Focal Utopia General Discussion
Dec 16, 2016 at 8:20 PM Post #1,549 of 20,644
I was comparing Head-Fi accounts of failure... And using hyperbole.  
Oh ok, I thought you wanted to know the real data. 47 out of 1200 delivered world wide and most of that 47, 24 of which were the first week of the launch
 
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Dec 16, 2016 at 8:35 PM Post #1,550 of 20,644
Oh ok, I thought you wanted to know the real data. 47 out of 1200 delivered world wide and most of that 47, 24 of which were the first week of the launch


Hmm, that's a 4% failure rate which is disconcertingly high for a premium hand assembled headphone. Any idea what lead to the failures?
 
Dec 16, 2016 at 9:32 PM Post #1,551 of 20,644
Oh ok, I thought you wanted to know the real data. 47 out of 1200 delivered world wide and most of that 47, 24 of which were the first week of the launch

 
If I wanted real data, I wouldn't use Head-Fi as a source 
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But in all seriousness if that's the case, that seems very high indeed.
 
Dec 16, 2016 at 9:35 PM Post #1,552 of 20,644
Hmm, that's a 4% failure rate which is disconcertingly high for a premium hand assembled headphone. Any idea what lead to the failures?
Good math! :thumbsup_tone1: So that was while they launched mostly. I'm now aware of 4 since August. So manufacturing defects are significantly reduced since then. I'd calculate its under 1% now. I understand the original solder method had to be corrected and that is what caused the original defects. These 4 new events I don't have input on since I didn't interface on them.
 
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Dec 16, 2016 at 9:40 PM Post #1,553 of 20,644
Good to know Focal tracked down the issue and corrected it. I'm hoping to get many years of use out my Utopias to justify the cost - I think they sound wonderful.
 
Dec 16, 2016 at 9:54 PM Post #1,554 of 20,644
Good to know Focal tracked down the issue and corrected it. I'm hoping to get many years of use out my Utopias to justify the cost - I think they sound wonderful.
Great news! Have a great Ear Holiday!!
 
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Dec 17, 2016 at 3:43 AM Post #1,555 of 20,644
They were probably early production issues most likely. There were big delays which I suppose has something to do with it.
 
Dec 17, 2016 at 7:35 AM Post #1,557 of 20,644
It's been a week since I got my 2nd pair and I have least 100 hours burn in now. They sound exactly like my pair that eventually failed. Very good sound, but I think the LCD 4 does slightly better concerning soundstage. Clarity is about even. the Utopia feels a lot lighter.

Comparing the Utopia to the AKG K872, Which is a closed design, it has much smoother treble, I mean MUCH less aggressive while at the same time having more clarity, which is very impressive. It also has more bass while at the same time being tighter and better defined.

Overall, I can't think of a single headphone I've ever owned or even heard that I can say is flat out "better" than the Utopia, however, when I want the ultimate musical enjoyment I still find myself reaching for the Nighthawk. That is a personal sound signature preference though and although I've tested with many friends that agree with me, I think most audiophiles would have the opposite opinion.
 
Dec 17, 2016 at 11:37 PM Post #1,559 of 20,644
It's been a week since I got my 2nd pair and I have least 100 hours burn in now. They sound exactly like my pair that eventually failed. Very good sound, but I think the LCD 4 does slightly better concerning soundstage. Clarity is about even. the Utopia feels a lot lighter.

Comparing the Utopia to the AKG K872, Which is a closed design, it has much smoother treble, I mean MUCH less aggressive while at the same time having more clarity, which is very impressive. It also has more bass while at the same time being tighter and better defined.

Overall, I can't think of a single headphone I've ever owned or even heard that I can say is flat out "better" than the Utopia, however, when I want the ultimate musical enjoyment I still find myself reaching for the Nighthawk. That is a personal sound signature preference though and although I've tested with many friends that agree with me, I think most audiophiles would have the opposite opinion.


What amp do u find best fit for the Utopia? I found that tube amp seems to have better synergy with Utopia compares to the GSX mk2
 

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