grawk
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What happened to the DT770 being the best headphone ever?
Originally Posted by moonboy403 /img/forum/go_quote.gif Did you A/B your D5000 against your HD280 or did you compare them based on memory? |
Originally Posted by grawk /img/forum/go_quote.gif What happened to the DT770 being the best headphone ever? |
Originally Posted by Epicfailman /img/forum/go_quote.gif Yeah, your source/amp ould be the weak link in the chain there, and not the headphones. You mentioned owning some AKGs, but you never said what model. Depending on which one, they can be quite hard to drive so the wrong amp wouldn't give the drivers enough juice to stretch their legs. If my memory is correct, D5000s are not forgiving headphones, so poor quality recordings could really ruin your opinion of it. Also, when dealing with closed headphones, fit can change everything as can be seen by the ATH-W5000s. The Denons are not known for fit issues, but I don't doubt it can happen. Or like has been states before, it really could be that you just prefer the Senn's sound signature. I mean, I like my AD700s better than my friends edition 9s, even though I can tell his is better in every aspect of replicating sound...the edition 9s clamp too much and the soundstage is just not there like it is in the Audio Technicas. So while the D5000s are better than the HD280s, you just may have some issues with their sound. |
Originally Posted by intoart /img/forum/go_quote.gif I have always used an audiophile CD player (first Cambridge 340C, now Tascam CD-160 MK II) as a source, so that was definitely never a weak link. |
Originally Posted by subtle /img/forum/go_quote.gif The only problem that I see is that you consider the D5000s very expensive. They are in the "high end" of headphones to those used to using earbuds, but after owning the D7000s for a few weeks I would only consider them to be on the high end of the mid-fi scale in the headphone world. There is such a thing as "high end" headphone but you're going to have to spend four figures to be truly blown away. The good thing though is that if you can afford to be without the money in order to experience one, you really stand very little to no risk of losing any of your initial investment. The truly "high end" of headphones rarely ever lose value and tend to actually appreciate over time. In most cases you could look at it as being paid to sample the high end. That's how it has worked for me with many of the ones I have owned over the past few years. Knowing your preferences for solid bass reproduction I would suggest seeking out a Audio Technica L3000 or a Grado PS-1. If you can't find one of those available, or simply can't afford one at this time, try making it to a local meet some time where the truly high end is represented and see just what you're missing. I think you'll be surprised when you hear for yourself that what most people refer to as the last "5-10%" really sounds more like the last 30-40%. |
Originally Posted by intoart /img/forum/go_quote.gif I have tried quite a few headphones at a wide range of prices, including the very expensive D5000s. I am back to listening to my $80 HD280s instead. I used to believe that "you get what you pay for", but I no longer think that that is true for headphones. The AKGs were 4X as much as the Sennheisers, the Denons were 6X as much, and neither seemed much better, let alone mind-blowingly better. Is there such a thing as "high end" headphones, or is that just a myth? What would I have to pay for something enough better that I would be unwilling to go back to the HD280s? |
Originally Posted by kool bubba ice /img/forum/go_quote.gif Of course theres better, but preference overrides all.. If you really want to get down to it, a person can claim a 70.00 dynamic has more clarity then a high end Stax, & honestly believe it. It's all about perception. If you really get down to it. |