[FiiO Q5s Type C ‖ Q5s] Bluetooth DSD-capable Amplifier,AK4493x2,768k/32bit
Nov 26, 2019 at 2:45 AM Post #2,206 of 3,226
Dear friend,

You could try this FiiO Control app instead if you are using Android mobile phone: http://fiio-file.fiio.net/Apps/FiiO Control1.0.apk

Best regards

@FiiO

Can you please ask the developer to release a new version of "FiiO Control" app with the correct captions as they are in latest version of "FiiO Music" app, and post it on Google Play store for easier re-install, etc.
"Open/Closed" needs to be changed to "ON/OFF" and "Until device" to "Until device restarts"
Thanks!
 
Nov 26, 2019 at 8:21 AM Post #2,208 of 3,226
Also, it's been hard to keep up with FiiOs innovation. First bought the BTR1, then the BTR3, and now the BTR5 (havent purchased). Then I bought the Q1 MK2, then the Q5 came out and I bought that. Now the Q5s comes out and I would like to purchase one, but it's hard to know if the next best thing is coming out in another month. I guess it's a good problem, but now I have older models and empty pockets...
 
Nov 26, 2019 at 8:33 AM Post #2,209 of 3,226
Also, it's been hard to keep up with FiiOs innovation. First bought the BTR1, then the BTR3, and now the BTR5 (havent purchased). Then I bought the Q1 MK2, then the Q5 came out and I bought that. Now the Q5s comes out and I would like to purchase one, but it's hard to know if the next best thing is coming out in another month. I guess it's a good problem, but now I have older models and empty pockets...
Get somthing and forget about the rest. Its the same whit the daps m11 m11pro and m15 already leaked
 
Nov 26, 2019 at 8:35 AM Post #2,210 of 3,226
Would the AM3D be better than the AM3E for HD650s, considering the loss of power and open back design?
I dont dont think it would be better the 650 are hard to drive
 
Nov 26, 2019 at 9:42 AM Post #2,213 of 3,226
I dont dont think it would be better the 650 are hard to drive
@tyota
No. This information is incorrect. The HD 650 reach ~99dB @ 1mW. This means to reach 115dB (rock concert levels of loudness), they require only slightly more than 32mW. To reach a more reasonable (but still loud) 90dB, they require 0.125mW.

I have no idea what sort of power the FiiO modules can deliver into a specific load, but the notion that the HD 650 is difficult to drive is tired and wrong. My Samsung S9 can easily drive my HD 650 to uncomfortable levels and still sound decent.

EDIT: from the 3.5mm single-ended output, the AM3D can do 30mW into 300 Ohms; from the balanced outputs, it can deliver twice that. That means, unless you're listening at extremely loud levels, the AM3D will have more than enough power even from SE output; in balanced mode it'll go beyond uncomfortable.
Keep in mind, though, that the HD 650's impedance is actually closer to 500 Ohms at 100Hz, so if you like to listen really loud, you might run into clipping in the bass.
 
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Nov 26, 2019 at 11:39 AM Post #2,215 of 3,226
@tyota
No. This information is incorrect. The HD 650 reach ~99dB @ 1mW. This means to reach 115dB (rock concert levels of loudness), they require only slightly more than 32mW. To reach a more reasonable (but still loud) 90dB, they require 0.125mW.

I have no idea what sort of power the FiiO modules can deliver into a specific load, but the notion that the HD 650 is difficult to drive is tired and wrong. My Samsung S9 can easily drive my HD 650 to uncomfortable levels and still sound decent.

EDIT: from the 3.5mm single-ended output, the AM3D can do 30mW into 300 Ohms; from the balanced outputs, it can deliver twice that. That means, unless you're listening at extremely loud levels, the AM3D will have more than enough power even from SE output; in balanced mode it'll go beyond uncomfortable.
Keep in mind, though, that the HD 650's impedance is actually closer to 500 Ohms at 100Hz, so if you like to listen really loud, you might run into clipping in the bass.

Actually it cant drive my dt 770 250 ohm in se. And the hd650 arent far away from them

And actually put out

≥ 15mW (300Ω/THD+N<1%)

On single ended not 30 like you mentioned
 
Nov 26, 2019 at 2:44 PM Post #2,217 of 3,226
Actually it cant drive my dt 770 250 ohm in se. And the hd650 arent far away from them

And actually put out

≥ 15mW (300Ω/THD+N<1%)

On single ended not 30 like you mentioned
You're right, it's 15mW. I don't know where I got 30mW from. Even so, that'll get the HD 650 to almost 110dB.

The DT 770 250 Ohm version is 96dB @ 1mW, which means it requires twice as much power to reach the same sound pressure level.
 
Nov 27, 2019 at 12:49 AM Post #2,219 of 3,226
Looking forward to the Q5s with the AM3D module showing up, for sale, on Amazon Canada.

Will this work well with Sennheiser HD 6XX? I would like to use a balanced cable (4.4mm?). Does anyone know where to find a good one for the HD 6XX?
 

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