Nah, not worth it. Probably tough to compete with all the big tech players in the market these days. Sad state of affairs we are in 6 years later though with mediocre performance around. Hopefully, Qualcomm's lossless changes things.Sounds like a HINT email to them is in order based on your feelings about your old ones
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Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?
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Podster
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Maybe but as they say "The Proof is in the Pudding" It's not the first time the word LossLess has been thrown around only to find that's not always the case!Nah, not worth it. Probably tough to compete with all the big tech players in the market these days. Sad state of affairs we are in 6 years later though with mediocre performance around. Hopefully, Qualcomm's lossless changes things.
erockg
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Bragi and Earin were ahead of their time. Loved both. Bragi sold their hardware business and kept their OS. Bragi OS is in the new Klipsch T5 II ANC. Have and love them!Bragi Dash were pretty damn good back in 2015 for their time. Would still rather use them over gen 1 airpods 35 days a month. Once big tech took notice like Samsung, then Apple of course, and now everyone makes one. Too bad Bragi aren't making new products but good to see they are still around.
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Bragi never wanted to be a headphone company. It was always aiming for something higher. The Dash was truly innovative and pretty damn solid as well. The Jabra Elite Sport came along pretty soon thereafter and was more polished than Bragi overall. I think Jabra was the first to really perfect the form factor. TWS has come a long way since then (probably 6 years now?). I imagine that in the next 6 years we may say a complete abandonment of wired IEMs at least for 99% of people. There will probably always be a small group that prefers wired but I expect advancements in wireless audio quality to kill the wire eventually particularly for IEMs. If I was a traditional IEM company, I would be very focused on true wireless because it isn't going away.Bragi and Earin were ahead of their time. Loved both. Bragi sold their hardware business and kept their OS. Bragi OS is in the new Klipsch T5 II ANC. Have and love them!
erockg
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See, I had those Jabra and I always reached for my Starkey Bragi Dash Pros . Wait, I've had all the Jabras. Ugh. Sad.Bragi never wanted to be a headphone company. It was always aiming for something higher. The Dash was truly innovative and pretty damn solid as well. The Jabra Elite Sport came along pretty soon thereafter and was more polished than Bragi overall. I think Jabra was the first to really perfect the form factor. TWS has come a long way since then (probably 6 years now?). I imagine that in the next 6 years we may say a complete abandonment of wired IEMs at least for 99% of people. There will probably always be a small group that prefers wired but I expect advancements in wireless audio quality to kill the wire eventually particularly for IEMs. If I was a traditional IEM company, I would be very focused on true wireless because it isn't going away.
I agree, I think TWS is just getting better. Convenience, form factor, size. SO happy they've come so far.
Yeah, even LDAC can't save the XM4's... About to put these up for sale.Maybe but as they say "The Proof is in the Pudding" It's not the first time the word LossLess has been thrown around only to find that's not always the case!
Bragi never wanted to be a headphone company. It was always aiming for something higher. The Dash was truly innovative and pretty damn solid as well. The Jabra Elite Sport came along pretty soon thereafter and was more polished than Bragi overall. I think Jabra was the first to really perfect the form factor. TWS has come a long way since then (probably 6 years now?). I imagine that in the next 6 years we may say a complete abandonment of wired IEMs at least for 99% of people. There will probably always be a small group that prefers wired but I expect advancements in wireless audio quality to kill the wire eventually particularly for IEMs. If I was a traditional IEM company, I would be very focused on true wireless because it isn't going away.
Audeze needs to redesign the i series to adapt something like the utws3 with the connectors at the top instead of bottom. Their Cypher BT ear dongles were a travesty in the looks dept. I was hoping the Euclid would be an option for utws3, but reviews weren't promising. Even the utws3 would be a no go in public looking like old school hearing aid.
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Yeah I think Audeze will be the one that gets a high end tws to the market first. Would be a game changer.Yeah, even LDAC can't save the XM4's... About to put these up for sale.
Audeze needs to redesign the i series to adapt something like the utws3 with the connectors at the top instead of bottom. Their Cypher BT ear dongles were a travesty in the looks dept. I was hoping the Euclid would be an option for utws3, but reviews weren't promising. Even the utws3 would be a no go in public looking like old school hearing aid.
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Looks a lot like the new Back Bay audio model, Tempo 30. Starts with a "T" 30 and T20. IPX 7, bass and normal sound modes and that shape...Hi guys been awhile.Ordered the New Tranya T20. Last few offerings I didn't like, so we will see if they are a keeper. I like the small size, 4 mics and low latency. Hopefully it has good highs as my prized older pair.
Back bay looks a little nicer but seems to have a slimmer case and that would knock off one charge. Back bay is cheaper. Also have low lag "movie" mode but the back bay have 8mm drivers and not 6mm.
Podster
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I'm still for the TWS adapters, if they could just shrink it a little and maybe curve the chassis to fit around the back of the ear I'd be all over it. I love the BT20S Pro and especially the option of putting any of my iem's on it, I don't like nor do I trust any earpiece that just sits in the ear or depends on the seal to hang on! Was never a fan of ear guide wires on cables but I have always worn my cables over ear for support and of course with heavier iem's its a must Like these IKKO's
erockg
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Madly in love with my Shure SE846s on the new Gen 2 Shure TWS adapters. I like them more than the Fiio and TRNs. Definitely worth a look.I'm still for the TWS adapters, if they could just shrink it a little and maybe curve the chassis to fit around the back of the ear I'd be all over it. I love the BT20S Pro and especially the option of putting any of my iem's on it, I don't like nor do I trust any earpiece that just sits in the ear or depends on the seal to hang on! Was never a fan of ear guide wires on cables but I have always worn my cables over ear for support and of course with heavier iem's its a must Like these IKKO's
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Nice, are they working on a 2 pin version that you know of?Madly in love with my Shure SE846s on the new Gen 2 Shure TWS adapters. I like them more than the Fiio and TRNs. Definitely worth a look.
erockg
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Not that I know of. Shure only uses MMCX. I did try an adapter on them and although it did work, they make the stems longer. Your mileage may vary.Nice, are they working on a 2 pin version that you know of?
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Bose QC or Soundsport are solid and don't fully seal.Any recommendations for half in ear tws?
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Yeah, I had already figured that option but being an old technician from way back any point of break in connectivity is just another opportunity for trouble LOLNot that I know of. Shure only uses MMCX. I did try an adapter on them and although it did work, they make the stems longer. Your mileage may vary.
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Do the shure iems require a pretty deep insertion? How's the sq compared to the higher end tws?Not that I know of. Shure only uses MMCX. I did try an adapter on them and although it did work, they make the stems longer. Your mileage may vary.