It turns out that my adapter cables were the problem. I took them off and there were no issues. I should look into getting a modular removable cable.
FiiO's Crown Jewel of Portable Music Player M11 Plus LTD Is Officially Released!
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It turns out that my adapter cables were the problem. I took them off and there were no issues. I should look into getting a modular removable cable.
The M11 Plus may have a volume touch panel bug problem. It doesn't always respond to double taps.
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The M11+ has a ‘lot of’ “niggly things” a firmware (or three) may be required to sort out.
Fairly high up on my ‘pressing issues list’ is the “DSD conversion” output- seems to do ‘on the fly’ DSD CONVERSION out over the analogues 3.5mm/4.4mm, either amplified or ‘line out’ (makes sense); AND it will pass out via the COAX digital output. (all good, so far)
DSD conversion feature DOES NOT OUTPUT via the USB output.
This is fairly easy to test, as DSD tracks will output (as DSD) via the USB output, but DSD Conversion passes as PCM... (and not necessarily as DSD being ‘handled’ as PCM).
The only reason i raise this point is that no doubt the M15/M17 share this Operating System build, with tweaks as necessary (if any), and this might catch out some users.... (many more users ultimately to be found in the M15/M17 product branches if only due to the M11(+) being a ‘Limited’ run)
On a massive plus note; the DSD conversion is (really) quite good.
On the ‘den setup’ (home hifi) it is easy to tell apart the two playbacks (straight vs ‘converted to DSD’). Ten for ten I chose the DSD version due to (better) nuanced playback and ‘smooth’ air spaces; it sounded the more natural /authentic. Across four music genres; easily Blind A/B’d.
Usually DSD conversion equals me switching back and forth A LOT and the differences, typically subtle, get discerned over time; but with the FiiO it was evident, when using the included AKM4497s, the improvement the DSD conversion process brought. (all test tracks being redbook 16bit 44khz)
One of the main reasons I bought the M11+ was to be a transport, and knowing the DSD convert (on the fly) was a feature FiiO offered (and that it might make the player run warm), I even bought the ‘cooling case’ specifically for this purpose.
DSD convert does run the battery down faster, about equal to having an iFi Purifier on the USB cable (requires a little power).. It isn’t a heavy hitter on the battery like I was afraid it would be (the new DSD convert code on top of the newer ‘660’ processor is a dream come true).
It is a good enough feature that I use the player, like right now, feeding ‘line out’ from the balanced 4.4mm into the home hifi rig...
I’d put the DAC capability of the player, a step above home DACs from the last half decade, and right up their with some of the best.. (down two steps from a Denafrips, down a half step from a Chord Hugo/iFi Diablo etc)
I never expected the M11+ to ‘cut it’ so well..
A large part of the M11s success is it being ‘SUCH A BRILLIANT’ transport; and I am not sure how FiiO have engineered it; but the unit exhibits a low bass note improvement so solid that the home subs needed downscaling, and the extra bass is definitely in the digital read; it gets passed onto all down stream sources irrelevant the transport method (bluetooth/USB/COAX/line out etc). Vastly improves a few genres and helps perfect a range of recordings.
....with DSD (conversion) it is (sometimes)‘even better’..
<smiles>
Fairly high up on my ‘pressing issues list’ is the “DSD conversion” output- seems to do ‘on the fly’ DSD CONVERSION out over the analogues 3.5mm/4.4mm, either amplified or ‘line out’ (makes sense); AND it will pass out via the COAX digital output. (all good, so far)
DSD conversion feature DOES NOT OUTPUT via the USB output.
This is fairly easy to test, as DSD tracks will output (as DSD) via the USB output, but DSD Conversion passes as PCM... (and not necessarily as DSD being ‘handled’ as PCM).
The only reason i raise this point is that no doubt the M15/M17 share this Operating System build, with tweaks as necessary (if any), and this might catch out some users.... (many more users ultimately to be found in the M15/M17 product branches if only due to the M11(+) being a ‘Limited’ run)
On a massive plus note; the DSD conversion is (really) quite good.
On the ‘den setup’ (home hifi) it is easy to tell apart the two playbacks (straight vs ‘converted to DSD’). Ten for ten I chose the DSD version due to (better) nuanced playback and ‘smooth’ air spaces; it sounded the more natural /authentic. Across four music genres; easily Blind A/B’d.
Usually DSD conversion equals me switching back and forth A LOT and the differences, typically subtle, get discerned over time; but with the FiiO it was evident, when using the included AKM4497s, the improvement the DSD conversion process brought. (all test tracks being redbook 16bit 44khz)
One of the main reasons I bought the M11+ was to be a transport, and knowing the DSD convert (on the fly) was a feature FiiO offered (and that it might make the player run warm), I even bought the ‘cooling case’ specifically for this purpose.
DSD convert does run the battery down faster, about equal to having an iFi Purifier on the USB cable (requires a little power).. It isn’t a heavy hitter on the battery like I was afraid it would be (the new DSD convert code on top of the newer ‘660’ processor is a dream come true).
It is a good enough feature that I use the player, like right now, feeding ‘line out’ from the balanced 4.4mm into the home hifi rig...
I’d put the DAC capability of the player, a step above home DACs from the last half decade, and right up their with some of the best.. (down two steps from a Denafrips, down a half step from a Chord Hugo/iFi Diablo etc)
I never expected the M11+ to ‘cut it’ so well..
A large part of the M11s success is it being ‘SUCH A BRILLIANT’ transport; and I am not sure how FiiO have engineered it; but the unit exhibits a low bass note improvement so solid that the home subs needed downscaling, and the extra bass is definitely in the digital read; it gets passed onto all down stream sources irrelevant the transport method (bluetooth/USB/COAX/line out etc). Vastly improves a few genres and helps perfect a range of recordings.
....with DSD (conversion) it is (sometimes)‘even better’..
<smiles>
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Odd. Mine always does - sometimes annoyingly so (hah!). I wonder what the difference is.
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If Nintendo DS taught me anything, when ‘helping the kids’ (sure, ‘kids’)..
The resistive screen would go bonkers if so much as an eyelash was edging the screen.
Capacitive digitisers have different methods to cope with multiple inputs.
Whilst I would guess it is in the polling speed of the interpreter hardware, sometimes it is something so simple as a stray bit of ‘leather fluff’ that might be touching an edge.
of course a firmware update might sort out issues for any/all dealing with...
I myself wouldn’t let a digitized panel be engaged whilst using an audio transport.
But then I come from the days of expensive CD transports with ‘display off’ capability because the electrical draw of an 8 on the electro luminescent displey was different to a 1 (or even a 9). Such trivial power fluctuations actually effected a transport to being ‘less than’ its best output, so many zealots, like myself operate with a ‘turn EVERYTHING off‘ mentality.
Turning around twenty to thirty settings OFF in my android phone vastly improved its transport quality; so I ordered a new DAP (the M11+) to enjoy dedicated audio servicing.
I understand the battery life in the M11 Plus is far better. I bought the FiiO due to the feature set.
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The M11 Plus LTD blows it away
ya and the M11 is actualy almost $200 cheaper
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yep i can hear and see the diff. Quite happy
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Updated this week to the new Firmware 1.0.6
The OTA, that popped up, did not work (Error Message: Firmware does not match device). Then I downloaded above firmware and everything went fine
The OTA, that popped up, did not work (Error Message: Firmware does not match device). Then I downloaded above firmware and everything went fine
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