Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
Jul 5, 2019 at 7:56 PM Post #8,236 of 62,417
I like the 359's, not love. They are the least comfortable TWS I own and after owning two pair where the rubber button has come off, i'm not about to waste my money on a third. I've never been one to hear the wide soundstage everyone talks about. my T1 Pros have a MUCH wider sound stage and even my Tiso I4's soundstage is as wide if not wider. I do love the battery life, volume control, bass and loudness, but I hardly listen to music, so it's not really that important to me. we'll see how the D42's are. If i was smart, i'd probably grab the TRN BT20s and hook my Ibasso It01's up to them.
Surprising! Curious how the Anbes 359 sounds.

Does the Tiso I4 have vol control? I may bite if yes. 6hr battery is within my battery range and 20 bucks.
It doesn't have volume control, but it's a good choice overall.

Here ya go:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33025259900.html?spm=2114.search0604.3.3.675b106coqQCWn&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_6_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_10546_317_10548_10545_10696_10084_453_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_52,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=6cbce24d-b65a-4771-a14a-4c066ba841df-0&algo_pvid=6cbce24d-b65a-4771-a14a-4c066ba841df&transAbTest=ae803_5
  • Style: Ear Hook
  • Communication: Wireless
  • Connectors: USB
  • Wireless Type: Bluetooth
  • Vocalism Principle: Dynamic
  • Control Button: No
  • Volume Control: No
  • Active Noise-Cancellation: No
  • Function: Monitor Headphone,for Video Game,Common Headphone,For Mobile Phone,For iPod,HiFi Headphone,Sport
  • Plug Type: Line Type
  • Sensitivity: 122±3dB
  • Frequency Response Range: 20-40000Hz
  • Line Length: None
  • Resistance: 32Ω
  • Waterproof: No
  • Model Number: V10
  • Support Memory Card: No
  • Support APP: No
  • Is wireless: Yes
  • With Microphone: Yes
  • Codecs: Apt-X
  • Brand Name: Femperna

These have the same function and cheaper with aptx and same brand:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/330...4.0&pvid=845b853c-0d0b-4175-b3fd-3e6fabe8ff87

Cheap Anbes for 10 bucks with vol. control. Who is gonna give them a go?
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33032366013.html?spm=2114.search0604.3.101.560b28599s8tEq&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_6_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_10546_317_10548_10545_10696_10084_453_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_52,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=e6c91591-f3b4-4ff0-a405-7e153f0b6f00-13&algo_pvid=e6c91591-f3b4-4ff0-a405-7e153f0b6f00&transAbTest=ae803_5
Remind me on KZ wired. Perhaps with the TRN BT20s:
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32887259004.html?spm=2114.search0604.3.285.560b28599s8tEq&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_6_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_10546_317_10548_10545_10696_10084_453_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_52,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=e6c91591-f3b4-4ff0-a405-7e153f0b6f00-37&algo_pvid=e6c91591-f3b4-4ff0-a405-7e153f0b6f00&transAbTest=ae803_5
Anbes Transmitter/reciever:
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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32961668058.html?spm=2114.search0604.3.212.2e276812SsHy4e&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_6_10065_10130_10068_10547_319_10546_317_10548_10545_10696_10084_453_454_10083_10618_10307_537_536_10059_10884_10887_321_322_10103,searchweb201603_52,ppcSwitch_0&algo_expid=a6ba05f4-eab1-4560-9cbb-254ceb43304e-31&algo_pvid=a6ba05f4-eab1-4560-9cbb-254ceb43304e&transAbTest=ae803_5
Ordered! Will let you know!

If the MTW fixes so many bugs in all of their various updates, imagine how many bugs are in all these other cheapy ChiFi TW that never get fixed because there's no firmware updates.

I guess that's one of the tradeoffs with $20-$40 ChiFi TW earphones - you're stuck with whatever you get (which sometimes is good, and sometimes is bad).
Most of the time so far, items don't need fixing... :wink:
 
Jul 5, 2019 at 8:13 PM Post #8,237 of 62,417
Not far off at all.
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AT going to beat them by one day...
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AT is 15 hours per charge. BT5.0 with aptx as well(Qualcomm® aptXTM audio, AAC, SBC)
_0003_ATH-CKS5TW_02.jpg

Newly designed completely wireless earpiece
In pursuit of excellent isolation and stable fit, we designed a dedicated earpiece for complete wireless. A thin, flexible silicone earpiece provides an exceptional fit. Moreover, the sound omission is improved by radiation shape design, and high-quality sound is delivered to the ear surely.
_0002_ATH-CKS5TW_04.jpg
 
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Jul 5, 2019 at 8:15 PM Post #8,238 of 62,417
If the MTW fixes so many bugs in all of their various updates, imagine how many bugs are in all these other cheapy ChiFi TW that never get fixed because there's no firmware updates.

I guess that's one of the tradeoffs with $20-$40 ChiFi TW earphones - you're stuck with whatever you get (which sometimes is good, and sometimes is bad).
Not sure if it's placebo effect, but the MTW sound a little cleaner and overall "better" with no EQ.
 
Jul 5, 2019 at 8:27 PM Post #8,239 of 62,417
regarding the new Sony, I find the 24bit processing an oxymoron if no codec like LDAC or Aptx HD is available which can handle that, not to mention heavy compression of all the other codecs that might be present. Yes it can still "sound good", but why bother mentioning 24 bit, if they create a bottleneck somewhere else. Still I'm interested especially after they drop the price....
 
Jul 5, 2019 at 8:31 PM Post #8,240 of 62,417
Surprising! Curious how the Anbes 359 sounds.


It doesn't have volume control, but it's a good choice overall.




Ordered! Will let you know!


Most of the time so far, items don't need fixing... :wink:
Heck yeah. looking forward to your observations on the $10 Anbes. It would be funny if you prefer them to the 359.
 
Jul 5, 2019 at 8:31 PM Post #8,241 of 62,417
So I've been using the NUARL NT01AX IEMs for about a week now. Battery life isn't an issue. Quality still sounds good.

But these have some serious connectivity issues for me. I don't know it is just the environment I'm in (think train station and such in Tokyo, very crowded) but they drop a LOT between each ear. It's not the Bluetooth connection to the phone either since the master ear piece never drops. It's the connection between each ear piece that is having serious problems. It's struggling a little bit while I'm just sitting in bed listening to music.

Kinda disappointed and will try contacting their customer support before trying to return them to Yodobashi Camera (if they'll even let me).
 
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Jul 5, 2019 at 8:35 PM Post #8,242 of 62,417
AT going to beat them by one day...
ath_cks5tw_3.jpg

AT is 15 hours per charge. BT5.0 with aptx as well(Qualcomm® aptXTM audio, AAC, SBC)
_0003_ATH-CKS5TW_02.jpg

Newly designed completely wireless earpiece
In pursuit of excellent isolation and stable fit, we designed a dedicated earpiece for complete wireless. A thin, flexible silicone earpiece provides an exceptional fit. Moreover, the sound omission is improved by radiation shape design, and high-quality sound is delivered to the ear surely.
_0002_ATH-CKS5TW_04.jpg
Now those ATH I'd be interested in beside the MEE. Too bad the price will be high as F. Maybe $250 I'm guessing.
 
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Jul 5, 2019 at 8:44 PM Post #8,243 of 62,417
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Jul 5, 2019 at 8:58 PM Post #8,244 of 62,417
So I've been using the NUARL NT01AX IEMs for about a week now. Battery life isn't an issue. Quality still sounds good.

But these have some serious connectivity issues for me. I don't know it is just the environment I'm in (think train station and such in Tokyo, very crowded) but they drop a LOT between each ear. It's not the Bluetooth connection to the phone either since the master ear piece never drops. It's the connection between each ear piece that is having serious problems. It's struggling a little bit while I'm just sitting in bed listening to music.

Kinda disappointed and will try contacting their customer support before trying to return them to Yodobashi Camera (if they'll even let me).

I had the same issues in downtown Osaka. Ultimately I started wearing my source in my shirt pocket instead of my pants pockets and haven't had an issue since.

Bluetooth range in hot spots is very short, probably just 60cm, but I have similar issues with the radsone es100 when going to crowded places.

My source these days is usually a Shanling m0 with a clipcase, so my source is usually clipped to my collar when commuting. I have zero issues with cut outs since using it like this.
 
Jul 5, 2019 at 9:27 PM Post #8,245 of 62,417
I like the 359's, not love. They are the least comfortable TWS I own and after owning two pair where the rubber button has come off, i'm not about to waste my money on a third. I've never been one to hear the wide soundstage everyone talks about. my T1 Pros have a MUCH wider sound stage and even my Tiso I4's soundstage is as wide if not wider. I do love the battery life, volume control, bass and loudness, but I hardly listen to music, so it's not really that important to me. we'll see how the D42's are. If i was smart, i'd probably grab the TRN BT20s and hook my Ibasso It01's up to them.

That's interesting because I find the 359's really comfortable, second only to the mifo O5's, but those don't have as deep of a fitment
 
Jul 5, 2019 at 9:28 PM Post #8,246 of 62,417
Jul 5, 2019 at 9:31 PM Post #8,247 of 62,417
Newly designed completely wireless earpiece
In pursuit of excellent isolation and stable fit, we designed a dedicated earpiece for complete wireless. A thin, flexible silicone earpiece provides an exceptional fit. Moreover, the sound omission is improved by radiation shape design, and high-quality sound is delivered to the ear surely.
_0002_ATH-CKS5TW_04.jpg

This seems really interesting, because I find it's rare that IEM's have really good quality eartips included (mifo O5 excluded - those are amazing)
 
Jul 5, 2019 at 9:34 PM Post #8,248 of 62,417
I had the same issues in downtown Osaka. Ultimately I started wearing my source in my shirt pocket instead of my pants pockets and haven't had an issue since.

Bluetooth range in hot spots is very short, probably just 60cm, but I have similar issues with the radsone es100 when going to crowded places.

My source these days is usually a Shanling m0 with a clipcase, so my source is usually clipped to my collar when commuting. I have zero issues with cut outs since using it like this.
I only every actually had connectivity issues to the source device when in Akihabara. The issue seems to be with the TrueWireless Stereo system thing. The master earbud never drops connection with the device but it frequently drops connection with the slave earbud on the other side of my head. I'm not sure if that is still dependent on the source device in some way though, since my understanding is that the earbuds have a connection to themselves in addition to the source device.

I think TrueWireless Stereo Plus may alleviate things a little but I don't think my cellphone supports it despite being a Snapdragon 845. :frowning2:
 
Jul 5, 2019 at 9:55 PM Post #8,249 of 62,417
Jul 5, 2019 at 10:05 PM Post #8,250 of 62,417
I love my IT0 as well. And at first I was hesitant to try them with the BT20, thinking it would somehow be sacrilegious. But I was wrong; they not only fit perfectly without having to reshape the BT20 ear guides (for my ear anatomy), the IT01 sounded just as good with the BT20 as wired. I was astonished.

The BT20 also pair well with the KB Ear F1, which I've been using them with recently because I'm working on a review for the F1. But as soon as I'm done with the review, the IT01 will go back on.

My it01s with cb12s (same brand it01s) on it, which improves sq quite much compare to stock, bass tighter, clean mid and more transparent...
But B.O E8 2.0 now is my fav for out going.
Really impressive wide spacious and rich sound. Treble on E8 extend higher then it01s, cripsy but not any hash.
Bass of it01s still be tighter and more detail abit than E8, thanks to the wire, while E8 runs on aac blutooth (if aptx supported, may be help E8 )
But mid on it01s sound somehow alittle unreal on woman singer voice. ( the voice with addition of "ae" or something on each word. EN is not my language so cant find word).
Maybe V shape fr made it to happen.
On E8 is a more realistic voice. But a bit laidback while I want it to more forward.
 

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