Dec 17, 2021 at 10:44 AM Post #40,276 of 70,104
I suspect there might be more at play re: Grell battery life. I don't have my set anymore, but during my first usage session I noticed very fast battery drain that I couldn't reproduce the next day. Possibly the battery controller learning or a quirk of the QCC5141 implementation.
 
Dec 17, 2021 at 11:03 AM Post #40,278 of 70,104
I suspect there might be more at play re: Grell battery life. I don't have my set anymore, but during my first usage session I noticed very fast battery drain that I couldn't reproduce the next day. Possibly the battery controller learning or a quirk of the QCC5141 implementation.

Sounds like a typical syndrome of a brand new company, 1st gen product.
Hopefully it can be fixed with a firmware update but since they don't have a proprietary app I'm not sure how's that going to be implemented.
 
Dec 17, 2021 at 11:23 AM Post #40,279 of 70,104
Sounds like a typical syndrome of a brand new company, 1st gen product.
Hopefully it can be fixed with a firmware update but since they don't have a proprietary app I'm not sure how's that going to be implemented.
All the above said, I'm using mine now and not having any issues. I actually like them and the mic for calls is very very good. Better than my M&D MW08 Sports which seem to have gone south after the firmware update - they're unusable on calls now. The Grell fit fantastic, they're incredibly lightweight. I'd say the soundstage is wide and smooth. The bass definitely has decent punch. I ran the SoundID tests and have a good mix going that uploaded to the buds no problem. Touch controls can be annoying, i.e. testy on the left bud but I think I just have to learn where to exactly tap. The ANC is okay. About comparable to the MW08 Sport, maybe a tad bit better. It's def not awful. I put on a pair of Symbio foam tips and that helps with the seal and passive isolation which in turn helped the ANC. I'll use them most of today and try to see how long I get. I'm not close to a point where I'm annoyed and want to return them. That said, it could blow up for me like a few others. Fingers crossed that doesn't happen.
 
Dec 17, 2021 at 11:41 AM Post #40,280 of 70,104
All the above said, I'm using mine now and not having any issues. I actually like them and the mic for calls is very very good. Better than my M&D MW08 Sports which seem to have gone south after the firmware update - they're unusable on calls now. The Grell fit fantastic, they're incredibly lightweight. I'd say the soundstage is wide and smooth. The bass definitely has decent punch. I ran the SoundID tests and have a good mix going that uploaded to the buds no problem. Touch controls can be annoying, i.e. testy on the left bud but I think I just have to learn where to exactly tap. The ANC is okay. About comparable to the MW08 Sport, maybe a tad bit better. It's def not awful. I put on a pair of Symbio foam tips and that helps with the seal and passive isolation which in turn helped the ANC. I'll use them most of today and try to see how long I get. I'm not close to a point where I'm annoyed and want to return them. That said, it could blow up for me like a few others. Fingers crossed that doesn't happen.
I keep having to double tap the left side to "wake" it up which can get annoying. The right side has rarely given me issues. My use case for them really hasn't been phone calls, but they sound very good. The bass has some beautiful fluidity to it. I have no comfort issues either, the housings conform to my ears pretty well. I haven't used the SoundID stuff, I've never really been a fan of how it works (for example I prefer to EQ my headphones live while my music is playing).
 
Dec 17, 2021 at 11:51 AM Post #40,281 of 70,104
I keep having to double tap the left side to "wake" it up which can get annoying. The right side has rarely given me issues. My use case for them really hasn't been phone calls, but they sound very good. The bass has some beautiful fluidity to it. I have no comfort issues either, the housings conform to my ears pretty well. I haven't used the SoundID stuff, I've never really been a fan of how it works (for example I prefer to EQ my headphones live while my music is playing).
Yeah, I'm not usually one to use the SoundID tech but surprisingly liking what it did. Same here with the right bud a few times. Also, seems certain tips are too big and the case won't close or the buds won't seat well. Few after market tips actually fit in the case better than some of the stock tips!
 
Dec 17, 2021 at 11:56 AM Post #40,282 of 70,104
For those interested, Amazon US has the Fiio UTWS5 in stock for 12/24 delivery. Going to take a shot with the 2 Pin version since I already have the Shure TW2.

 
Dec 17, 2021 at 12:09 PM Post #40,284 of 70,104
Dec 17, 2021 at 12:16 PM Post #40,286 of 70,104
It's going in and out of stock for me. I got an order in. I'm an absolute glutton for pain, apparently. I hope the pairing process and stability have been improved vs. the UTWS3. Still not happy you have to use the case for pairing mode, but whatever. I miss using my SE846s.
 
Dec 17, 2021 at 12:17 PM Post #40,287 of 70,104
Do you not see the same as I get (going by your comment on 12/24 delivery)?

"Currently unavailable.
We don't know when or if this item will be back in stock."
Because you're in the UK, maybe it is IP sniffing your location. I don't know. See screenshot.
 

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Dec 17, 2021 at 12:20 PM Post #40,288 of 70,104
I believed you and tried NordVPN but above user is seeing same not a biggie and doubt I want these due to battery life and a few other aspects like the Codecs so far if the others no added later as they said they may do.
 
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Dec 17, 2021 at 12:21 PM Post #40,289 of 70,104
I believed you and tried NordVPN but above user is seeing same not a biggie and doubt I want these due to battery life and a few other aspects like the Codecs so far if the others no added alter as they said they may do.
Still showing both versions in stock on my end. Bummer.
 
Dec 17, 2021 at 12:24 PM Post #40,290 of 70,104
It's going in and out of stock for me. I got an order in. I'm an absolute glutton for pain, apparently. I hope the pairing process and stability have been improved vs. the UTWS3. Still not happy you have to use the case for pairing mode, but whatever. I miss using my SE846s.
I can't find info that they have transparency mode, but would be great if they did.
 

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