jessica_fae
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I've been reading all the AKG K601/K701 threads for quite awhile trying to decide if this might be a good addition to my collection or not, so I've decided to post a little review of what I have and what I'm looking for.
Right now I have a Gilmore Lite/HD580 in the living room and a Stax Lambda/SRM1:mk2pp in the bedroom both feed with high quality CD sources. I've owned the Stax for 20+ years now and I truly love them. I've been keen to try out either the AKG K601 or K701 though. I mainly listen to chamber music, 'world' fusion music (Afrocelt soundsystem, Vas, Enigma, DeadCanDance, Delerium, Loreena McKennitt...), with some dance/trance thrown in (BT, WayOutWest, Orbital, Radio1 essential mix). My goal is to have a high quality alternative to my main system (Acoustat 1+1 electrostatics driven by GoldenTube SE40 / Balanced Audio VK20 / CAL Sigma tube DAC) for late night listening.
So I'll start with my impressions of the differences between my rigs:
Gilmore Lite/HD580 verses Stax Lambda/SRM1
The Gilmore is a recent addition and has dramatically improved the quality of the HD580s. Before the Gilmore the HD580s had a nice warm sound, very relaxing headphone to listen to, good for background listening, but not terribly engaging or detailed. They were definitely the best sounding headphone in my dynamic arsenal (HD580, HD280pro, Grado SR60, Koss KSC35, KSC75, Entymotics ER6i) but were not even close to the sound I get from my Stax or my Acoustats.
With the addition of the Gilmore Lite the HD580s really did move up a big notch. Everything tightened up a lot. Instruments and voices 'hung' in space much better. I can hear skin tones on hand drums where before it was more of a 'thump'. Cellos have more body and resonance and are more real. Flutes, oboes, shawms and other soprano woodwind instruments were much more expressive and more 3D. I can feel more emotion coming from performances. But, as much as the HD580s improved they are still short. In contrast to my other setups, they still feel a bit unrefined and never quite seem to break the reality that I'm listening to recorded music on headphones. I do enjoy them and there is no doubt the Gilmore/HD580 pairing is excellent and produces beautiful music.
In contrast the Stax/SRM1:mk2pp are even more dimensional and expressive. With the lights out and relaxed, the soundscape transforms into a fully 3D experience of individual performers playing as an ensemble. I can enjoy the whole performance, or I can focus my attention on one particular player and experience the subtlety of their performance. I can hear finger technique on hand drum surfaces, I can hear bow technique on violin solos, I can feel the emotion of an oboe player placed in the back of the performance. I'm no longer sitting in my room listening to headphones, but I'm sitting in the middle of the performance surrounded by musicians filled with energy and emotion.
What the Stax does lack though is 'grab'. They never struck me as a very dynamic or bouncy headphone. They don't do radio pop/rock well at all (despite doing techo/trance really well - go figure). Playing them louder to try to compensate only succeeds in giving me a headache. The stax are best played at moderate volumes and allowing my ears to approach them rather than playing the Stax loud trying to meet my expectations. Also if I casually put on the stax and not devote my attention to the performance they sometimes seem flat and boring. It is the most odd phenomenon. They are the definition of refinement. I relate it to a £50 bottle of wine. If you approach it wrong you miss the subtlety and wonder what idiot would pay that much when different £5 bottles taste really good and there is plenty of variety to keep one satisfied. If I approach the Stax without the right attitude they seem flat, boring, and lacking impact. But, if I approach them with respect and meet them in the middle, they open up and show me a world in a grain of sand. I have tried to duplicate this experience with the HD580s and it has never really happened. I think the worst flaw of the Stax is that they don't sit on the head solidly. It's very hard to lay back on a couch to listen because they tend to slide off the back of my head. I need to listen to them sitting rather upright, but this usually helps with me to approach them with respect. They seem best experienced in the dark sitting on the floor.
In summary if I want the best experience and I'm up to working a little, the Stax always deliver and help to transform reality. If I'm feeling a bit lazy and maybe wanting to do something else while I listen, the Gilmore/HD580 delivers beautiful music and puts a smile on my face.
So what to do next? Do I just live with what I have or do I go in search of the holy grail one more time? Would an AKG K601 or K701 be an option or should I just get a better Stax? Would a more modern Stax SR404 be an improvement on my 20 year old Lambdas and maybe make the Stax experience a little less work? Or should I bite the bullet and save up to get some Stax Omega SR007s?
Or maybe I should just buy a K601 for the experience of what it is, expand my pallet and realize that the Holy Grail is a journey and not a destination.
Jessica
Right now I have a Gilmore Lite/HD580 in the living room and a Stax Lambda/SRM1:mk2pp in the bedroom both feed with high quality CD sources. I've owned the Stax for 20+ years now and I truly love them. I've been keen to try out either the AKG K601 or K701 though. I mainly listen to chamber music, 'world' fusion music (Afrocelt soundsystem, Vas, Enigma, DeadCanDance, Delerium, Loreena McKennitt...), with some dance/trance thrown in (BT, WayOutWest, Orbital, Radio1 essential mix). My goal is to have a high quality alternative to my main system (Acoustat 1+1 electrostatics driven by GoldenTube SE40 / Balanced Audio VK20 / CAL Sigma tube DAC) for late night listening.
So I'll start with my impressions of the differences between my rigs:
Gilmore Lite/HD580 verses Stax Lambda/SRM1
The Gilmore is a recent addition and has dramatically improved the quality of the HD580s. Before the Gilmore the HD580s had a nice warm sound, very relaxing headphone to listen to, good for background listening, but not terribly engaging or detailed. They were definitely the best sounding headphone in my dynamic arsenal (HD580, HD280pro, Grado SR60, Koss KSC35, KSC75, Entymotics ER6i) but were not even close to the sound I get from my Stax or my Acoustats.
With the addition of the Gilmore Lite the HD580s really did move up a big notch. Everything tightened up a lot. Instruments and voices 'hung' in space much better. I can hear skin tones on hand drums where before it was more of a 'thump'. Cellos have more body and resonance and are more real. Flutes, oboes, shawms and other soprano woodwind instruments were much more expressive and more 3D. I can feel more emotion coming from performances. But, as much as the HD580s improved they are still short. In contrast to my other setups, they still feel a bit unrefined and never quite seem to break the reality that I'm listening to recorded music on headphones. I do enjoy them and there is no doubt the Gilmore/HD580 pairing is excellent and produces beautiful music.
In contrast the Stax/SRM1:mk2pp are even more dimensional and expressive. With the lights out and relaxed, the soundscape transforms into a fully 3D experience of individual performers playing as an ensemble. I can enjoy the whole performance, or I can focus my attention on one particular player and experience the subtlety of their performance. I can hear finger technique on hand drum surfaces, I can hear bow technique on violin solos, I can feel the emotion of an oboe player placed in the back of the performance. I'm no longer sitting in my room listening to headphones, but I'm sitting in the middle of the performance surrounded by musicians filled with energy and emotion.
What the Stax does lack though is 'grab'. They never struck me as a very dynamic or bouncy headphone. They don't do radio pop/rock well at all (despite doing techo/trance really well - go figure). Playing them louder to try to compensate only succeeds in giving me a headache. The stax are best played at moderate volumes and allowing my ears to approach them rather than playing the Stax loud trying to meet my expectations. Also if I casually put on the stax and not devote my attention to the performance they sometimes seem flat and boring. It is the most odd phenomenon. They are the definition of refinement. I relate it to a £50 bottle of wine. If you approach it wrong you miss the subtlety and wonder what idiot would pay that much when different £5 bottles taste really good and there is plenty of variety to keep one satisfied. If I approach the Stax without the right attitude they seem flat, boring, and lacking impact. But, if I approach them with respect and meet them in the middle, they open up and show me a world in a grain of sand. I have tried to duplicate this experience with the HD580s and it has never really happened. I think the worst flaw of the Stax is that they don't sit on the head solidly. It's very hard to lay back on a couch to listen because they tend to slide off the back of my head. I need to listen to them sitting rather upright, but this usually helps with me to approach them with respect. They seem best experienced in the dark sitting on the floor.
In summary if I want the best experience and I'm up to working a little, the Stax always deliver and help to transform reality. If I'm feeling a bit lazy and maybe wanting to do something else while I listen, the Gilmore/HD580 delivers beautiful music and puts a smile on my face.
So what to do next? Do I just live with what I have or do I go in search of the holy grail one more time? Would an AKG K601 or K701 be an option or should I just get a better Stax? Would a more modern Stax SR404 be an improvement on my 20 year old Lambdas and maybe make the Stax experience a little less work? Or should I bite the bullet and save up to get some Stax Omega SR007s?
Or maybe I should just buy a K601 for the experience of what it is, expand my pallet and realize that the Holy Grail is a journey and not a destination.
Jessica