FiiO X7 | DXD | DSD | 384K/64B | ESS9018+ Android | WiFi | Bluetooth | 4 AMP modules | Balanced Out |
Sep 29, 2016 at 10:11 AM Post #14,461 of 18,020
  Encouraging news, I rooted the X7 when I was messing around with V4. I guess I better figure out how to de root it?


you can do that through the app itself somewhere. the internet will tell you :)

But you can also just reset the whole device (just to be sure, if you have anything of value on the device, make a copy somewhere, and remove the external SD first)
 
Sep 29, 2016 at 12:55 PM Post #14,463 of 18,020
For all the little "bugs" that drive me nutz about the x7, the SQ sure is top notch. Really enjoy the sound this thing produces using the stock app and my Andromeda. 
 
Sep 29, 2016 at 1:26 PM Post #14,464 of 18,020
  For all the little "bugs" that drive me nutz about the x7, the SQ sure is top notch. Really enjoy the sound this thing produces using the stock app and my Andromeda. 

glad u are still keeping it, well when i had my cowon plenue s which sounds awesome, I found the fiio x7 as a stand alone dap was not that far, yes the x7 has bugs, but I easily sold the cowon plenue s and kept the fiio x 7 as the small difference between the 2 daps did not justify the huge price difference
 
so hang on and let them iron out all those bugs which is soon I assume
 
x7 is so versatile in what it can offer compared to any dap out there
 
after having super expensive daps ( ak380 and amp and cowon plenue s ) I can tell you all the fiio x7 is really not far behind, and I made a decision to never buy any dap that exceeds 800 usd as the fiio x7 at that price nails it amazingly in every aspect unlike the expensive ones where something is missing or to be desired like lack of wifi and bluetooth, or having ability to use 3rd party apps
 
We are talking about android dap that sounds amazing and at an amazing price
 
for iems its amazing as a stand alone dap, want more power add an amp, want to change to another dac for the fun of it hook it to the mojo, want a big stack hook the X7 to mojo and an amp
 
Sep 29, 2016 at 2:06 PM Post #14,465 of 18,020
a question which is not that of an issue its just for me to understand a thing or two
 
so sometimes I am stacking my fiio x7 with mojo with dyson coax, now with stock music player in fiio x7 i can see that files that are 24/192 the light indicator is blue but when i play the same file using neutron the light is red
 
any thoughts on this 
 
my analysis is that with neutron the files are not getting the same access or processing of the fiio dac as when compared to the stock player
 
Sep 29, 2016 at 3:25 PM Post #14,466 of 18,020
  a question which is not that of an issue its just for me to understand a thing or two
 
so sometimes I am stacking my fiio x7 with mojo with dyson coax, now with stock music player in fiio x7 i can see that files that are 24/192 the light indicator is blue but when i play the same file using neutron the light is red
 
any thoughts on this 
 
my analysis is that with neutron the files are not getting the same access or processing of the fiio dac as when compared to the stock player


this is correct. the FiiO app was build with a driver for this specific DAC chip, which goes around androids limitations.

The difference you will most likely not notice with most of the tracks that you have, unless you really do have goldenears, and a very good set of headphones.

what exactly does blue and red mean? (bitrate/stuff?)
 
Sep 29, 2016 at 3:46 PM Post #14,467 of 18,020
 
this is correct. the FiiO app was build with a driver for this specific DAC chip, which goes around androids limitations.

The difference you will most likely not notice with most of the tracks that you have, unless you really do have goldenears, and a very good set of headphones.

what exactly does blue and red mean? (bitrate/stuff?)

yeah means bitrates
 
i thought all 3rd party apps have the same access to the dac
 
its not that important but good to know
 
Sep 29, 2016 at 3:52 PM Post #14,468 of 18,020
  yeah means bitrates
 
i thought all 3rd party apps have the same access to the dac
 
its not that important but good to know

I don't want to talk too much about stuff I don't know much about, however, I do believe it could be possible under the following circumstances:

1: the application must be made to use a custom driver (something that only the app developers can do, unless the app itself is opensource)
2: a driver for this DAC must be made available to the public (without a doubt, FiiO has a contract with HiBy, so they can not do it. and for HiBy to make it opensource would mean that they have more competition)

Unless this civilisation learns to share, it will probably not happen.

I really hope the FiiO app will be improved upon, for those who can hear a difference :)
 
Sep 29, 2016 at 8:15 PM Post #14,469 of 18,020
A big thank you to FiiO for allowing me to participate in the tour and try out the amp modules. I am so glad I signed up because it has really changed my opinion of the X7 and has really invigorated my love for the DAP. Here are some brief impressions after trying them all out.
 

 
Brief Initial Impressions
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AM2 Amplifier Module 
  1. Warmer and Somewhat Darker sound
  2. Not as detailed, smoother sounding 
  3. Treble feels less extended, not as airy or neutral sounding (which affects the soundstage a bit)
  4. Thicker midrange that is also quite lush, treble takes a bit of a back seat
  5. Stronger mid bass - almost an L shaped presentation, bass has more body and definition and not bloomy 
  6. Perfect pairing for Brighter gears
  7. Not an improvement on AM1 but rather a different flavour
 
 
 
 
AM3 Amplifier Module (SE , Balanced to be tested later) aka what the AM1 should have been 
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  1. Linear and more detailed with beautifully extended treble 
  2. Holographic and large soundstage that also sounds effortless and natural  - thanks in part to how jaw droppingly good the treble is
  3. More detailed and musical at the same time, everything sounds more alive and dynamic (not to be confused with forward treble)
  4. Detailed and engaging midrange that is also thick with detail and emotion and ambience - perfectly balanced with the rest of the range
  5. Tighter bass with improved resolution and texture (really noticeable with wind instrument pieces and standing basses)
  6. The entire frequency range is immaculately balanced and if you could have only one module IMO this is the one to get. 
  7. Sounds great with ALL gears and all genres; it sounds so good that I really had to force myself to take off the AM3 to try the others and after testing the others thoroughly I promptly went back to listening to the AM3
  8. An improvement over the AM1 in every possible way except battery life
  9. I havent had a chance to test out the balanced output yet
 
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AM5 Amplifier Module aka having a car battery in your pocket
  1. Most powerful of the bunch, quite a bit of driving power even on low volume, relatively speaking 
  2. Slight warmer sounding than AM1 but not as warm sounding as the AM2 - strikes a fine balance
  3. Retains the detailed and dynamic sound signature of the AM1 while smoothing out the treble a smidge
  4. Still sounding detailed and energetic (just not as energetic as AM1), everything sounds more alive and dynamic 
  5. Higher resolution than Am1 - so better separation layering and positioning 
  6. Treble feels a tad softer but still beautifully detailed and sparkly - well done imo
  7. Unlike the AM2, the AM5 soundstage doesn't take a hit compared to the AM1, the soundstage is once again holographic and large while one again sounding effortless and natural 
  8. Detailed and engaging midrange thick with detail, emotion and ambience (a more lush AM3)
  9. Bass has more quality and quantity - bass is more forward and separated from the mix - easier to delineate
  10. Bass sounds more detailed with greater impact and slam - VERY tastefully done that doesn't ruin tonal balance
  11. Again sounds great with ALL gears and all genres - makes my HD600 sing!
  12. This module easily powered my HD600 while I worked around the house the last few evenings - 'nuff said 
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  13. In summary the AM5 module has all the things that made the AM3 special (just not as airy sounding) but with better bass, a sweeter midrange and more power 
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These impressions are all based on comparisons against the AM1 only unless otherwise stated
 

 
I am legitimately blown away how much better the X7 sounds better with the other amp modules as compared with the AM1. While I have always enjoyed using my X7, I never really loved it, that is until I listened with the AM3. The AM3 SE output is what the AM1 should have been, something truly special that has me staying up late nights listening. 
 
In fact I have purchased more music over the last few days than I have over the last few years (I am mainly a Spotify user) to listen with the X7 + AM3 combo. Yah, its that good. The X7 is officially a TOTL DAP in my eyes and for all the people who has only heard the X7 + AM1 combo, PLEASE do yourselves a favour and give it another try with either the AM3 or AM5 (or even AM2 if you found the AM1 too lean).
 
If anyone was curious, my preferred set ups at the moment:
  1. FiiO X7 + AM3 (SE Output) ==> Sennheiser HD380 - this combo has me losing a lot of sleep but man does it sound so good!  
  2. FiiO X7 + AM5 ==> Sennheiser HD600 & Beyerdynamic DT150 (Still a great sounding pair, best for when I am sitting down working)
 
If anyone has any questions please don't hesitate to ask, I will try my best to answer them.
 
 
Here are some pictures that I stole borrowed from the FiiO site that explain the modules in detail
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
Happy listening!  
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Sep 30, 2016 at 2:36 PM Post #14,474 of 18,020
I definitely have no idea, it might just be a matter of batch production or maybe the sales of AM2A aren't going so well. Or the total opposite, it's selling so fast they can't cope with the demand.
Only FiiO knows!
 
Sep 30, 2016 at 3:00 PM Post #14,475 of 18,020
I definitely have no idea, it might just be a matter of batch production or maybe the sales of AM2A aren't going so well. Or the total opposite, it's selling so fast they can't cope with the demand.
Only FiiO knows!

They have commented that their production size does not allow for continuous production of all the amp modules. 
 
If the am2a is warmer than the am3 I would love to get my hands on one.....Fiio??....
 

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