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Going fully Wireless IEMs. Too soon? Or are we there yet?

Dec 31, 2020 at 11:32 PM Post #28,051 of 70,226
Canabuc said:
My feelings between Sony and technics mirror yours. Only difference is I could not get a good fit with the Sony. None of stock tips worked for me they were fine if I sit still or walk but if I lean forward I feel them falling out of my ears. Can't imagine exercising with them which is too bad because they are loud and vibrant to great for workouts music. I also hated that the touch controls make you choose between 2 of 3 functions when they could have allowed all 3.

Which tips you using in the Sony?
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If you still have the Sony's, get yourself Comply Foam Tips. From memory, T-500 fit them. They'll give you the seal, much improved comfort & obviously sound quality..
 
Dec 31, 2020 at 11:55 PM Post #28,052 of 70,226
Knightsfan11 said:
If you still have the Sony's, get yourself Comply Foam Tips. From memory, T-500 fit them. They'll give you the seal, much improved comfort & obviously sound quality..
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I had some comply tips at home that fit on the Sony but didn't improve the for for me. The best tips ironically were from my L2P. They were most comfortable and gave best deal bit still felt a bit lose when bending over
 
Jan 1, 2021 at 5:32 AM Post #28,053 of 70,226
Turns out the Earfun Free Pro large eartips are about the same size as the 1More ANC's medium-large (default) eartips) but fit much better. However, I'm still hearing the imbalance with the left side having more treble. I think it may also be depending on driver flex/pressure because sometimes the left just sounds completely devoid of treble and other times it sounds fine if I push them against my ears for a few seconds. With the Earfun Free Pro and over-ear headphones I notice a very slight treble imbalance so it might be partly my hearing, but still wonder if I got a dud. If so it would be the third QCC device I've used that has this issue. Only my friend's Sabbat E12 Ultra seemed fine. When I change the volume I can also hear the volume pan left and right before settling more on one side. Just curious what devices people are using their QCC TWS with and if they encounter any similar issues.

I am rather disappointed by the battery life of the 1More ANC, not so much the buds themselves but the case. It only seems to last about 12 hours or 2 days of usage, not unlike my SoundLiberty 94. The case is also very inconsistent as it sometimes fails to power on the buds when I take them out. Fortunately, the buds do turn off by themselves when they detect they aren't being worn (as long as you're not playing music afterwards, or using an audio-editing app like FL Studio which will keep them on longer). When the case is depleted, however, you must power them on manually.

rhsauer said:
I'm also really excited about these. On the Anker forum on Reddit a moderator suggests these are the Liberty 2 Pro's with ANC. I suppose they could have the L2P's Coaxial Acoustic Architecture, but in a different form factor (better for phone calls) and with ANC -- that would work for me. Soundcore has a good record of punching above their weight (price-wise). They're spending a lot building up excitement for these. The big reveal is January 12 at noon eastern time.
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I just hope they address the hiss issue, not just quiet things down as some L2P users have stated. Not keen on the stems either and kinda disappointed by the final name, I thought it was gonna be called Liberty Escape or something.

Looks like they're offering 50$ off if you already have an Anker product, but not sure if this offer will be worldwide or only in the US...
 
Jan 1, 2021 at 10:11 AM Post #28,055 of 70,226
Also a review from Tech Advisor:

https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/review/cambridge-audio-melomania-touch-3799893/

There is indeed a noticeable difference between the two different audio modes.

"There is a noticeable drop in audio quality when you swap to low power, of course, which is why I’d leave it on high performance (40 hours is plenty for me) unless you know you’re going to need the battery life.
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Jan 1, 2021 at 12:28 PM Post #28,057 of 70,226
Spent some more time with the Technics. If you listen to vocalists and acoustic music they are fantastic. However they are not great otherwise to my ears. First off the volume max is too low. I have to push volume 10 louder to get equal volume to my other buds. Bass is lacking. I can tell it gets low but there is not enough. EQ even on max bass doesn't help enough and so other genres seem a bit thin. I have also had issues getting the buds in and out of the case. And while in the case sometimes have to fiddle to get the charging light on as they don't always seat perfectly.
Had to reset them because of songs cutting it intermittently every 2 minutes. It was a nightmare to repair them. At least that got fixed. I think these are a good pair for a first attempt but like the 1more they aren't loud enough and can't be tuned to improve the sound.

That being said with equalizer set with bass at +6 then +3 for midbass and a bit of small bump in treble and ANC on it adds a bit more punch.

@dweaver Wonder if you listen with ANC in even in quiet environment as that seems to boost the bass. Feel they should update firmware to allow more Bass if not as stock sound the. At least allow the EQ to add more or the bass boost preset which makes little difference right now.

I think I will revisit the Sony before they go back and compare to the 85t when they arrive. I'm almost tempted to bite the bullet and get the MTW2 but I see Amazon has raised the price back up to 400$ Canadian so not worth it.

Anyone have recommendations for great sounding TWS with ANC and good fit you can exercise with?
 
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Jan 1, 2021 at 4:24 PM Post #28,061 of 70,226
Canabuc said:
Spent some more time with the Technics. If you listen to vocalists and acoustic music they are fantastic. However they are not great otherwise to my ears. First off the volume max is too low. I have to push volume 10 louder to get equal volume to my other buds. Bass is lacking. I can tell it gets low but there is not enough. EQ even on max bass doesn't help enough and so other genres seem a bit thin. I have also had issues getting the buds in and out of the case. And while in the case sometimes have to fiddle to get the charging light on as they don't always seat perfectly.
Had to reset them because of songs cutting it intermittently every 2 minutes. It was a nightmare to repair them. At least that got fixed. I think these are a good pair for a first attempt but like the 1more they aren't loud enough and can't be tuned to improve the sound.

That being said with equalizer set with bass at +6 then +3 for midbass and a bit of small bump in treble and ANC on it adds a bit more punch.

@dweaver Wonder if you listen with ANC in even in quiet environment as that seems to boost the bass. Feel they should update firmware to allow more Bass if not as stock sound the. At least allow the EQ to add more or the bass boost preset which makes little difference right now.

I think I will revisit the Sony before they go back and compare to the 85t when they arrive. I'm almost tempted to bite the bullet and get the MTW2 but I see Amazon has raised the price back up to 400$ Canadian so not worth it.

Anyone have recommendations for great sounding TWS with ANC and good fit you can exercise with?
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I use all 3 modes but do use the ANC mode the most. I also am a low volume listener as I rarely go past 1/3 volume and just slightly past 1/2 volume is the loudest I have ever gone with the AZ70.

I have a feeling these just won't work for you. I wonder if those Cambridge Melomania Touch might be the ones for you? No ANC but they do have ambient mode and the early reviews sound promising. I am also curious if the Status Audio Between Pro might work again no ANC but does have ambient mode. But this one has no app.
 
Jan 1, 2021 at 4:39 PM Post #28,062 of 70,226
dweaver said:
I use all 3 modes but do use the ANC mode the most. I also am a low volume listener as I rarely go past 1/3 volume and just slightly past 1/2 volume is the loudest I have ever gone with the AZ70.

I have a feeling these just won't work for you. I wonder if those Cambridge Melomania Touch might be the ones for you? No ANC but they do have ambient mode and the early reviews sound promising. I am also curious if the Status Audio Between Pro might work again no ANC but does have ambient mode. But this one has no app.
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I want to have ANC or I might as well stock with my Liberty 2pro.
The bass is definitely improved with ANC which I was not using initially in my testing. Think I would use it on at all times and set the hear through to alternate from ambient to ANC and remove the of position altogether.

I am conflicted because I really love the mids and highs. They are boyfriend better and wider than the Jabra. The bass is improving with ANC on. Next thing to try when I get back to town is my comply tips.
 
Jan 1, 2021 at 4:50 PM Post #28,063 of 70,226
Ya give comply a try they do help the bass
 
Jan 1, 2021 at 8:04 PM Post #28,064 of 70,226
C_Lindbergh said:
Also a review from Tech Advisor:

https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/review/cambridge-audio-melomania-touch-3799893/

There is indeed a noticeable difference between the two different audio modes.

"There is a noticeable drop in audio quality when you swap to low power, of course, which is why I’d leave it on high performance (40 hours is plenty for me) unless you know you’re going to need the battery life.
"
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Really wish they had gone for ANC. It's hard to give it up once you have it.
 
Jan 1, 2021 at 8:47 PM Post #28,065 of 70,226
Hmm, melomania Touch is now on Amazon, but shows March delivery if you want it directly from Amazon using Amazon prime (Prime free delivery from Amazon warehouse shows March 11 delivery date). That's crazy. AmazonSmile: Cambridge Audio Melomania Touch Earbuds, True Wireless Bluetooth 5.0, Hi-Fi Sound, in-Ear Stereo Ear Buds for iPhone and for Android (White): Home Audio & Theater

I guess if you want it in January, you have to order from Cambridge Audio directly or you might be waiting until March.
 
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