Well I tried some dub step and there was hardly any thump or rumble. Everything else sounded great. I wasn't expecting ATH M50X lvl bass but at least GR07 BE. Reading reviews and listening to vids on these headphones has me coming to the conclusion what I heard is what it is. If people say its only there when it should be and that means what I experienced... I want nothing to do with "neutral".
I watched mikes review and if those focal speakers sound this lifeless with dub step, I can't imagine I'd like them either. Looking at the Inner Fidelity graph, which I can't fully read, I imagined more bass.
I'll try to get another audition but without actually hearing the artists creation in a studio with reference speakers, I'd never know the truth. Didn't like the low end.