[helmutcheese]

^^ Senn MTW3 I would have kept these due to the SQ if they fitted me, many complained they are too small even the wings over the sports model.

Did the later FW (the one that added Multipoint) really fix all the issues listed inc the BT connection issues, and what about the charge case issue where they were still powered on.

 

[futaki]

moondrop kato: 9/10
moondrop starfield: 8.5/10

sony wf-1000xm4: 4.5/10
samsung buds2 pro: 5.5/10
airpods pro 2: 5/10
sennheiser mtw3: 4.5/10

these are most popular wireless models. I don't want to have a wired-wireless discussion. I just wanted to show the distance of wireless technology to the audiophile world.

 

[clerkpalmer]

I’m not expecting much - probably a waste of time. Thankfully my APP2 just arrived so I think I’m good for a day or two.

Bad news. APP2 arrived with a missing screen and they sound terrible. Something is definitely wrong. It’s weird my iPhone recognizes and the serial number them but it says no coverage for warranty. Guessing I got scammed. They are definitely defective. They look and feel legit however. Maybe a knock off?

 

[shooter]

moondrop kato: 9/10
moondrop starfield: 8.5/10

sony wf-1000xm4: 4.5/10
samsung buds2 pro: 5.5/10
airpods pro 2: 5/10
sennheiser mtw3: 4.5/10

these are most popular wireless models. I don't want to have a wired-wireless discussion. I just wanted to show the distance of wireless technology to the audiophile world.

Apart from fact that sony xm4 is nowhere near senns mtw3

 

[Toom]

moondrop kato: 9/10
moondrop starfield: 8.5/10

sony wf-1000xm4: 4.5/10
samsung buds2 pro: 5.5/10
airpods pro 2: 5/10
sennheiser mtw3: 4.5/10

these are most popular wireless models. I don't want to have a wired-wireless discussion. I just wanted to show the distance of wireless technology to the audiophile world.

And you've compared the TWS units to wired IEMs in the gym and out in noisy public environments?

 

[erockg]

moondrop kato: 9/10
moondrop starfield: 8.5/10

sony wf-1000xm4: 4.5/10
samsung buds2 pro: 5.5/10
airpods pro 2: 5/10
sennheiser mtw3: 4.5/10

these are most popular wireless models. I don't want to have a wired-wireless discussion. I just wanted to show the distance of wireless technology to the audiophile world.

Cool story.

 

[erockg]

Bad news. APP2 arrived with a missing screen and they sound terrible. Something is definitely wrong. It’s weird my iPhone recognizes and the serial number them but it says no coverage for warranty. Guessing I got scammed. They are definitely defective. They look and feel legit however. Maybe a knock off?

That's awful, but I guess not surprise. Chargeback?

 

[erockg]

I’m not expecting much - probably a waste of time. Thankfully my APP2 just arrived so I think I’m good for a day or two.

Maybe try dabbling in a great IEM with an adapter. I just picked up the Fostex TM2C for a great price to pair with my Thieaudio Clairvoyance. Going to leave my SE846s on my Shure TW2. Between this and my PX8 and H95s, I'm slowly selling off most of my TWS except for my favs. Getting ready for the Mystique and a few others

 

[futaki]

And you've compared the TWS units to wired IEMs in the gym and out in noisy public environments?

no. I used them all for a while and returned them.

 

[dweaver]

Well the Linkbuds sold today and I then saw the following on sale for $129CAD so picked them up since I have not tried at AT TWS for a while and thought what the heck!

 

[dweaver]

So have now scratched the itch for JBL, LG, Audio Technica, and Sony...

The AT's are charging but did have a quick listen and they sounded pretty good. Was worried their size might be to big, they seemed a bit more comfy than the XM4 but definitely filled my ear. Will see if they bother me after trying them for a while... Starting to think the days of using bigger buds are numbered for me... Offer great passive isolation though...

 

[erockg]

Well the Linkbuds sold today and I then saw the following on sale for $129CAD so picked them up since I have not tried at AT TWS for a while and thought what the heck!

 

[dweaver]

LOL, been on a tear, sell a bud buy a bud, sell 2 buds, but a bud .

I have now tried all the brands or models aside from the expensive big boys so going stop for a while.

The Sony's have surprised me the most sonically in a good way. Have to admit I am now waiting to see what they do with the XM5.

Ok what the hell is going on with these ATH? The app says I can switch the button mapping but it does nothing! If I say switch between left and right side it actually just changes the right side to use volume controls instead of track skipping. It's buggy as all get out!

Edit: NVM it is poorly done, but my issue was I needed to turn off the Google assistant feature and then I could assign right and left as I wished.

Like the 64 step volume, nice touch regarding refined control. Had to set the button speed to slow. Mist be getting old LOL.

The mids are nice but lack a bit of detail and emotion compared to the XM4. Bass is not as punchy or hard hitting as well. They are good but giving me any wow factor which strangely enough to XM4 did.

I need to articulate what I am hearing out of the XM4, in what songs and what parts.

 

[subguy812]

Making way for some new gear...selling my TWX9....begrudgingly because I love them

 

[Fudgebar]

Apart from fact that sony xm4 is nowhere near senns mtw3

lol...I was thinking the same thing! either bump up that Sennheiser score or lower that Sony XM4 score.....but having them rated the same SQ has me questioning this fellows ears