Focal Utopia General Discussion
May 24, 2023 at 8:37 AM Post #19,351 of 20,708
I did not consider buying Utopia with 5000€ price but this week I got a deal that I could not resist anymore. 2022 model that has been sitting in glass cabinet. No wear marks, full warranty etc. 2490€

I will get them on friday :sunglasses:
What the hell
 
May 24, 2023 at 8:57 AM Post #19,352 of 20,708
What the hell
Dealer markup on Focal headphones up to 50%. These are likely open box and the dealer can still make profit. This is why it’s important to support your local hifi shops.
 
May 24, 2023 at 1:52 PM Post #19,356 of 20,708
Utopia will perform "fine" out of virtually any source with a reasonable amount of power - it is not hard to drive. But Utopia scales incredibly well, and incredibly obviously, with higher quality and/or more powerful amps. Sort of like how you can eat a microwaved chicken finger and it's "fine", but a chicken finger that is properly deep fried and dipped in honey mustard sauce is on the "next level". That's sort of how Utopia works. :wink:

Am at 100-105 volume on WM1ZM2, SE but recon it would sound much better with more power even though the 4.4
 
May 25, 2023 at 1:24 AM Post #19,357 of 20,708
In case there are Utopia 2022 owners active here, who want to try a Harman based profile.
My preset. Based on Oratorys.

Screenshot_20230524_153059_Neutron_Player.jpg
Screenshot_20230524_153112_Neutron_Player.jpg
Screenshot_20230514_061730_Neutron_Player-1.jpg


Adjust band:

2 for bass
3 for punch
5 for mids / shoutiness
6 for treble
11 for sibilance / detail

Here a small explanation, which change
i made to Hamann:

Band 2 - Bass shelf -2.5dB
(reduction bass total)

Band 3 - Bass peak + 1.5dB at 150Hz
(Increase in PHYSICALLY perceptible slam.
Instructed by Dan Clark. Video from 15:00 min.)

Band 4 - 210Hz peak +0.5dB
(Add some warmth)

Band 5 - 1270hz Peak -2dB
(Reduction of shoutiness. Makes the overall sound warmer and more pleasant).

Band 6 - high shelf 1800Hz -0.5dB
(Subtle reduction of the overall high)

Band 11 - 9500hz peak -1db
(Subtle reduction of silbilance)

Band 12 - 13000Hz high shelf -0.5dB
(Subtle reduction of airness)

Added hpf @ 19hz, Q 0.71, to protect driver from very low frequencys (and minimize mechanical clipping).
This also makes the whole sound more precise.

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May 25, 2023 at 1:26 AM Post #19,358 of 20,708
In case there are Utopia 2022 owners active here, who want to try a Harman based profile.
My preset. Based on Oratorys.

Screenshot_20230524_153059_Neutron_Player.jpgScreenshot_20230524_153112_Neutron_Player.jpgScreenshot_20230514_061730_Neutron_Player-1.jpg

Adjust band:

2 for bass
3 for punch
5 for mids / shoutiness
6 for treble
11 for sibilance / detail

Here a small explanation, which change
i made to Hamann:

Band 1 - Bass shelf -2.5dB
(reduction bass total)

Band 2 - Bass peak + 1.5dB at 150Hz
(Increase in PHYSICALLY perceptible slam.
Instructed by Dan Clark. Video from 15:00 min.)

Band 3 - 210Hz peak +0.5dB
(Add some warmth)

Band 4 - 1270hz Peak -2dB
(Reduction of shoutiness. Makes the overall sound warmer and more pleasant).

Band 5 - high shelf 1800Hz -0.5dB
(Subtle reduction of the overall high)

Band 10 - 9500hz peak -1db
(Subtle reduction of silbilance)

Band 11 - 13000Hz high shelf -0.5dB
(Subtle reduction of airness)

Can confirm.. this is great work/eq!
 
May 25, 2023 at 1:47 AM Post #19,359 of 20,708
Jus received my Utopia 2022 today, already sound great OOTB, speed and resolution are spectacular. Perhaps a bit more / looser bass than I expected and less treble air, but I know some burn-in (driver +/- brain) needed. What have others found is the needed burn in time for these to hit their true stride, and what changes might I expect? Thanks!
 
May 25, 2023 at 2:00 AM Post #19,360 of 20,708
My day, started with the following track.



So incredibly good on the Utopia 2022...

(I am so grateful, to have the opportunity,
to experience music on these headphones
🙏🙏🙏)
 
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May 25, 2023 at 4:31 AM Post #19,361 of 20,708
Anyone torn between WM1ZM2 and Uniti Atom HE?

I was unimpressed by Atom HE with Utopia. It is warmer sounding source and my modest Qutest -> Luxman P1u bested it. If you don't mind two boxes instead of one you can get better bang for $ than what Atom offers. For all in one solutions your options shrink, but I was still not sold on Atom. Utopia is not hard to drive and if you don't have a DAP I would go that route for better portability. Atom did not feel as obvious upgrade to my old Shanling M6 Pro DAP as my desktop setup
 
May 25, 2023 at 6:13 AM Post #19,362 of 20,708
In case there are Utopia 2022 owners active here, who want to try a Harman based profile.
My preset. Based on Oratorys.

Screenshot_20230524_153059_Neutron_Player.jpgScreenshot_20230524_153112_Neutron_Player.jpgScreenshot_20230514_061730_Neutron_Player-1.jpg

Adjust band:

2 for bass
3 for punch
5 for mids / shoutiness
6 for treble
11 for sibilance / detail

Here a small explanation, which change
i made to Hamann:

Band 1 - Bass shelf -2.5dB
(reduction bass total)

Band 2 - Bass peak + 1.5dB at 150Hz
(Increase in PHYSICALLY perceptible slam.
Instructed by Dan Clark. Video from 15:00 min.)

Band 3 - 210Hz peak +0.5dB
(Add some warmth)

Band 4 - 1270hz Peak -2dB
(Reduction of shoutiness. Makes the overall sound warmer and more pleasant).

Band 5 - high shelf 1800Hz -0.5dB
(Subtle reduction of the overall high)

Band 11 - 9500hz peak -1db
(Subtle reduction of silbilance)

Band 12 - 13000Hz high shelf -0.5dB
(Subtle reduction of airness)

20230525_073322.gif
Is this set with ROON?
How much should headroom adjustment(db) be set? -3db?
 
May 25, 2023 at 6:46 AM Post #19,363 of 20,708
You mean the preamp?
You have to orient yourself to the highest peak.
In this case at least -4dB

Screenshot_20230525_073028_Neutron Player.jpg



If you increase band 2 by for example +6dB,
the preamp must be set to -6dB

Screenshot_20230525_124907_Neutron Player.jpg
 
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May 25, 2023 at 7:09 AM Post #19,364 of 20,708
You mean the preamp?
You have to orient yourself to the highest peak.
In this case at least -4dB

Screenshot_20230525_073028_Neutron Player.jpg


If you increase band 2 by for example +6dB,
the preamp must be set to -6dB

Screenshot_20230525_124907_Neutron Player.jpg
I don’t know if you are referring to the same thing, but what I think is the setting of the picture below
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May 25, 2023 at 7:16 AM Post #19,365 of 20,708
Yes, it is 👍🏼
 

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