Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[PixelSquish]

How do you fin

How do you find the MTW4 vs the Mystique ? thinking of selling to get the MTW4

I think for pure SQ I like the Mystique more. Same as when I got the Mystique with the MTW3.

But as I posted earlier, acquiring the Shure TW2 and using them with my Bonneville or Supermoon or Cascara, it's better SQ than the Mystique - which is why I sold them. The Shure TW2 will be my go to TWS for high sound quality.

The MTW4 are for a good quality sound but when I also want more features like a solid ambient mode, good phone call capability, good ANC - things the Mystique does not have. And the MTW series sound lovely to me. I like them better than any Sony, Technics, JVC, etc... I've ever tried. I have not tried a bunch like B&O or Bose or Audio Technica.

 

[clerkpalmer]

Announcements and release dates should be kept to no more than 2 weeks in between. These long periods between announcements and releases are just a waste

This. And the more "iterative" the product is (i.e. MTW3 v. 4), the shorter it should be if at all. I propose we ban all preorders frankly. It's an obnoxious marketing strategy if you ask me. I wish it would die forever.

 

[helmutcheese]

 

[Saraugie]

Returned the first pair of Technics AZ-80s, the left side completely dead, got the exchanged pair, synched...very smoothly. Did the update. I've been searching for a post, advising to EQ a certain setting...please repost.

15 minute *initial impressions A/B~ing vs Bose Ultras. Source HiBy M300. Playing the same song, I returned the buds in the case, put the others in, @4 second interval.
Could not get the 80s to connect via the LDAC codec only SBC. Haven't searched for solutions yet. The Ultras connect via aptX Adaptive.
Equal noise isolation, which was surprising. Couldn't hear a loud hair dryer on high unless an inch from my ears.
The Ultras sounded fuller, more forward. The bass on the Ultras hit harder and deeper. Maybe I heard wider sound stage from the 80s.
The APPs seem on par.
The 80s are underwhelming so far. LDAC and adjusting EQ could help, a lot.

I decided to sell the AVIOT TE-Z1PNK Black. They have been up for sale here for about a week. I'll be taking a loss, no sweat. Relatively speaking it was a inexpensive education.

 

[SussyTofu420]

I decided to sell the AVIOT TE-Z1PNK Black. They have been up for sale here for about a week. I'll be taking a loss, no sweat. Relatively speaking it was a inexpensive education.

I missed the reason you're selling the Aviots, did you not like them? I have the ZX1 on pre-order, but initially was interested in the AZ-80.

 

[Gilroypro]

Returned the first pair of Technics AZ-80s, the left side completely dead, got the exchanged pair, synched...very smoothly. Did the update. I've been searching for a post, advising to EQ a certain setting...please repost.

15 minute *initial impressions A/B~ing vs Bose Ultras. Source HiBy M300. Playing the same song, I returned the buds in the case, put the others in, @4 second interval.
Could not get the 80s to connect via the LDAC codec only SBC. Haven't searched for solutions yet. The Ultras connect via aptX Adaptive.
Equal noise isolation, which was surprising. Couldn't hear a loud hair dryer on high unless an inch from my ears.
The Ultras sounded fuller, more forward. The bass on the Ultras hit harder and deeper. Maybe I heard wider sound stage from the 80s.
The APPs seem on par.
The 80s are underwhelming so far. LDAC and adjusting EQ could help, a lot.

I decided to sell the AVIOT TE-Z1PNK Black. They have been up for sale here for about a week. I'll be taking a loss, no sweat. Relatively speaking it was a inexpensive education.

I thought you bought the TE-ZX1-PNK, and not the TE-Z1PNK. The one you got has only one planar and one BA

 

[Saraugie]

I thought you bought the TE-ZX1-PNK, and not the TE-Z1PNK. The one you got has only one planar and one BA

Exactly, me too....After I ordered it, I realized I didn't do the translation or my homework correctly.

 

[Saraugie]

I missed the reason you're selling the Aviots, did you not like them? I have the ZX1 on pre-order, but initially was interested in the AZ-80.

They are brand new and still shrink wrapped, so I have nothing to report.

 

[BooleanBones]

Returned the first pair of Technics AZ-80s, the left side completely dead, got the exchanged pair, synched...very smoothly. Did the update. I've been searching for a post, advising to EQ a certain setting...please repost.

15 minute *initial impressions A/B~ing vs Bose Ultras. Source HiBy M300. Playing the same song, I returned the buds in the case, put the others in, @4 second interval.
Could not get the 80s to connect via the LDAC codec only SBC. Haven't searched for solutions yet. The Ultras connect via aptX Adaptive.
Equal noise isolation, which was surprising. Couldn't hear a loud hair dryer on high unless an inch from my ears.
The Ultras sounded fuller, more forward. The bass on the Ultras hit harder and deeper. Maybe I heard wider sound stage from the 80s.
The APPs seem on par.
The 80s are underwhelming so far. LDAC and adjusting EQ could help, a lot.

I decided to sell the AVIOT TE-Z1PNK Black. They have been up for sale here for about a week. I'll be taking a loss, no sweat. Relatively speaking it was a inexpensive education.

Personally, I like the Treble+ setting. I don't have any issues with LDAC, might find some additional information in the AZ-80 thread that is out on the forums.

 

[helmutcheese]

Anyone speak Japanese?

 

[TK33]

Returned the first pair of Technics AZ-80s, the left side completely dead, got the exchanged pair, synched...very smoothly. Did the update. I've been searching for a post, advising to EQ a certain setting...please repost.

15 minute *initial impressions A/B~ing vs Bose Ultras. Source HiBy M300. Playing the same song, I returned the buds in the case, put the others in, @4 second interval.
Could not get the 80s to connect via the LDAC codec only SBC. Haven't searched for solutions yet. The Ultras connect via aptX Adaptive.
Equal noise isolation, which was surprising. Couldn't hear a loud hair dryer on high unless an inch from my ears.
The Ultras sounded fuller, more forward. The bass on the Ultras hit harder and deeper. Maybe I heard wider sound stage from the 80s.
The APPs seem on par.
The 80s are underwhelming so far. LDAC and adjusting EQ could help, a lot.

I decided to sell the AVIOT TE-Z1PNK Black. They have been up for sale here for about a week. I'll be taking a loss, no sweat. Relatively speaking it was a inexpensive education.

Personally, I like the Treble+ setting. I don't have any issues with LDAC, might find some additional information in the AZ-80 thread that is out on the forums.

I like the Treble+ setting as well. Tried to replicate it with a little less bass but proved to be more time consuming than I hoped so I just left it and it is really growing on me.

For LDAC, I think I had to change settings in the Technics app to enable LDAC on the TWS themselves (under Connections Mode in the Settings menu/tab) and also enable LDAC for the specific bluetooth device (my AZ80s) in the bluetooth settings menu on my phone (not the Technics app). Phone is the Samsung Galaxy Fold 5. Screenshots attached for your reference.

EDIT: meant to add my Fold 5 is running Android 14, One UI 6.0 so it may look different on your device.

Hope this helps.

 

[Saraugie]

I like the Treble+ setting as well. Tried to replicate it with a little less bass but proved to be more time consuming than I hoped so I just left it and it is really growing on me.

For LDAC, I think I had to change settings in the Technics app to enable LDAC on the TWS themselves (under Connections Mode in the Settings menu/tab) and also enable LDAC for the specific bluetooth device (my AZ80s) in the bluetooth settings menu on my phone (not the Technics app). Phone is the Samsung Galaxy Fold 5. Screenshots attached for your reference.

EDIT: meant to add my Fold 5 is running Android 14, One UI 6.0 so it may look different on your device.

Hope this helps.

Thank you

 

[dj24]

Samsung Buds Pro 2 are currently $109 (lowest I've seen them for) currently on Amazon..

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...=1&ascsubtag=83621b3ghd51pq1bs9yspRSiXwa8m6u8

 

[jsmiller58]

Thank you

Yeah, if I recall correctly there is a similar dance that is required by the XM5 as well. Seems pretty customer unfriendly to require enabling in the app a feature that is almost guaranteed to be desired by the user. There may be some features that might require disabling LDAC, but I think it would be safest to assume the best default is to start out enabled.

Anyway, I hope everything is working now for you!

 

[davidmthekidd]

Samsung Buds Pro 2 are currently $109 (lowest I've seen them for) currently on Amazon..

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...=1&ascsubtag=83621b3ghd51pq1bs9yspRSiXwa8m6u8

are they used or refurbished? The Samsung store currently has a very different price, $179.

https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Blue...s=electronics&sprefix=,electronics,399&sr=1-4