Thanks for the comparison!
Damn i'm even more tempted to get a pair of the Sabbats now. Tho I'd prob go for the newer E12 that uses ear tips.
Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
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Damn i'm even more tempted to get a pair of the Sabbats now. Tho I'd prob go for the newer E12 that uses ear tips.
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I assume the reason is that both buds can be either master or slave, but it sure is a long time
I've not owned either, but from what I've seen the the Jabra 65T or the Sony TWEs are prob the cheapest with the ambient sound feature
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I did not notice any random disconnects, but I no longer use them. I ended up giving them to my tweener and he hasn't said anything and all seems to be well. Seems odd they actually have to reconnect thru settings. I would unpair, restart the phones, then re-pair (if you've not already done so). I actually had a different issue with the EQ feature, where it would be louder on one side when I switched to anything other than the default setting. Not sure if you're having that issue, but you may want to exchange.
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Wondering if it's a LG thing since WesennTony and I both have V30 and I've noticed the exact defaults as you've described.
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i have tried to message lg before but no answer
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Okay - after about 90 minutes of dealing with connecting these M2 and getting them updated (serious PIA), I have them up and running. Impressions:
1. SQ - very very good. Better than 65t. Close call with the RHA True Connect. A little warmer and more bass. Not there with MW07. Would be a closer call with the MTW. Sound is what I would call balanced, warmish and a bass boost. Impressed.
2. Build quality and fit. Wow, these really impress here. They are so small! Nice piece of engineering given everyone else is making huge earbuds that stick out all over the place. I imagine getting this SQ into this small package was a tough feat. They are very light and the stock ear tips have a nice grippy texture to them. So even without any stabilizers, these will probably stay put during a workout.
I think these are in a dead heat with RHA True connect. At $250, these are overpriced and I would go with the MW07 every time. At $175, these are a pretty nice option particularly if the form factor is attractive to you. The RHA has newer tech and better battery life and different but IMHO equal sound. But, no updates from RHA.
Note: I don't typically use touch controls so I don't care about them. I also haven't taken these outside to test connectivity.
Edit: Some have reported issues with RHA True Connect. My first pair were DOA. Second pair have been flawless.
1. SQ - very very good. Better than 65t. Close call with the RHA True Connect. A little warmer and more bass. Not there with MW07. Would be a closer call with the MTW. Sound is what I would call balanced, warmish and a bass boost. Impressed.
2. Build quality and fit. Wow, these really impress here. They are so small! Nice piece of engineering given everyone else is making huge earbuds that stick out all over the place. I imagine getting this SQ into this small package was a tough feat. They are very light and the stock ear tips have a nice grippy texture to them. So even without any stabilizers, these will probably stay put during a workout.
I think these are in a dead heat with RHA True connect. At $250, these are overpriced and I would go with the MW07 every time. At $175, these are a pretty nice option particularly if the form factor is attractive to you. The RHA has newer tech and better battery life and different but IMHO equal sound. But, no updates from RHA.
Note: I don't typically use touch controls so I don't care about them. I also haven't taken these outside to test connectivity.
Edit: Some have reported issues with RHA True Connect. My first pair were DOA. Second pair have been flawless.
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Thanks for the initial impressions I have to say I’m not looking forward to updating my M-2 when they arrive tomorrow every time there’s a firmware update. Yiked
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PAIN IN THE A$$.
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I've only had slightly better success in that they replied but it took many follow up's for them to finally confirm that the V30 didn't have aptX LL support (this was when I first got the phone Dec '17). Between that, the jack issues with recording audio line-in and now screen banding, it's likely I'll forego LG with next upgrade but I'll defo want the Snapdragon 855 so I can take advantage of the TW Stereo profile.
In hindsight, I may not have paired the Mpow T5 correctly with the Note 9 thus didn't notice any improvement. Gotta retest that...
Is there anyone on this thread with Mavin Air-X (QCC3026) or T5 that has it paired with a Snapdragon 845?
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i have not figured out how the qcc3026 true wireless works with my g7. Other than either l or r earbud can be connected to the phone and still have stereo. Think I read somewhere that truewireless is not working on the qualcomm aqnd needs phone updates.
Thanks. Yeah, more in-depth troubleshooting will wait until this weekend, but both claim they did the full factory reset at my request. But it's possible that they may not have restarted their phones since they got them 2 years ago.
No mention of volume imbalance.
Oh, my wife just told me the Earins came today. Ordered on Saturday. Free shipping from Sweden and 3 business days' delivery (sign required) is damn impressive. Don't know what that cost but it wasn't cheap. So now I feel like the $175 all-in was an even better deal.
Will test out the sound when I get home.
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MTW & MW07 Comparison, MTW Impressions
CASE
MTW: Attractive, not as large as I thought. In between the size of the Bose and M&D. Cloth finish is different, but I can appreciate that it won't show small scratches over time. Magnetically closes, but I wish the hinge felt a bit more robust. Still a nice case and in the upper end of all TWEs. Charged the MTW overnight and case still green this morning. Now I'm seeing the L / R battery life variance (93% / 100%).
MW07: Hands down the best built case and most luxurious out there. Zero complaints, other than it's a fingerprint magnet. I'll probably try an oleophobic polish/spray and see how that works.
CONTROLS
MTW: Takes some time to get the touch-based timing down, but once I did, it was pretty seamless. I did pause a few times when trying to change tracks, but overall, I think it works.
MW07: 3 button scheme, no fuss, no muss. Definitely easier and almost error proof.
APP
MTW: Disconnected once randomly and wouldn't reconnect, even though I was still connected via BT and playing music. Not a fan of the "dot" EQ control scheme. However, I can still EQ to where I like it, although it took far longer than a standard EQ. Good for the average Joe, but at this price, it'd be nice to have an EQ scheme geared more towards music aficionados.
MW07: No app. MTW Wins.
CONNECTION
MTW: Rock solid. Had ZERO drop outs between buds when using at the gym with my phone 30+ feet away (no walls). Impressive range for TWEs, in fact, the best range of all I've tried.
MW07: BT 4.2, so not quite apples to apples, but still has good range with no drop outs between buds.
BATTERY
MTW: As advertised. I didn't go the entire 4 hours, but I was over 3.5 and never got a battery warning. Confident this can make it to 4+ hours.
MW07: I can get a solid 3+ hours, but not quite the stated 3.5. I listen at 40% volume on primarily an iPhone Xs Max.
FIT
MTW: Very ergonomic fit (for me). As I noted earlier, it's like the E8, but better. I can roll with the standard medium tips and simply take out of the case and plop them in. I don't have to fiddle around with the fit like I did with the E8. Comfortable. Wore them comfortably for 3.5+ hours. Good isolation.
MW07: A bit more comfortable than the MTW, but not my much. Isolation is not as good, however.
SOUND
MTW: Bold, beefy, big sound. As a comparison, I get the same "impression" when listening to my Over-Ear HD1 Wireless or Crossfade Wireless 1 (w/ XL ear pads). In-your-face brand of sound that is definitely on the warm side, but adjustable to your preferences with the app. Bass is forceful and punchy, although it does not have quite the same definition the MW07 has. They are definitely fun to listen to and work very well in the gym, commuting, or just rocking out. Listening to these is like being in a club.
MW07: Highly refined and transparent. Detailed mids. Textured bass. Unmatched, technically, by any other TWE I've tried. Listening to these is like being in an exclusive Country Club with Armand de Brignac in one hand and a cigar in the other.
OVERALL
I really like the MTW. They are a different animal than the MW07, so I can see myself keeping both. For me, it depends what I'm doing or what mood I'm in. The MTW have an aggressiveness the MW07 doesn't. The MW07, however, is more refined. You can't go wrong with either of them.
CASE
MTW: Attractive, not as large as I thought. In between the size of the Bose and M&D. Cloth finish is different, but I can appreciate that it won't show small scratches over time. Magnetically closes, but I wish the hinge felt a bit more robust. Still a nice case and in the upper end of all TWEs. Charged the MTW overnight and case still green this morning. Now I'm seeing the L / R battery life variance (93% / 100%).
MW07: Hands down the best built case and most luxurious out there. Zero complaints, other than it's a fingerprint magnet. I'll probably try an oleophobic polish/spray and see how that works.
CONTROLS
MTW: Takes some time to get the touch-based timing down, but once I did, it was pretty seamless. I did pause a few times when trying to change tracks, but overall, I think it works.
MW07: 3 button scheme, no fuss, no muss. Definitely easier and almost error proof.
APP
MTW: Disconnected once randomly and wouldn't reconnect, even though I was still connected via BT and playing music. Not a fan of the "dot" EQ control scheme. However, I can still EQ to where I like it, although it took far longer than a standard EQ. Good for the average Joe, but at this price, it'd be nice to have an EQ scheme geared more towards music aficionados.
MW07: No app. MTW Wins.
CONNECTION
MTW: Rock solid. Had ZERO drop outs between buds when using at the gym with my phone 30+ feet away (no walls). Impressive range for TWEs, in fact, the best range of all I've tried.
MW07: BT 4.2, so not quite apples to apples, but still has good range with no drop outs between buds.
BATTERY
MTW: As advertised. I didn't go the entire 4 hours, but I was over 3.5 and never got a battery warning. Confident this can make it to 4+ hours.
MW07: I can get a solid 3+ hours, but not quite the stated 3.5. I listen at 40% volume on primarily an iPhone Xs Max.
FIT
MTW: Very ergonomic fit (for me). As I noted earlier, it's like the E8, but better. I can roll with the standard medium tips and simply take out of the case and plop them in. I don't have to fiddle around with the fit like I did with the E8. Comfortable. Wore them comfortably for 3.5+ hours. Good isolation.
MW07: A bit more comfortable than the MTW, but not my much. Isolation is not as good, however.
SOUND
MTW: Bold, beefy, big sound. As a comparison, I get the same "impression" when listening to my Over-Ear HD1 Wireless or Crossfade Wireless 1 (w/ XL ear pads). In-your-face brand of sound that is definitely on the warm side, but adjustable to your preferences with the app. Bass is forceful and punchy, although it does not have quite the same definition the MW07 has. They are definitely fun to listen to and work very well in the gym, commuting, or just rocking out. Listening to these is like being in a club.
MW07: Highly refined and transparent. Detailed mids. Textured bass. Unmatched, technically, by any other TWE I've tried. Listening to these is like being in an exclusive Country Club with Armand de Brignac in one hand and a cigar in the other.
OVERALL
I really like the MTW. They are a different animal than the MW07, so I can see myself keeping both. For me, it depends what I'm doing or what mood I'm in. The MTW have an aggressiveness the MW07 doesn't. The MW07, however, is more refined. You can't go wrong with either of them.
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Does it just take forever (like the E8) or is the process wonky and error-prone?
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It just takes forever, like 30 minutes per bud
