Aug 9, 2021 at 8:11 PM Post #36,031 of 70,082
Yeah, sounds a bit like an excuse. You can get some really nice reference grade IEMs or headphones at that price. Seems like everyone is hopping on the hybrid TWS bandwagon now.

I don't think I'd buy a TWS over $300 unless it had at least excellent ANC and features other than great sound quality. It'd have to be a company that I really trust or good reputation to spend that kind of dough.
I think there's still enough of a crowd out there that just wants a seamless connection to their phone without the wires and couldn't be bothered with the other features. Some days, I'm certainly like that. If that's the sort of market share Noble wants to go after, I say more power to them, especially if it means they can start using more of their own parts in the process.

The problem I foresee is that the much louder majority of customers out there are going to want all the stuff added on that requires a ton of licensure fees (LDAC included) and those tend to drown out your profit margin in a hurry.
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 8:31 PM Post #36,033 of 70,082
I think there's still enough of a crowd out there that just wants a seamless connection to their phone without the wires and couldn't be bothered with the other features. Some days, I'm certainly like that. If that's the sort of market share Noble wants to go after, I say more power to them, especially if it means they can start using more of their own parts in the process.

The problem I foresee is that the much louder majority of customers out there are going to want all the stuff added on that requires a ton of licensure fees (LDAC included) and those tend to drown out your profit margin in a hurry.
Agreed. Personally I could live without ANC but hear-through, when implemented right is a super convenient.
Personally, I’ll have to think about it a lot before spending $350 on a set of TWS knowing its lifespan might be somewhat limited.
I would like to see some reviews before passing judgment as Noble makes excellent stuff.
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 8:38 PM Post #36,034 of 70,082
Agreed. Personally I could live without ANC but hear-through, when implemented right is a super convenient.
Personally, I’ll have to think about it a lot before spending $350 on a set of TWS knowing its lifespan might be somewhat limited.
I would like to see some reviews before passing judgment as Noble makes excellent stuff.
Wholeheartedly agree. Took me a very long time to appreciate the value in what I had with the Noble X; that's led me to never just writing Noble off with anything. I'm sure they'll sound fantastic and would love the opportunity to give them a demo. Hope to see these at CanJam :)
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 9:23 PM Post #36,035 of 70,082
Agreed. Personally I could live without ANC but hear-through, when implemented right is a super convenient.
Personally, I’ll have to think about it a lot before spending $350 on a set of TWS knowing its lifespan might be somewhat limited.
I would like to see some reviews before passing judgment as Noble makes excellent stuff.
It’s clearly working for them. They are on their third set and they told me that they have additional tws in development (LDAC specifically). They must be making money. Good for them. They may not be for everyone but the closer we can get tws to wired iem sound the better.
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 9:27 PM Post #36,036 of 70,082
It’s clearly working for them. They are on their third set and they told me that they have additional tws in development (LDAC specifically). They must be making money. Good for them. They may not be for everyone but the closer we can get tws to wired iem sound the better.
Yeah, good for them. I always appreciated their products and it’s nice to see they are embracing TWS. I just wish to see a similar setup down the line with the added features. Personally, I’ll be all over that.
 
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Aug 9, 2021 at 10:00 PM Post #36,037 of 70,082
What does everyone think of the Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless 2 earbuds from a sound quality/stability perspective? I've read they've fixed the battery drain issue from the original model, but are they good enough to be in your top 5 list?
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 10:02 PM Post #36,038 of 70,082
What does everyone think of the Sennheiser Momentum True Wireless 2 earbuds from a sound quality/stability perspective? I've read they've fixed the battery drain issue from the original model, but are they good enough to be in your top 5 list?

At this price point I'd say if you have a new(ish) Android phone, one that supports LDAC, then you should try the WF1000XM4.
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 10:03 PM Post #36,039 of 70,082
Yeah, good for them. I always appreciated their products and it’s nice to see they are embracing TWS. I just wish to see a similar setup down the line with the added features. Personally, I’ll be all over that.
I don’t think it’s realistic to assume a smallish iem company is going to compete with the big boys on the tech side. So at least Noble knows their audience and is making a product that will probably sell well to their fan base. Dunu mentioned that even though Qualcomm makes the chipset they had to do all the engineering themselves. I do think a bigger company like Audeze or Hifiman could probably offer the best of the best if they wanted to.
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 11:13 PM Post #36,041 of 70,082
Just got another FW update for the Melomania Touch. Second in about a week. Forgot to read the update notes. That was very quick. Not sure if it’s related but I notice an annoying sibilance edge up top. Fixable with the CA app EQ. Using the large OEM silicone tips.
Good call and this one sneaked up on me. Going to install it with the Pixel 3a instead of the 8T in hopes of a smoother experience. I did notice Melomania app updates on both phones.

Oh! If this is the app update I'm thinking of, it was just to fix Google log-in on the app. Not sure what the firmware update is for, to be honest.
 
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Aug 9, 2021 at 11:30 PM Post #36,042 of 70,082
Good call and this one sneaked up on me. Going to install it with the Pixel 3a instead of the 8T in hopes of a smoother experience. I did notice Melomania app updates on both phones.

Oh! If this is the app update I'm thinking of, it was just to fix Google log-in on the app. Not sure what the firmware update is for, to be honest.
The firmware notes actually have some of the same notes for 2.1.8 as were in 2.1.7 (earlier this week). Mentions some transparency mode enhancements that I don't recall in 2.1.7, but not sure I read those completely at the time. i.e. minimized background noise when in transparency mode. Transparency disabled when placed in the case. Improving volume control on TWS+ phones.
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 11:33 PM Post #36,043 of 70,082
The firmware notes actually have some of the same notes for 2.1.8 as were in 2.1.7 (earlier this week). Mentions some transparency mode enhancements that I don't recall in 2.1.7, but not sure I read those completely at the time. i.e. minimized background noise when in transparency mode. Transparency disabled when placed in the case. Improving volume control on TWS+ phones.
Yep. Was going to screengrab the release notes as well, but realized they were the same. Guess we'll see if there's a positive benefit on the TWS end when using these on the 8T.

Oh and mission accomplished on using the 3a to run the update instead. Went through flawlessly from beginning to end. Running 'em with some random Comply tips for the evening in celebration :)
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 11:35 PM Post #36,044 of 70,082
Yep. Was going to screengrab the release notes as well, but realized they were the same. Guess we'll see if there's a positive benefit on the TWS end when using these on the 8T.

Oh and mission accomplished on using the 3a to run the update instead. Went through flawlessly from beginning to end. Running 'em with some random Comply tips for the evening in celebration :)
The update(s) have been flaky for sure on my iphone 12 pro. Have not tried using the walkman yet. Maybe on the next round I'll give that a whirl.
 
Aug 9, 2021 at 11:56 PM Post #36,045 of 70,082
Something is brewing. Just saw these on their FB page.

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