other tribrids to remain competitive in the suggested technical performance. Strictly from a value proposition, I think what the company is offering is excellent as they offer the hardware specs that consumer seek, as well as customization of shells for our artistry creative satisfaction. Now I am very much aware that the implementation of drivers is more important than the driver composition itself to execute a satisfactory and refined sound signature us enthusiasts seek, but if we were to judge a company based on the specs-sheet alone due to the limitations of its "perceived" audio quality as there are no reviews around, it is incredibly difficult to ignore what this company could have in store for us.

Currently, I am most interested in their SE12 flagship as a hybrid of 8 BA and 4 EST. Expensive, but undeniably raises my curiosity considering it uses all the Sonion flagship BA series as opposed to the overwhelming amount of Sonion 2300 series we see being used in mid-range hybrids or tribrids coming out nowadays. Maybe this excites me as I'm a sucker for clear transparent mid-range, although I primarily listen to EDM and pop.

Driver Composition
2 Sonion 38D series (Subbass-bass)
2 Sonion 37 series (bass-mids)
4 Knowles TWFK series (mids-lower treble)
4 Sonion EST65QB02 (4-in-1 EST for Ultra high frequency)

I know posts above briefly discussed about this model, but I'm here to provide a more up-to-date chart so that it's easier to analyze and dissect it's frequency response chart than the premature graph posted in it's main advertising page. It's clearly a V-shaped tuning, but I found it interesting how some similarities can be taken if you compare it the well-regarded TSMR Spark.

There is an equal amount of emphasis in both the bass and treble region, with about a 10db pinna gain from 900hz-3k, similar to blessing 2, and plateaus at the 5k and 7k resonance peak, with a gradual downward slope from there onwards.

I must admit this wouldn't be my "ideal" tuning in of itself, but what strikes GS Audio apart from the rest of its competitors is the option to tune the iem to your preferred liking. I do not know any other company that advertise themselves as OEM/ODM specialist.

I am by no ways affiliated with this company, but am writing this in the hopes that someone would volunteer to be the next guinea pig of this forum lol.

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Jul 9, 2021 at 3:04 PM Post #96 of 1,414
I'd personally be more interested in the ST6A. Their graph looks exciting.

They go with 38 series for sub-bass and bass, 37 series for mid-bass and mids, 23 series for mids to low treble, then they switch to Knowles TWFK for the treble extension. Looks like an interesting arrangement. It looks like at least two of those are single BA units instead of coupled units. My guess is the 37 series and TWFK are single BA units.
The shell looks very much like a Dunu SA6, but without the switch. Driver configuration isn't quite the same as, if I'm not mistaken, SA6 has Knowles mid BAs.
It looks like an interesting option.

Edit: scratch that, at some point, all those resin IEM look kinda similar. Still an interesting alternative to the SA6 (with more pinna gain?).
 
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Jul 9, 2021 at 3:06 PM Post #97 of 1,414
You guys are well aware of GS Audio coming in as a dark horse with little information/reviews known about them.
I'm leaving my early impression in regards to how this company will perform in respect to price : performance ratio considering the myriad of chifi-offerings.

From my research, they offer the cheapest EST tribrid available in the market, while using a similar spec-sheet as other tribrids to remain competitive in the suggested technical performance. Strictly from a value proposition, I think what the company is offering is excellent as they offer the hardware specs that consumer seek, as well as customization of shells for our artistry creative satisfaction. Now I am very much aware that the implementation of drivers is more important than the driver composition itself to execute a satisfactory and refined sound signature us enthusiasts seek, but if we were to judge a company based on the specs-sheet alone due to the limitations of its "perceived" audio quality as there are no reviews around, it is incredibly difficult to ignore what this company could have in store for us.

Currently, I am most interested in their SE12 flagship as a hybrid of 8 BA and 4 EST. Expensive, but undeniably raises my curiosity considering it uses all the Sonion flagship BA series as opposed to the overwhelming amount of Sonion 2300 series we see being used in mid-range hybrids or tribrids coming out nowadays. Maybe this excites me as I'm a sucker for clear transparent mid-range, although I primarily listen to EDM and pop.

Driver Composition
2 Sonion 38D series (Subbass-bass)
2 Sonion 37 series (bass-mids)
4 Knowles TWFK series (mids-lower treble)
4 Sonion EST65QB02 (4-in-1 EST for Ultra high frequency)

I know posts above briefly discussed about this model, but I'm here to provide a more up-to-date chart so that it's easier to analyze and dissect it's frequency response chart than the premature graph posted in it's main advertising page. It's clearly a V-shaped tuning, but I found it interesting how some similarities can be taken if you compare it the well-regarded TSMR Spark.

There is an equal amount of emphasis in both the bass and treble region, with about a 10db pinna gain from 900hz-3k, similar to blessing 2, and plateaus at the 5k and 7k resonance peak, with a gradual downward slope from there onwards.

I must admit this wouldn't be my "ideal" tuning in of itself, but what strikes GS Audio apart from the rest of its competitors is the option to tune the iem to your preferred liking. I do not know any other company that advertise themselves as OEM/ODM specialist.

I am by no ways affiliated with this company, but am writing this in the hopes that someone would volunteer to be the next guinea pig of this forum lol.


SE12 looks very, very interesting, on paper at least. Still a lot of $$$$ at ~1200 CAD.

Edit: @SteveK27 , where is that SE12 graph from?
 
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Jul 9, 2021 at 4:13 PM Post #98 of 1,414
SE12, SE11, and also SE8 looks very interesting!
 
Jul 9, 2021 at 4:17 PM Post #99 of 1,414
SE12 looks very, very interesting, on paper at least. Still a lot of $$$$ at ~1200 CAD.

Edit: @SteveK27 , where is that SE12 graph from?
I got it from the seller himself.
Apparently their cloud service was dead and was taking some time to reboot it, so they re-measured the SE12 and sent me the graph :)

Their customer service is amazing btw.
Undoubtedly one of the most responsive seller I've encountered, and I've dealt with quite a lot from aliexpress, headphones.com, apos, shenzhenaudio, etc.
 
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Jul 9, 2021 at 4:20 PM Post #100 of 1,414
I got it from the seller himself.
Apparently their cloud service was dead and was taking some time to reboot it, so they re-measured the SE12 and sent me the graph :)

Their customer service is amazing btw.
Undoubtedly one of the most responsive seller I've encountered, and I've dealt with quite a lot from aliexpress, headphones.com, apos, shenzhenaudio, etc.
Thanks! It's far more convincing than the ones they use in their product pages.
 
Jul 9, 2021 at 4:28 PM Post #101 of 1,414
Just got info from someone in my discord server regarding customization.

1. They can change the 2pin connectors to MMCX if you want with, NO CHARGE.

2. If you dont like the faceplate, you can change it to another faceplate that they got on another iem, NO CHARGE.

3. If you want a metallic nozzle, they take an additional 10 usd.
 
Jul 9, 2021 at 6:16 PM Post #102 of 1,414
SE12 faceplate is amazing😍
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Jul 9, 2021 at 7:20 PM Post #103 of 1,414
Jul 10, 2021 at 11:18 AM Post #104 of 1,414
Got a brief comparison between the SE11 vs 12 according to the manufacturer.

SE11 seek a natural and grand sound profile by bringing in different characteristics of the driver types. It has a greater soundstage width with good "elasticity".

SE12 has the better overall imaging capabilities, including soundstage reproduction in height, depth, and layering. You can think of all the subsets that denotes to imaging, and SE12 triumphs over the SE11.
It also has more focus on micro-detailing (which makes me recall my time with the andromedas and their great detail retrieval).

In regards to bass performance, SE12 bass is not necessarily "inferior" to the SE11, but offers a different timbre and characteristic.
However, SE11 dynamic bass do have better natural decay strictly due to the nature of dynamic drivers.
 
Jul 11, 2021 at 4:29 AM Post #105 of 1,414
Still most of my orders are landing in Netherlands first before coming to Poland. My record receiving the package was in 9 days. Usually, it's around two weeks to come.

Valuable packages always come earlier than the rest and some never reach out to me. I was already getting tired with AEdue to their awful customer service and now they implemented this new VAT rule for Poland so that means much less shopping for me.

I'm still considering gd7b though as it's above 150€ and there's no VAT at the check out...
The GD7B are certainly an interesting set, though I will readily admit that their tuning may not be to everyone's preferences. It does sound like they may offer some custom tuning options, so it may be worthwhile to get on a chat with one of their reps if you have a particular graph you like the sound of. I can definitely confirm that the drivers they're using are great. Very natural timbre, good agility where it matters, and the DD does really dig deep when it needs to. The mids can just get a bit... ...much if the mix of the track isn't great.
 

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