Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

[Tommy C]

Just finished a very short experiment with MW08 Sports. They’re beautiful and I loved the sound, but I’ll be damned if I could get the bastards to stay in my ears. Shake test? These couldn’t pass the walk test. I need fins!

After trying these, my Jabra Elite Active 75ts felt like trusty old friends. Thankfully, the MW08s didn’t sound $250 better than the Jabras, IMHO. Back they go!

For me the Jabra has a very good fit once you get used to them and find the right tips. I’m still using my Jabra Elite Sport and they always feel super secure and comfy even without the fins. I’m excited for the new Jabra lineup and will give them a try at some point as I always enjoyed their sound and reliability.

 

[Tenlow]

Just finished a very short experiment with MW08 Sports. They’re beautiful and I loved the sound, but I’ll be damned if I could get the bastards to stay in my ears. Shake test? These couldn’t pass the walk test. I need fins!

After trying these, my Jabra Elite Active 75ts felt like trusty old friends. Thankfully, the MW08s didn’t sound $250 better than the Jabras, IMHO. Back they go!

Pity that we all have different ears and different ear shapes. The MW08S fit absolutely securely in my ears and don't move a single bit no matter what I do. I can headbang as much as I want and there is no movement whatsoever. Love these buds.

 

[Tommy C]

I’m really enjoying the Fiil CC2. They are really kind of a unique product and won’t work for everyone. The design is unique. Not my favourite but not bad overall. The buds are shaped like the AirPods buds and the tuning out of the box wasn’t to my liking and it was very mid centric. They have really good mids and highs though. Bass is punchy but no rumble. Think of a single armature driver type of bass. Soundstage is rather spacious. Luckily there is an app with eq which is good with some additional features. Very unusual in that price range. All in all, if you’re looking for an open design earbuds this is a very interesting product. Battery life is excellent but the case is open so keep that in mind.
I got it as a gift but ended up keeping it lol. Not sure I would pay retail price but Amazon had them on sale and combined with a coupon and was around $40 which is a really excellent value and I use them constantly for phone calls and days when you want something different and let your ears rest.

 

[snowy8171]

what do you guys recc for a true wireless set with the best sound quality? i dont know the diff brands that are out there.

 

[TooFrank]

EQ sound way better than the E8 3rd gen. Different animal. Different drivers. I prefer the EQ. Better soundstage and clarity IMO. More mics for calls and ANC. BT 5.2. Smaller beautiful case. You can see all the specs on B&Os site.

Thanks for your assessment Was wondering because John B&O Manchester implied that the SQ was almost similar. You can hear this late (around 12min) in this review. .

 

[raulromanjr]

Over the last 2 months I have transition
from this:

Using music I personally own and have carefully curated from the best sources. Most 24bit, 88kHz+
Playing music on an AK SA700 to wired, balanced Pioneer HDJ-X10C headphones.

to this:

Playing high resolution, borrowed music from Amazon Music on my Samsung Galaxy and wirelessly sending it via LDAC to a new set of Sony WF-1000XM4s

Really have zero regrets and I'm spending more time enjoying the music.

 

[DRuM]

Got my Creative Outlier Air v3 this morning.

They sound great. To be honest, I'm not sure if they sound different to the v2. Certainly not better in my opinion. The bass is super fat and punchy much like the v2 so I'm pleased about that. So, going from graphene drivers to bio cellulose doesn't seem to change anything apart from possibly the treble. I wish I still had the v2 to compare against.

The highs are quite rolled off, absolutely no sibilance. I can't remember how the highs were on the v2 but it's possible the v2 were slightly brighter. These remind me of my Sennheiser 580 HD, very warm and smooth. Detail retrieval, bass, mids and stereo imaging is excellent. Soundstage is good though not particularly wide but more intimate.

Pairing is better and quicker than the v2. I tested the ambient mode and active noise reduction by tapping twice on the left bud to change modes. Active noise reduction, meh, I can't hear any difference. Ambient mode does seem to work but only ever so slightly. You hear a slight hiss when it's activated and the voice on the radio in the background was ever so slightly clearer but honestly, these modes are probably more marketing than actually useful. I haven't downloaded the apps yet or tried the 'super X-Fi'. So yeah, I'm pretty happy with them. I'll be interested when reviews come out or other members here get a pair to see what they think, especially if they've had the v2 as well.

 

[scubaphish]

Agreed, after listening to them for a few hours they do sound good, and with that being said the Fiil T1XS definitely give them a run for the their money at around 1/4 of the price.
Without using the eq on both, the Fiil T1Xs sound signature is less colored but it's early to say as I'm still A/B'ing them here and there.

This is not to say the CA MT aren't worth it, they do, but the Fiil is just a steal and they punch way above their weight and have no business competing with the MT on price bracket alone but they sure do and it may come down to someone's sound preference.

Finally got my Fiil T1XS and I am sincerely impressed with the sound. They are really, really nice.

 

[Tommy C]

Finally got my Fiil T1XS and I am sincerely impressed with the sound. They are really, really nice.

Awesome! Glad to hear that!
When you go the app there is a Burn In option. I ran mine for around 700 minutes and I think they sound a bit more open and coherent now. Also noticed more driver flex on both buds when inserting them. No biggies but it’s there for me.
All in all I find the sound very good even while ignoring the ridiculous price tag. They simply sound great, in low volumes too and they work flawlessly with the app and touch control.
Enjoy!

 

[regancipher]

I agree those few releases were excellent from FIIL. They definitely went backwards with the CC Pro, really feels like they just tried too hard to replicate the Huawei FreeBuds Pro

 

[Juturna]

Got screwed over while selling my XM4's yesterday, I go into town to meet him and he gets there, tries the earbuds to make sure that they work and says "OOOHhmmmmhmm i'm not so sure about the fit honestly, and they're quite pricy so I think I'll have to say no" and he started to get ready to leave despite actually giving me a solid bid online and forcing me to take the commuter train into town to meet with him.

So I had to lower the price by $30 to win him over, and it might have been his way to haggle but it honestly didn't feel like it. I just had no energy to deal with other potential buyers so I kinda just caved.
Anyway, I'm not some goddamn headphone shop where you can sample headphones before you buy them goshdarnit, I just don't think that's okay. You don't meet up with somebody to try the product and decide that it's not what you want unless it's literally a) a faulty product b) not the product advertised c) not in the condition stated in the ad, at least in my opinion.

I told him that it wasn't fair to dick around and forcing me to come into town and he was like "well i thought you had other things to do here anyway so uhh" and I said that "well I didn't, come on, you just don't back down from a deal if the product lives up to what is stated in the ad and you haven't only made a bid, you met up with the seller" and he was like "Well I disagree ackshuaallyyyy". What a douchenozzle, lucky for him that I have zero patience and is easy to run over DD

 

[chinmie]

Got screwed over while selling my XM4's yesterday, I go into town to meet him and he gets there, tries the earbuds to make sure that they work and says "OOOHhmmmmhmm i'm not so sure about the fit honestly, and they're quite pricy so I think I'll have to say no" and he started to get ready to leave despite actually giving me a solid bid online and forcing me to take the commuter train into town to meet with him.

So I had to lower the price by $30 to win him over, and it might have been his way to haggle but it honestly didn't feel like it. I just had no energy to deal with other potential buyers so I kinda just caved.
Anyway, I'm not some goddamn headphone shop where you can sample headphones before you buy them goshdarnit, I just don't think that's okay. You don't meet up with somebody to try the product and decide that it's not what you want unless it's literally a) a faulty product b) not the product advertised c) not in the condition stated in the ad, at least in my opinion.

I told him that it wasn't fair to dick around and forcing me to come into town and he was like "well i thought you had other things to do here anyway so uhh" and I said that "well I didn't, come on, you just don't back down from a deal if the product lives up to what is stated in the ad and you haven't only made a bid, you met up with the seller" and he was like "Well I disagree ackshuaallyyyy". What a douchenozzle, lucky for him that I have zero patience and is easy to run over DD

a had similar experience years ago, talked on the phone with the buyer and already agreed on a price, but when i met him, he haggled for some more to reduce the price.
nowadays i don't ever want to meet up a buyer unless the meeting place is a walking distance from where i am.
don't worry mate, i know the feeling, but that positive gesture of yours (even though it's not fun to do) will certainly make it back to you in other form from other places

 

[DRuM]

Further to my previous post on the Creative Outlier Air v3 where I said ambient mode and ANR seemed rather ineffective, I just realised that the Creative app allows you to increase the levels of both of those modes. I'll report back after I've installed the app and tested how much difference it might make.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Just hopped on to say goodbye. Maybe for a while, maybe permanently. Veterans on this forum need to change their tune.

I will not be attending CanJam and I will not be providing this site with any more content. I wish you all the best should you choose to stay here, but I can no longer support what Head-Fi has become.

Goodbye.

You’ll be missed my friend!

 

[Juturna]

what do you guys recc for a true wireless set with the best sound quality? i dont know the diff brands that are out there.

I mean, there are plenty of good true wireless earbuds out right now, if you don't have a fixed budget but just want what's best, I think people here seem to vouch for:

Bang & Olufsen Beoplay EQ
Devialet Gemini
Bowers & Wilkins PI7
Klipsch T5 II ANC

and maaaaybe
Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless 2
Sony WF-1000XM4
Galaxy Buds Pro - If you like something close to the Harman Target i guess and aren't on an iPhone.
Cambridge Audio Melomania Touch - If you're looking for something with more value for the money and don't care about ANC and call quality etc.

I might be forgetting some earbuds but these are the ones I see mentioned the most in the thread recently.
Many of these are pretty expensive and some of them have some pretty glaring flaws but unrelated to the sound, but other things (battery life, call quality, fit, ANC/lack thereof etc)