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FiiO M11-Android 7.0, 2.5/3.5/4.4 Powerful Output, Exynos 7872, Dual AK4493 DAC chips, 3GB RAM, WiFi, Two-way LDAC

Discussion in 'Portable Source Gear' started by FiiO, Mar 19, 2019.
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  1. nlowran
    i only hear hiss on the u12t's when i upscale to dsd
     
  2. fatmanny
    Ya I got a copper 4.4mm off AliExpress. It's been unreal so far. My only complaint is it's a little too short, but that's my fault for not checking length
     
  3. gLer
    i guess it depends what you call dead silent. I’m probably too deaf to notice :p
     
  4. psikey
    Agree. I did some more testing last night and think the M11 just reveals any track/recording hiss more. Some tracks are total black so not just down to amp. Its very minor anyway.
     
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  5. gLer
    So what you're saying is the hiss is in the recording? That’s a different issue altogether and speaks to poor mastering, not noise floor. I call it ‘tape hiss’ - not sure if that’s the right term. Has nothing to do with the M11 - on certain albums and tracks it’s quite evident on my black as night desktop system as well. Try Meiko’s ‘Playing Favorites’ or several tracks by Case/Lang/Veirs. This is not the same hiss I thought you were talking about with no music playing (not the silence between tracks). To that end, like I said, either I’m deaf or some of you are really, really sensitive to hiss. Like superhuman hearing sensitive.

    Seriously irritates me when I read statements like ‘significantly less’ and ‘night and day’ when we’re talking about something that’s barely audible even in the most extreme conditions. What are you guys listening with, oscilloscopes!?
     
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  6. majo123
    Yep this is I think my findings, it is decieving at first as when it happens its quite noticeable but as soon as I put on a well known mastered recording it's fine, ink black background
     
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  7. gLer
    The question we should be asking is how other companies can and have been getting away with charging what they do for their so-called ‘high end’ daps? I think it’s great that FiiO have set the cat among the pigeons with the M11.
     
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  8. majo123
    It is indeed the new overall benchmark for me, yes of course there are better sounding daps but functionality is second to none and the audio is way above it's price point.
     
  9. gLer
    This sounds to me like recorded hiss, not hardware hiss. If that’s the case and you’re not hearing it with other daps, it just means the M11/IEM combo you’re using is more resolving in the ‘hiss’ frequencies. This has nothing to do with noise floor, which is noise when no tracks are queued or playing.
     
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  10. gLer
    That’s the crux here - it’s track hiss/tape hiss. Nothing to do with the M11. If anything it means the M11 is more resolving than other daps. Same way the HD800 and a good amp are unforgiving of poor recordings. I’m sure there are other daps and many IEMs tuned to smooth over poor recordings with their warmer sound.
     
  11. chaksat
    Hilarious
     
  12. JamesFiiO Contributor
    To get enough power output , the gain is a little high and the hiss from balanced is a little higher than 3.5 single end. it is normal .
     
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  13. gazzington
    I think this may have trashed so many higher end daps. Yes the dx220 and n6ii are probably a bit better. But for double the price. Not worth it. Get this and some moondrop Kanas pro and your set.

    It's made me rethink the hobby. Prices have risen to much. I'm going back to what I enjoyed in the beginning. Low prices that punch high

    Thanks Fiio. I started with x5iii and I've spent thousands since. Sod that now
     
  14. Isloo
    Very true. It is no longer necesaary to spend thousands to get excellent sound quality.
     
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  15. majo123
    Agreed.. or this and some s6 rui IMG_20190608_095956.jpg
     
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2019
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