Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[tiagopinto]

Does it matter (I know what you're getting at), deaf peeps can drive legally.

Hey, I’m not judging. I was just surprised on how into the music (and distracted) you have to be to test headphones while driving. I was also worried about other people on the road. But to each his own.

 

[helmutcheese]

Less so than stoners/drunks or even mobile (cell) phone zombies behind the wheel but I get what you are saying but not sure if illegal here in UK/

 

[tiagopinto]

Knowing your very active lifestyle, I would probably go for some good IEMs and a BT adapter. This gives you the option to listen no matter where you are (out, or in home). Any of the newer planars are fantastic, from what I hear. I have the Timeless, but am trying to make the decision to get the Raptgo Hook-x or the Tinhifi P1 Max. If you are wanting any kind of noise cancellation, you won't want the Hook-X though, because they are open back (but I do hear they don't leak like you would think they do). The good news is that they are both around $200, and for another $100, you can have a good set for home, and some TWS (the UTWS5 has passthrough from what I hear) for out and about. I am also interested in the up-and-coming Vulkan from DUNU, but I will probably be waiting for a while to see some more talk about them.

Just my opinion but TWS won't last as long as IEMs will, so I would get a good set of TWS (as a backup/compliment) once you have your main set secured (since you already have a good set of TWS). This is only the way I would see it, and your thoughts may be the total opposite from mine..

I like how you read my mind. That’s where I’m at now. But these new exciting TWS keep popping up and teasing me.

Personally I’d use TWS as a compliment to whatever IEMs you have at home. If you work out a lot, get excessive ear wax etc, I’d go for ones that are rated IP 57 or so like the EX is. That’s the motivating factor of me getting the EX despite just getting the A&K.

It’s almost never gym workout but a lot of bike riding alternated with a lot of going to the beach for bodyboarding. I also divide work time 70% IEM, 30% TWS. Since I got the CA MT I stopped using wired earbuds or my Bluebuds X on the street too.

That was what I was getting at also, but I think he is wanting to upgrade his IEM also. So I thought, get the IEM and BT first, then get a set of pure TWS later as budget permits, that way he already has his IEM and the compliment for it (the IEM w/BT adapter)...

Again, that’s where I’m at. Get better IEMs, period. Either stay in the 300/400 range or try and go for the 600/700 range, probably in the models I referred to.
Then sell the MT and upgrade my mobile setup now. Or... keep the MT, for now, and get a new TWS when lossless comes. This would maybe allow me to go for the higher tier in IEMs.
Can’t have it all, indecisive person. But an adapter now could change the priorities.

 

[jant71]

Uh-Oh! We got trouble...for erockg's wallet. New Final flagship ZE8000...

Buuuuut, it won't be around till later this year so still time to put a little cash on the side here and there.

 

[samandhi]

Less so than stoners/drunks or even mobile (cell) phone zombies behind the wheel but I get what you are saying but not sure if illegal here in UK/

Here in the US it goes by state laws; alot like helmet laws here (some states there is none, in others you have to wear one). Some states it is illegal to have both of them in your ears; meaning you are allowed to have one in one ear. Other states there are no laws against having both of them in. The thought behind the laws that only allow one in is so that you can hear emergency vehicles when needed. To me it is a silly law (not on paper, only in practice) because you are allowed to crank your car stereo to as loud as you like it, thereby still nullifying the ability to hear your surroundings anyhow.

I think the law regarding this is pretty obscure and not really enforced very much, but since I ride a motorcycle, I make it a point to know those laws just in case...

 

[dweaver]

Uh-Oh! We got trouble...for erockg's wallet. New Final flagship ZE8000...



Buuuuut, it won't be around till later this year so still time to put a little cash on the side here and there.

Those look god awful! Is that really the design with the big block on them?

 

[jant71]

Those look god awful! Is that really the design with the big block on them?

That is a super-dooper antenna on there. You can get your local TV broadcasts on this thing. Yep, supposed to be the "final" design. Only the prototype so far so perhaps they have a chance to "re-think" it but doubt it. Simple 3 compartment design. First has the driver alone then the middle has the battery and chips. Then the outer for antenna, mics, and touch sensors. I get the concept but, no, not done in an elegant way. But hey! You can use them as fidget spinners when you are bored right?

 

[Bhelpoori]

I don’t agree with this table either. I’ve found Devialet Gemini much better than the APP in my experience walking around and riding subways in NYC.

And as a final engineering note here: ANC is incredibly hard to measure and test even with a ton of expensive kit, and even more difficult to compare between headphones. If you ever see measurements and results taken like this be very wary.

 

[Not so fat head]

Uh-Oh! We got trouble...for erockg's wallet. New Final flagship ZE8000...



Buuuuut, it won't be around till later this year so still time to put a little cash on the side here and there.

Would lay down a bet, Final is going for pure audiophile sound…. Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead…
Last thing this hobby needs, is another ear bud…. We must have 100 different models now!!!!

 

[jant71]

We need some of this for a TWS case... https://urbanista.com/en-us/collections/frontpage/products/los-angeles

We already have TWS with solar charge case but it is the sunlight only type and the Urbanista is indoor or outdoor lighting.

Ditch those cables and pads both!!

 

[Sustenter]

Hello,
I am looking for TWS iem without latence to watch videos, and with the best sound quality as possible (this criteria is secondary to latence though).
Is the 1more Piston Buds pro good enough for this purpose ?
Thank you.

 

[C_Lindbergh]

Hello,
I am looking for TWS iem without latence to watch videos, and with the best sound quality as possible (this criteria is secondary to latence though).
Is the 1more Piston Buds pro good enough for this purpose ?
Thank you.

Your best bet is a device with APTX adaptive, for example the MTW3 or B&O EX (depending on your budget/needs).

Not sure if you're source would be a phone or PC/TV, but for the latter you'd need an Aptx Adaptive USB adapter from Aliexpress. When it comes to phones you should be fine even your phone doesn't support ATPX adaptive, unless we're talking about live videos ofc.

 

[TK33]

I'm trying to find a decent TWS earbud, (not IEM), because I need some buds for situational awareness.

I have considered: Samsung Galaxy Buds Live, SoundPEATS Air3, FIIL CC2, Sabbat x12 Ultra or Sabbat x12 Pro, etc.

I tried to find out what the difference is between the Sabbat x12 Pro vs Sabbat x12 Ultra, and couldn't find much. One article said the 'Pro' may not have Apt X? Anyone know the differences?


Any recommendations?
TIA

EDIT: I am probably not interested in any apple products because I use Android and Windows.

Have you looked at the Sony Linkbuds (original, not the recently announced Linkbuds S)? They are the best for situational awareness since they don't block any sound at all. Before I got them, the Samsung Galaxy Buds Live we're my go to for calls and situations where I wanted to hear my surroundings (like biking for example). I find the Linkbuds to be more balanced for music (more to my liking) and much lighter and comfortable. They are my new go to for calls but also use them for music when in the office. Galaxy Buds Live are great as well but I found it to be more V shaped and bass heavy than I liked so I really only used it for calls. I also have other TWS that I use for music such as the PI7.

Btw I was very happy to find my Linkbuds sitting on my desk when I went back into my office. If they were lost, I would've bought a new set right away.

 

[Sustenter]

Your best bet is a device with APTX adaptive, for example the MTW3 or B&O EX (depending on your budget/needs).

Not sure if you're source would be a phone or PC/TV, but for the latter you'd need an Aptx Adaptive USB adapter from Aliexpress. When it comes to phones you should be fine even your phone doesn't support ATPX adaptive, unless we're talking about live videos ofc.

Thank you, I wanted to buy cheap TWS and then buy full sized bt headphones but apparently cheap TWS don't have the codec for low latency, so I guess I'll just go with a TWS with good enough sound quality for under 50$.

Is the 1more Piston Buds pro good enough for this purpose ?

 

[Tommy C]

Thank you, I wanted to buy cheap TWS and then buy full sized bt headphones but apparently cheap TWS don't have the codec for low latency, so I guess I'll just go with a TWS with good enough sound quality for under 50$.

Is the 1more Piston Buds pro good enough for this purpose ?

I don’t know about the 1More Pison Buds but based on photos it looks like they are still in-ear, no?

I have the FIIL CC2 and they are solid. They fit like true earbuds and have decent sound and give you plenty of awareness to your surrounding.