Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[TheLionelHutz]

has anyone tried this app?
https://www.xda-developers.com/make-your-headphones-sound-better-automatic-eq-wavelet/amp/

it has an AutoEQ feature to make the curve closer to harman target curve, and supports quite a bunch of selections in its library, even some cheap chifis and TWSs.

i only installed it last night, so i only have tested it with my Gbuds and WHXM3 headphone.
from those two, i really like the sound. it makes both of them really airy and less bloated. thr GBuds is airy just as it is, but this app still manages to make the mids clearer.

next I'm gonna test it with my wired ones that's listed there

Holy smokes, that's awesome! Better sound results than the native EQ in my Galaxy S20. And it works with lower Q services like Amazon (their app's EQ is a gawdawful embarrassment) and SiriusXM (which I often can't stand to listen to from the compression). Thanks!

 

[Ocelitgol]

If this is capable of saving (and loading) EQ Presets per Headphone, colour me interested. Even better if it can autoload the presets on its own.

With per-unit presets than it would indeed be the perfect add-in for TWS sets lacking native EQ (the Edifier NB and Nuarls come to mind).

agree 100 percent. it already have automatic switching for the autoEQ when connected to different TWS, if they implement multiple custom EQ settings, i would gladly pay the full price. i guess we could try suggesting it to the developer

I can confirm it auto switch profile for me on Samsung Note 9 with Gbuds+ and Sony WF-1000XM3 and Sony WH-1000XM3 and my car audio. I'm not sure if it does the same thing to wired because BT devices have names. Free version auto switch and I don't see i'll need the additional features beside the AutoEQ and manual EQ; I will, however, pay to support the development.

 

[RemoGaggi]

Really looking forward about your KZ Z1 impressions, especially vs GT1 plus and T1x mate

I just received the GT1 Plus today from Ebay (took exactly 16 days from China to California). I'm still waiting for the KZ Z1 to get here and then I can compare 1TX vs. GT1 Plus vs. KZ Z1. My initial impression of the GT1 Plus wasn't that great. They didn't want to pair with each other, but that was resolved with resetting them. They also felt very cheap and light in my hands. Also, they are annoying because the touch button is SO sensitive. But, my initial sound impressions after changing the ear tips to large and just listening to them for 5 minutes paired with my laptop are that the GT1 Plus are AWESOME. So clean, natural and balanced sound. That's my first 5 minute impression. I will have time to compare with my T1x later (and Tranya B530). I hope the KZ's arrive soon (supposedly they are in New York somewhere, just not in California yet). Stay tuned.

 

[Ocelitgol]

I can confirm it auto switch profile for me on Samsung Note 9 with Gbuds+ and Sony WF-1000XM3 and Sony WH-1000XM3 and my car audio. I'm not sure if it does the same thing to wired because BT devices have names. Free version auto switch and I don't see i'll need the additional features beside the AutoEQ and manual EQ; I will, however, pay to support the development.

I'm gonna contradict what I've said before about AutoEQ. It does remove the shoutiness of Buds+, though I hope the bass would remain untouched, but this AutoEQ profile is easier to listen to. Very nice

 

[voicemaster]

has anyone tried this app?
https://www.xda-developers.com/make-your-headphones-sound-better-automatic-eq-wavelet/amp/

it has an AutoEQ feature to make the curve closer to harman target curve, and supports quite a bunch of selections in its library, even some cheap chifis and TWSs.

i only installed it last night, so i only have tested it with my Gbuds and WHXM3 headphone.
from those two, i really like the sound. it makes both of them really airy and less bloated. thr GBuds is airy just as it is, but this app still manages to make the mids clearer.

next I'm gonna test it with my wired ones that's listed there

Wow, just tried it with both Gbud and Gbud+. Vast improvement on the Gbud, the difference can be heard easily than the Gbuds+. The sound is fuller, bass has better impact and body, mid is more forward and a little bit thicker, treble is smoother. The most noticeable improvement is the bass and mid imho.
They have graphic EQ, but only 9 band which is quite good, but the AutoEQ I believe they use a more detailed like 32 band EQ to tune the sound. If you have Gbud, this EQ software is a must have imho.

 

[maxemillian]

I bought my here https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000482792147.html?af=240682&utm_campaign=240682&aff_platform=aaf&utm_medium=cpa&afref=https://www.head-fi.org/threads/going-fully-wireless-iems-too-soon-or-are-we-there-yet.861024/page-1439&dp=164acc07f39133b3d888e980f7d7f52a&spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.61924c4dNHwoMB&cv=47843&mall_affr=pr3&sk=VnYZvQVf&aff_trace_key=b508fe7b00074a26b16fbb239264ef1a-1589980715516-07878-VnYZvQVf&terminal_id=292956af5a8a48dfbc574e6b669e258e&tmLog=new_Detail&utm_source=admitad&utm_content=47843&aff_request_id=b508fe7b00074a26b16fbb239264ef1a-1589980715516-07878-VnYZvQVf

Okay I'll try these, thanks!

 

[maxemillian]

The misodiko copy works good for GT1 plus just the bass become mid bass focus, so im using default eartips but with foam from symbio W inside the eartips

Sounds interesting; will try.

 

[DynamicEars]

I just received the GT1 Plus today from Ebay (took exactly 16 days from China to California). I'm still waiting for the KZ Z1 to get here and then I can compare 1TX vs. GT1 Plus vs. KZ Z1. My initial impression of the GT1 Plus wasn't that great. They didn't want to pair with each other, but that was resolved with resetting them. They also felt very cheap and light in my hands. Also, they are annoying because the touch button is SO sensitive. But, my initial sound impressions after changing the ear tips to large and just listening to them for 5 minutes paired with my laptop are that the GT1 Plus are AWESOME. So clean, natural and balanced sound. That's my first 5 minute impression. I will have time to compare with my T1x later (and Tranya B530). I hope the KZ's arrive soon (supposedly they are in New York somewhere, just not in California yet). Stay tuned.

Yeah i like the balanced sound of them, clean natural yet detailed, with airy and good soundstage. Just the volume is too low for my liking and bass impact that because of driver limitation lile other TWS.

Sound quality aside, the build quality is average good, nothing special.

Value wise, they are crazy.

Oops Ive ordered Z1 too, but still eagerly waiting for your impressions of course.
Thanks

 

[tma6]

I ended up grabbing the SP800N last night at Target. So far, so good. It's actually what I hoped the XM3 would be. Stable fit, touch controls are a bit more responsive, mids are more present, better clarity in the highs, water resistance (IP55), and of course XTRA BASS (you can EQ it down)! I sold my XM3 and can't A/B, but ANC seems just as good. The case is basic but well made, although without the premium accents and feel of the XM3.

Overall, IMHO, this is an upgrade to the XM3. The sound is big, bold, and imaging is very good. Testing over AAC and iPhone.

Pending mic test.

very interesting, hows that mic? better than xm3?

 

[Ocelitgol]

Wow, just tried it with both Gbud and Gbud+. Vast improvement on the Gbud, the difference can be heard easily than the Gbuds+. The sound is fuller, bass has better impact and body, mid is more forward and a little bit thicker, treble is smoother. The most noticeable improvement is the bass and mid imho.
They have graphic EQ, but only 9 band which is quite good, but the AutoEQ I believe they use a more detailed like 32 band EQ to tune the sound. If you have Gbud, this EQ software is a must have imho.

Agreed. It sounds great on Gbuds+, less shouty. But, it's not as good on Sony WH-1000XM3 as it makes it a lot more forward and lose the warmth too much

 

[chinmie]

Agreed. It sounds great on Gbuds+, less shouty. But, it's not as good on Sony WH-1000XM3 as it makes it a lot more forward and lose the warmth too much

with the Gbud and Gbud+ the change is smaller because they're already tuned close to the harman target, so that autoEq just add a bit of corrections.

with the WHXM3 and the WFXM3 however, the changes are bigger because the bassier and warmer original Sony tuning.

all of them sound similar after autoEQ, with their driver capabilities as the differing factor to their sound. i myself prefer the WHXM3 and WFXM3 sound with that autoEQ even more than the Gbuds, because they seem to have a more technically capable drivers than the Gbuds.

for example, i also like the Blon BL03 driver with the AutoEQ, but i don't like the **** with this as it seems to expose it's less than stellar piezo driver capability.

with the BL03 original sound i couldn't use it for long because the midbass is too much. now i might pair this to my BT20S for daily use.

i just remembered i gave my QCY T5 to my son, i'll borrow and test it later with this app to see how it goes

 

[chinmie]

Transparency/hear-thru is OK out of the box, but it's not highly amplified and noise is a little dampened vs. natural hearing. After checking the "Focus on Voice" box in the App, it improves the ambient function overall to be close to natural.

If you EQ down the "Clear Bass" within the App, it still sounds good. Anything below -3 on the bass slider sounds a little thin for my tastes, but the bass quality and texture is still retained when lowering it.

your setting with the SP800N seems similar to what my setting for the WFXM3. for ambient mode i use higher sound input to about 18, which to my ears seems about the same as the real ambient sound level if i remove the WFXM3 from my ears. after that i use the "focus on voice" to filter the trebly white noise.
the EQ i also stops the clear bass at -3. i leave everything else unEQed though, as i like it "as is" already

 

[DigDub]

I ended up grabbing the SP800N last night at Target. So far, so good. It's actually what I hoped the XM3 would be. Stable fit, touch controls are a bit more responsive, mids are more present, better clarity in the highs, water resistance (IP55), and of course XTRA BASS (you can EQ it down)! I sold my XM3 and can't A/B, but ANC seems just as good. The case is basic but well made, although without the premium accents and feel of the XM3.

Overall, IMHO, this is an upgrade to the XM3. The sound is big, bold, and imaging is very good. Testing over AAC and iPhone.

Pending mic test.

Can you try to turn off the ANC, put the buds inside the case, then take them out. Is the ANC turned back on, or does it remember the last state when it was put in the case (turned off)? Thanks.

 

[HeadphoneAddict]

Transparency/hear-thru is OK out of the box, but it's not highly amplified and noise is a little dampened vs. natural hearing. After checking the "Focus on Voice" box in the App, it improves the ambient function overall to be close to natural.

If you EQ down the "Clear Bass" within the App, it still sounds good. Anything below -3 on the bass slider sounds a little thin for my tastes, but the bass quality and texture is still retained when lowering it.

So, the bass is not as over-done or boomy out of the box as the Jabra 75t for which I need to use the "speech" or "treble boost" EQ with the Jabra 75t App. I don't need to do any EQ with the Sony WF-SP800N yet. However, I am still trying to pick the best tips for me, which are either the Med Large ones that were pre-installed out of the box or the Largest size (it seems like they have 4 sizes, Small, Med Small, Med Large, and Large). Once I figure out the fit I can focus on the sound. I'm still going back and forth to decide which is best and wont fall out without the hooks, but I think that would be the large.

The ear hooks make it harder to get them deep enough into my ears for a seal regardless of tip size, and I took them off. But then I was not sure which one goes on the right or left if I were to put them back on. I get better isolation with the large tips and no hooks, and better ambient leakage without hurting the sound if I use the hooks with a shallower insertion.

So far the sound is pretty good, either way, and with the loose fit when using the hooks I can hear stuff around me better than with ambient on - but then ANC doesn't help. So, I have to use them without hooks to appreciate all the ambient/ANC modes.

The Sony App is buggier and often disconnects with the WF-SP800N and re-connects. Also, the changes between ambient and ANC is more subtle than with the Air Pods Pro.

 

[TYATYA]

has anyone tried this app?
https://www.xda-developers.com/make-your-headphones-sound-better-automatic-eq-wavelet/amp/

it has an AutoEQ feature to make the curve closer to harman target curve, and supports quite a bunch of selections in its library, even some cheap chifis and TWSs.

i only installed it last night, so i only have tested it with my Gbuds and WHXM3 headphone.
from those two, i really like the sound. it makes both of them really airy and less bloated. thr GBuds is airy just as it is, but this app still manages to make the mids clearer.

next I'm gonna test it with my wired ones that's listed there

Auto eq for shure 1200, 1500 both useless!

But, preset eq named "Vocal" is quite suit. Base on it I modify to be eq for my shures, which result is xxxcellenttttt!
I own sp1000 dap and kse1200 by years but never happy with the sound as same as now, even tons of eartip, app, parametric eq...
I tried.
Seeking for .apk (that app now in xapk form so I can not install on the dap but using my phone as digital transport)