Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[nerdspot]

on their official website they say APTX HD

https://www.vivo.com.cn/vivo/earphone/

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Ah cool! All the merchant and news sites said aptX, AAC and SBC, which is why I thought they didn't support aptX-HD. Vivo is a big enough company that there is perhaps no point to second guessing their official spec sheet.

 

[mikp]

Ah cool! All the merchant and news sites said aptX, AAC and SBC, which is why I thought they didn't support aptX-HD. Vivo is a big enough company that there is perhaps no point to second guessing their official spec sheet.

their spec does not mention apt-x hd

 

[nerdspot]

Not really, I posted a detailed comparison a couple of weeks ago here The Track Air+ were more convenient but I ended up sending back both.

In case others are interested, this is webvan's impressions of the Track Air +.

 

[hifi80sman]

I thought it was in case you $h1t yourself due to the incredible results you are expecting.

I'm sure they are tuned waaay differently from the TWS600 and likely just share the same shell/case basics. Almost certainly made by the same OEM, so we'll see how these fare for a mere $29.90 ($33.90 w/ $4 off coupon).

 

[nerdspot]

on their official website they say APTX HD

https://www.vivo.com.cn/vivo/earphone/

Use Gtranslate

their spec does not mention apt-x hd

Their website that Francesco posted does say aptX HD when translated to English but I don't know any Chinese to verify that the text actually says aptX HD or just says some marketing phrases like "APTX High Definition 6D Sound". /shrug

But like I said, none of the news or merchant websites state aptX-HD support for the Vivo TWS.

 

[hifi80sman]

They sound great, i'd say less low mids than the T5 but with much more sparkle and clarity more V shaped surely. I like these more than my T5 I sold my Tevi's couldn't bear to pay double for an eq'd T5. I think these earfun's sound close to as good as my anbes', I love the mids of my anbes', but the Free's have that definition and sparkle in the high end that give the snare that crack that I love. They don't have as much sub-bass as the anbes/ssk or as much low mid-range, but they sound cleaner and more defined like the tevi. If i had to guess, based on the Freq. response chart I saw of the Tevi's i'd say these have less mids. I don't know if that makes any sense, but pick up a set and try them out. They are big and I only have two sets of tips that work that don't make my ears feel too much pressure. There's no mono mode or volume control, but haven't stopped using them except to charge them once since I got them. Also, They have graphene drivers just like the Tevi's. If you like the Tevi's I think you'll like these. They have more bass, but not an overwhelming amount, but they clarity is really great without being too bright at loud volumes.

Have never actually tried the Earfun Free, but I did have the Anker Zolo Liberty, which I think the Earfun Free is a clone of. They were nice, but Anker's new Liberty series is definitely a step up.

Nice feedback on them. They are having a promo where you can win a free pair or get up to a 40% off coupon by signing up. Did you use a promo code?

 

[d3myz]

Whoa! These Chisana's are Bass Canons!, but they also have pretty dang good mids, they highs are ok, they don't sound muddy, but dang. and they are LOUD.

 

[Francesco Montanari]

you're right, but official website translation seems pretty clear... so maybe I need to buy them to know

Their website that Francesco posted does say aptX HD when translated to English but I don't know any Chinese to verify that the text actually says aptX HD or just says some marketing phrases like "APTX High Definition 6D Sound". /shrug

But like I said, none of the news or merchant websites state aptX-HD support for the Vivo TWS.

 

[mikp]

Their website that Francesco posted does say aptX HD when translated to English but I don't know any Chinese to verify that the text actually says aptX HD or just says some marketing phrases like "APTX High Definition 6D Sound". /shrug

But like I said, none of the news or merchant websites state aptX-HD support for the Vivo TWS.

just says apt-x in their spec, so who knows- Seen many mention apt-x as hd sound, but still normal apt-x- Something clearly has happened regarding qcc5xxx series and apt-x hd, Early in the year they mentioned apt-x hd, but now comes without it.

 

[nerdspot]

just says apt-x in their spec, so who knows- Seen many mention apt-x as hd sound, but still normal apt-x- Something clearly has happened regarding qcc5xxx series and apt-x hd, Early in the year they mentioned apt-x hd, but now comes without it.

I think this is Qualcomm being Qualcomm. I really wish Bluetooth SIG would finish their rewrite and render aptX moot. I can't wait for the day when we can stop having SBC HD/aptX/LDAC/AAC (Apple)/AAC (Android) arguments and just focus on the sound, fit, comfort etc for TWS buds.

 

[geoxile]

I think this is Qualcomm being Qualcomm. I really wish Bluetooth SIG would finish their rewrite and render aptX moot. I can't wait for the day when we can stop having SBC HD/aptX/LDAC/AAC (Apple)/AAC (Android) arguments and just focus on the sound, fit, comfort etc for TWS buds.

TWS is a Qualcomm trademark. And they'll probably continue to push aptx because they have pretty tight control over the bt and phone soc ecosystem. Their TWS Plus feature only works if you have a TWS Plus bluetooth chipset like the qcc30xx or qcc51xx and use it with another qualcomm receiver, namely the ones found in Snapdrsgon platforms for mobile devices.

 

[nerdspot]

TWS is a Qualcomm trademark.

True Wireless Stereo may be a Qualcomm trademark but that will not stop others from creating new true wireless specs or features (see Apple H1, W1, Airoha's true wireless series etc.). I used TWS in a colloquial sense to refer to true wireless earbuds and did not mean to reference any trademarked technology.

And they'll probably continue to push aptx because they have pretty tight control over the bt and phone soc ecosystem. Their TWS Plus feature only works if you have a TWS Plus bluetooth chipset like the qcc30xx or qcc51xx and use it with another qualcomm receiver, namely the ones found in Snapdrsgon platforms for mobile devices.

Even that is not guaranteed. Pixel 3 (and XL) have the Snapdragon 845 (which has True Wireless Stereo and True Wireless Stereo Plus support) but the devices themselves don't have support for those features. I'm not sure about Pixel 4 (and the XL) but it's not in their spec sheet either. Although I think Google might enable them sooner than later to support the new Pixel Buds (the true wireless ones)

 

[assassin10000]

Sad day... Looks like my Smabat is back to the es100...

Got any soldering/diy skills? You can change the hooks for ones from a mmcx cable. More comfortable but not as secure for high energy activities.

Oh crap, as often as I change my IEMs on my BT20, I shall from now on proceed with even more caution.

How was that fit for you? I tried with my Rose Masya earbuds and, well, it kinda works, but when I move, I constantly have to re-adjust fit ...

Got some automotive pin tools? Makes removal way easier.

 

[mattedialdoc]

So...the KOSETON. For $30, I think I'm going to keep them. They are certainly not world-beaters, but for a solid gym/yard work pair, I think they fit the bill. They do not come close to dethroning the current value picks (Anbes 359, MPOW T5).

- They don't stick out much and look fairly sleek.
- Deep, resonating bass.
- Comfortable
- USB-C
- aptX & AAC support.
- Good battery life.
- Nice Aluminum case.
- Responsive touch controls (play/pause, track, volume, assistant).
- No connection issues.

Sound out of the box is thick, a bit muddy, and bass heavy. Using the "Bass Reducer" setting in Spotify (never thought I'd actually say that) and pushing the highs up (never thought I'd say that either), they sound decent and the speakers don't distort. Mic for calls is about average. Voice is a little muffled, but volume as heard by the caller is decent, so usable.

My Koseton just arrived. Mmmmmm not a keeper. These are very muddy to me. I compared them to the MPOW T5 and the T5 are such a better sound. Crisper vocal, clean mids and sharper throughout than the Koseton. It was worth a shot.

 

[d3myz]

Have never actually tried the Earfun Free, but I did have the Anker Zolo Liberty, which I think the Earfun Free is a clone of. They were nice, but Anker's new Liberty series is definitely a step up.

Nice feedback on them. They are having a promo where you can win a free pair or get up to a 40% off coupon by signing up. Did you use a promo code?

I did not. i'll have to do that. scored $5 off. not bad, thanks for the heads up, you should check them out, you can always pulls the highs down like you like it.